The Syndicate

I've never played with you before.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:04 pm I've never played with you before.

On the topic of people deliberately refusing to play D1, I find it lame and against the spirit of the game. Also agree with what JJJ said, with an addition of 'I would've done that as a villager' being another common addition to that one.

Ur face is lame

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:11 pm Ur face is lame

Still think Sparkles is a wolf and the catchup did not inspire me to change my read.

If I'm wrong, I'll figure it out tomorrow, if I'm right, I'll try find the other wolf tomorrow.

glgl.

I'm not really deliberately not playing rn, just have no wolf reads I care about. I'd defend Alison if she gets more votes though or someone else

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:43 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Gonna follow my strongest townread. Im gonna iso Alison next i think.

Please do.

Where's your head at, Jay?

Going to bed, plz don't nightkill me mafia

Do I need to wake up early for eod

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:58 pm Where's your head at, Jay?

For the moment I remain at this for a POE-of-five solve, in no particular order:

outed wolf
Esooa
lucy
Nanook
Sparkles

I am not moved from a Sparkles vote to this point, and would call her my truest suspicion. The rest are in a more blasé horde without significant town indicators. The names outside this group have done something concrete that I can point to and say "that seems town". If there's one name not included in this set of five for whom I have the least confidence, it'd probably be falcon.

Mind talking about falcon, nanook, sabi?

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:16 pm

Mind talking about falcon, nanook, sabi?

I thought falcon handled Alison's aggression pretty well, and the progression of his hunt to this point appears authentic. The two may go hand-in-hand. For example, falcon spent some time poking around with some measure of suspicion of me (example, example). He also paid enough attention to my own reads (example) to engage with them and end up pursuing players in my poe (votes for both lucy and Sparkles). falcon seems to be using me as a sort of springboard to interpret the game, and I think that's on brand. I offer a caveat that with me at the center of this read, there is room for bias.

Sabi is a bit of a soul read. I just think they sound town. Their treatment of lucy and of the environment surrounding lucy is kind of hard for me to reconcile for a mafia Sabi unless the mafia team is exactly Sabi and lucy -- particularly when a tangential component of that lucy protection is to cast suspicion on Alison. When I ask myself "why" with mafia Sabi in mind, I don't really have a coherent answer.

Nanook's existence in this game so far has been predominantly restricted to following Wilgy around the poll. That's not "suspicious"; it's not really anything. Otherwise his own reads production has been quite limited. I'm not sure there's been much beyond calling me a wolf with Sabi for my initial town judgment of them, which is pretty meh. Generic POE.

Thoughts on potential partners for Sparkles?

Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:38 pm Thoughts on potential partners for Sparkles?

POE-minus-you would be the starting point. Should time permit I'll look into everyone.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 pm Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

Wolfy pop in

Weren't you asleep?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 pm Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

Show me yours

Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

Its like it was genetically engineered in a lab to make me yawn

I'm going to see a bad movie! I ought to be around briefly afterword, but I will almost certainly be sleeping when this deadline arrives. Bring me your questions and comments before then, squad.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 pm Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

Wolfy pop in

Weren't you asleep?

Coming back after saying you're asleep is a town tell so im told

And yeah in theory but I have insomnia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm I'm going to see a bad movie! I ought to be around briefly afterword, but I will almost certainly be sleeping when this deadline arrives. Bring me your questions and comments before then, squad.

What bad movie

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

Food for thought.

What is Sparkler's game plan voting Alison? If it's a lost cause vote, is the teammate bussing? Does W Sparkler think an Alison yeet actually happens and saves them?

I think I have like 30 posts left after this one for the rest of the game. So please digest and regurgitate. If there's more banter I'll try to keep it to big responses.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm I'm going to see a bad movie! I ought to be around briefly afterword, but I will almost certainly be sleeping when this deadline arrives. Bring me your questions and comments before then, squad.

What bad movie

I forget the title, but the poster had someone who looks like Aubrey Plaza

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm Food for thought.

What is Sparkler's game plan voting Alison? If it's a lost cause vote, is the teammate bussing? Does W Sparkler think an Alison yeet actually happens and saves them?

I think I have like 30 posts left after this one for the rest of the game. So please digest and regurgitate. If there's more banter I'll try to keep it to big responses.

For the rest of the day lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm I'm going to see a bad movie! I ought to be around briefly afterword, but I will almost certainly be sleeping when this deadline arrives. Bring me your questions and comments before then, squad.

What bad movie

I forget the title, but the poster had someone who looks like Aubrey Plaza

Bodies bodies bodies?

