Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]
Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:42 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I'm not going to unvote my top scum just because santygrass appealed to authority. Also I haven't read a single post of yours aside from this one so why would I even have a read on you yet much less a townread?santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:55 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do you have any reads rn? Are you willing to sheep me?
@MacDougall your vote on Neon is peepeepoopoo . Neon is town. If you dont think that me/Neon are both mafia, then get your vote off there cuz rn Neon is my most confident townread
Why then?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:47 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
not because you asked me to lol
Because Porscha is fairly easy to read and has not come close to reaching anything resembling her town play in this game as yet.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:51 pmWhy then?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:47 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
not because you asked me to lol
Can you discuss why you think my vote on Lily is not good and why you tr Lily then? It seems like @santygrass believed that Lily was town as well and I am confused with that assessment based on her current ISO.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:05 pm @arogame123
Can you post a wolf game for me? I don't necessarily agree with their read based on the reaction test, but personally I'm not a fan of the Lily vote. And if u can play like this regardless of your alignment it becomes a bit harder for me to sit on looking somewhat decent right now
What's ur opinion of rondo, and yes I'm probably gunna keep asking people this question.
I agree that if Santy is mafia, he spewed SPF as town because he clearly did not understand/read the posts I was making in regards to Ilario/SPF.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:55 pm Cursory skim of Santy's ISO makes me think he's a wolf that's spewed Neon and SPF town.
yeah i thought ilario was pretty towny when i was around in my second burst (when I dropped the neon scumread)arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:02 pm @MacDougall I feel that Ilario's recent posting is townie. I'd like your thoughts as well because I know you felt he was mafia earlier in the day.
I just think Santy is probably mafia for having confidence well beyond levels he should have on both of these players (especially SPF). His treatment reeks of TMI shielding town from other town. Santy is a compulsive townsiding wolf too based on my experience wolfing with them. If a wolf teammate is under pressure from town players Santy is afraid of he will usually pocket that town by helping them kill his teammate.santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:21 pm @Alison why do you trust Mac so much? I think Neon is one of my most confident townreads atm, and I would very much prefer if you vote aro with me tbh .
@ilario I think spf is town, I am reading them as villa, and I read the aro/spf interaction like W!aro fanning the flames and trying to make a distance between you and spf. (like the partnery tinfoil just seemed extremely fake to me). I might be confbiased on that read, but I feel good about spf being town, and you too. Would appreciate it if you try to work together for this phase at least tbhtbh
I thought his entrance was against his town meta but I have townread his later posting. I think he is a townlean overall. I am not too worried about Seanzie and think if he is mafia his lack of a town spark will show eventually.
Sure, that makes sense.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:08 pm @Alison do you agree that if Aro is town that it's likely to mean SPF and Tilgarial contains a mafia and vice versa due to the Lilypetal wagon? I feel like it contains one wolf in either world where Lily is wolf or town, right now. Drastically so if town.
If you couple the fact that Santy is likely spewing SPF town then it probably means a difference check between Tilgarial and Arogame.
For now I'm focusing on the rondo part, I mean if u have a rondo town or wolf game I'm happy to read it alongside a wolf game from you. I tried to understand Mac's read of Rondo, but I guess I came off to dismissive. I don't know everyone off the top of my head that has Rondo as town, I don't think rondo town is something that wolf Mac spews, I think? It would be more likely that they are together since I still don't really see the argument for why his posts are townie.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:59 pmCan you discuss why you think my vote on Lily is not good and why you tr Lily then? It seems like @santygrass believed that Lily was town as well and I am confused with that assessment based on her current ISO.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:05 pm @arogame123
Can you post a wolf game for me? I don't necessarily agree with their read based on the reaction test, but personally I'm not a fan of the Lily vote. And if u can play like this regardless of your alignment it becomes a bit harder for me to sit on looking somewhat decent right now
What's ur opinion of rondo, and yes I'm probably gunna keep asking people this question.
And if you want a mafia game from me, here is one on this site: viewtopic.php?t=2423.
I mean I agree with you that their read on me of it "being performative" is not good/incorrect, but idk what that means for Alison's alignment.
My opinion of Rondo is that he has done/made some similar "trolly" and "inquisitive" posts that he made when he was town in the game I linked you above. I have him as a null-townie and more so a bit of sheeping Mac's read on Rondo. I do remember Rondo making that same remark towards Mac in our previous game so I can empathize with why Mac tr it and why you wouldn't. From experience with Rondo like how you have experience with me, I see some of his posting here similar to that in my last game with him where he was town.