It's mafia the party game the movie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm I'm going to see a bad movie! I ought to be around briefly afterword, but I will almost certainly be sleeping when this deadline arrives. Bring me your questions and comments before then, squad.

What bad movie

I forget the title, but the poster had someone who looks like Aubrey Plaza

Spin me round or Emily the criminal?

Inquiring minds must know

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

Picking someone to sheep in a game im.not taking particularly seriously is entirely on brand for me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 pm Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

Wolfy pop in

Weren't you asleep?

Coming back after saying you're asleep is a town tell so im told

And yeah in theory but I have insomnia

Do you disagree with jjj read on you

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:52 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:44 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:40 pm Thats the most boring reads list you could possibly have

Wolfy pop in

Weren't you asleep?

Coming back after saying you're asleep is a town tell so im told

And yeah in theory but I have insomnia

Do you disagree with jjj read on you

Almost always, so I'm gonna say yes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

Picking someone to sheep in a game im.not taking particularly seriously is entirely on brand for me

Seeing as Wilgz has a rep for being a slacker, how are you so sure his reads are good? Why Wilgz?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

Picking someone to sheep in a game im.not taking particularly seriously is entirely on brand for me

Seeing as Wilgz has a rep for being a slacker, how are you so sure his reads are good? Why Wilgz?

He usually has decent reads actually, ime

And he came out of the gate so strong, I thought it would be kinda fitting and funny if I made him the person I sheep early, so I did. And, as I said above, he usually has good enough reads

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:56 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

Picking someone to sheep in a game im.not taking particularly seriously is entirely on brand for me

Seeing as Wilgz has a rep for being a slacker, how are you so sure his reads are good? Why Wilgz?

He usually has decent reads actually, ime

And he came out of the gate so strong, I thought it would be kinda fitting and funny if I made him the person I sheep early, so I did. And, as I said above, he usually has good enough reads

Fair enough.

Why do you think he's voting for outted wolf and do you agree with his read on him?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:56 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:54 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:43 pm Jjj would you be open to voting Nook since we are wolf partners and I'm too lazy to open discord

I'm open. While I'm viewing a feature film at my local movie theater, you should tell me why that's the move.

He's being more difficult than usual and idk he's giving me agenda driving vibes. His weird approach to following Wilgz. Idk doesn't seem like him

Picking someone to sheep in a game im.not taking particularly seriously is entirely on brand for me

Seeing as Wilgz has a rep for being a slacker, how are you so sure his reads are good? Why Wilgz?

He usually has decent reads actually, ime

And he came out of the gate so strong, I thought it would be kinda fitting and funny if I made him the person I sheep early, so I did. And, as I said above, he usually has good enough reads

Fair enough.

Why do you think he's voting for outted wolf and do you agree with his read on him?

Good reasons presumably

Not particularly but only 2 or 3 of my reads are actually confident

And yall said lucy was difficult

I'm just here to memeze

Falcon esooa and wilgy are all obvious town

I need I guess 3 more but for a game I'm determined to just meme around in thats a good start

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 pm Food for thought.

What is Sparkler's game plan voting Alison? If it's a lost cause vote, is the teammate bussing? Does W Sparkler think an Alison yeet actually happens and saves them?

I think I have like 30 posts left after this one for the rest of the game. So please digest and regurgitate. If there's more banter I'll try to keep it to big responses.

Dunno. Probably doing what seemed the logical option from their POV.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:57 pm That lucy post Marmot referenced from Halvosen ridge is a copypasta. illario posted that in champs game 7.

I don’t know that this means much, but it seems important to clarify. Lucy herself didn’t clarify this unless I missed it, so that’s confusing.

She didn't correct it, despite responding it in the post previous to this one from you.

I'm surprised she acknowledged it as a contradiction, as opposed to correcting the point I made.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:05 pm I've been working at lowering my investment levels in games to a healthier level. I definitely understand not finding anything I've done to be alignment indicative, but I think my push target is clearly reasonable (or at least I see noone saying that the target is wrong or the reasoning is poor).

Also just been pretty busy this day phase and didn't feel a need to do a huge amount of solving when people already agreed with my push independently of me.

I'm relived you're being not AI in a small amount of posts at least

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:37 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:30 pm How is Nook from an insulated community when he has played on numerous forums through out the many years?

How is this topic really helping, or anything involving lucy while i was asleep?

I dont agree with lucys play and her defense spanning pages on principle and it was a distraction for the most part, although considering i wasnt here to respond too points against me and hunt i feel like most of you wouldève stayed stagnant so its wtv, i dont think lucy puts this much attention on herself and is this contrarian as mafia i do not know them as a player and i think DrW or Sabi said they get easier to read and play like they should on D2,im willing togive thema chance to prove that but still meh on their play on principle.

thats basically my thoughts on lucy cause there is nothing else i can really use to read them.

My interpretation of how lucy has played today is that she's attempting to be steadfast about not giving reads, but will talk about anything else, and is otherwise open to discussion, which at surface level isn't really townie, but also not a player I'd want to kill today.

If she's town, mafia should just kill her N1 anyway just to spite her meta

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:40 pm Feeling a teeny bit lost because I'm the only one sus on alison

But like I was also alone in sussing dizzy.

So like I'm going to trust my gut on this while yall get pocketed by her

I did have sus there, but I've lost motivation on that one, partially because Alison reminded me the thing I pointed out is not really AI for her.

Sparkles made the same defense.


I guess nobody does anything AI anymore.

Marmy lets have a chat. im not flipping mafia and people arent budging on me. this might be our last dance.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:44 pm I liked the way Alison started the game, it got this game firing on all cylinders, so I gave her town points. What Ive seen since has got me paused on her alignment and I think its enough to retract my town lean.

Marmy said he viewed Alison making a lot of distractions as her mafia meta correct? Cause ive been seeing a lot of that especially re: points on lucy and other stuff regarding other players that I felt didnt make much sense.Her vote has been flailing around a lot and shes been awfully accusy towards others but with her constant vote switch i fail to see much bite in any of her accusations. so it feels rather fake fam. more like being the center of a town that will eat itself apart when the concensus target flips town aka me.

so mindmelding with sabi.

I don't think I said that in particular, or maybe that's just summing up what I said, sorta. Or maybe it was. I guess what I accused Alison of doing was straw-personing Wilgy's argument, where he talked about her playing with a lot of ego, and rather than explaining how it wasn't using ego, instead told Wilgy he doesn't know what ego is.

Vote flailing is fine imo. Votes are a decent way to broadcast a read/pressure, and aren't necessarily going to be permanent/stagnant (looking at your Vernon).


Regardless, she's still on my mind. she pushed lucy I believe a lot more than anyone else did. I don't find that surprising from Alison, but I do have a concern it was an attempt to make lucy "AI" or potentially "scummy-looking". I don't feel strongly about that argument though. V!Alison would want everyone to be perfect pro-town decisions.

Im pretty sure you said something along those lines yes,let me dig it up

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:37 pm

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:23 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:16 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:13 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:11 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:01 pm Why outted wolf wilgz

'This ain't it chief' re Falcon generally indicates a thinking of 'you're wrong'

'you're wrong' means Falcon is town.

OW wants to yeet Falcon, who they've stated is wrong.

And yes, I know this is light, but that's like 1/4th of their posts.

Now that is reading the tea leaves lol. Yes I think that push is wrong (and also Wolfy in its wrongness).

Gibe me more to work with then. I did give opportunity to expand on this previously when I quoted you earlier, but I never got a response.

What do you think on our cast as a whole?
You have Me, Sparkles, and Falcon as Ws.

Do me and Falcon being on Sparkles impact that read at all?

I gathered from the ways others talked about your posting this game you a probably just a villager (and seem fine enough for me D1 anyway). Your vote on Sparkles is nice.

Falcon being on sparkles.... never got the impression that sparkles was his first choice.

The rest I'll talk about later.

Alright? Who'd you think Falcon would be sussing then otherwise?

Why later? Can't even have quick thoughts or claims?

Cause I didn't feel like talking about others at the time.

I haven't thought about who Falcon would be sussing otherwise (though I believe it would be lucy, given their push there earlier). I just didn't like his push onto lucy and his switch over to Sparkles felt like a wolf rolling late onto a bus. Very likely biased from my initial read and plenty of people have said he is a villager, so I'm prepared to let that one go.

Alison has been doing Alison things, don't really care for her overjustification and push for policy kills, but she seems fine enough for D1.

Esooa no read, lucy, no read. JJJ seems fine enough for D1. Sabi, found her entry slightly wolfy, awkwardly filling in silence. Other people have expressed a townread on her, so I figure I can also leave that for today.

Nanook, could be a wolf, sure. Marmot, seemed fine enough for D1.

Oh I never said I wolfread you either? I village read you, lol.

I am fine, thank you for asking

I don't have any opinion on your alignment yet tbh