Also, if you think Rondo is mafia, what do you think of people continually tr him? Do you think it's mafia attempting to defend a partner or mafia spewing someone as town?
in catch up btw so i'm quite far behidn butSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:49 amI'd recommend just checking if I have a pelt on D3 or not. If I do, you'll likely be able to tell it wasn't a bus, and so I'll be soft-cleared.
I have seen no evidence that Seanzie cares at all how people read him which I think is a towntell for him. Enough pressure was generated on other slots that I don't think Seanzie would feel caught.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:16 pm @Alison is Seanzie leaning into a slank-on-purpose playstyle here because he was caught on page 1 and it retroactively justifies his listless reaction to something town Seanzie should have bit at?
Or did he have that reaction in the first place because he's being slank on purpose?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:17 pm The other slot I feel like saying something about is Belzy. Given they have zero votes I think everyone probably townreads them right? I felt like they were quite billboard town.
YesAlison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:23 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:17 pm The other slot I feel like saying something about is Belzy. Given they have zero votes I think everyone probably townreads them right? I felt like they were quite billboard town.
I mean if Lily is town, she will town it up later in the game and it will be prevalent, but aorn, I am not inspired and it's a mix of a sheep from SPF because I agreed with the read. Having been mafia with Lily recently, I feel that I am able to read her pretty well, so my read will develop as the day goes on and as she posts more, I can form a better one, but rn, it's null-scummy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pm Aro it's a little bit ... underwhelming ... that you've been like the centrepiece of this entire game and you are voting the 5 poster who hasn't really done anything alignment indicative?
That's not to say I townread Lilypetal's 5 posts. I think they are null and Lily is a wolf lean for having not posted more, but I'm not of the view Lily is generally post count polarised so I am not sure I should be wolf leaning Lily for that.
If Lily does in fact turn out to be town, I would suspect that there is a mafia inside you, SPF and Tilgarial. Would you agree with that take?
Belzy is fine for now. I want to see how their read on Wisp develops.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:17 pm The other slot I feel like saying something about is Belzy. Given they have zero votes I think everyone probably townreads them right? I felt like they were quite billboard town.
Maybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
I wasn't really calling you generally underwhelming. I was specifically calling you underwhelming for being the top poster ergo theoretically the de facto leader and you're choosing to vote the 5 poster who you say yourself will town it up later in the game. If you think Lily will become easier to read later are you voting for her right now simply to try to pacify SPF's read towards you?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:24 pmI mean if Lily is town, she will town it up later in the game and it will be prevalent, but aorn, I am not inspired and it's a mix of a sheep from SPF because I agreed with the read. Having been mafia with Lily recently, I feel that I am able to read her pretty well, so my read will develop as the day goes on and as she posts more, I can form a better one, but rn, it's null-scummy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pm Aro it's a little bit ... underwhelming ... that you've been like the centrepiece of this entire game and you are voting the 5 poster who hasn't really done anything alignment indicative?
That's not to say I townread Lilypetal's 5 posts. I think they are null and Lily is a wolf lean for having not posted more, but I'm not of the view Lily is generally post count polarised so I am not sure I should be wolf leaning Lily for that.
If Lily does in fact turn out to be town, I would suspect that there is a mafia inside you, SPF and Tilgarial. Would you agree with that take?
And to your question, I think it's a fair take to think that and I would lean Tilg as scummier over SPF if that's the case.
Also, it's funny, because I do agree with u that I have been underwhelming this game and I was thinking about it and why. And I think it's mainly because I haven't really found my place in the game yet and I'm sorting a lot of people and don't have any strong scum reads yet tbh. Like I am a town hunter but I usually have some scum reads I can rep somewhat strongly. I think there are a lot of different players here that I have played with and have experience, but meshing it all together might take some time for me and I realize that's why this game is a bit weirder for me than usual.
But I do have some decent confidence in the towns I listed earlier and will feel better about this game as it progresses.
Meh I'd add Neon too but I think Santy is mafia and I think him shielding her is because of TMI.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pmMaybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
Well the mafia game I linked you has a town!Rondo so I am sure you can better empathize with how some of us feel (SPF, Mac, and I) that his posting here is similar to how he was posting there,Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:11 pmFor now I'm focusing on the rondo part, I mean if u have a rondo town or wolf game I'm happy to read it alongside a wolf game from you. I tried to understand Mac's read of Rondo, but I guess I came off to dismissive. I don't know everyone off the top of my head that has Rondo as town, I don't think rondo town is something that wolf Mac spews, I think? It would be more likely that they are together since I still don't really see the argument for why his posts are townie.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:59 pmCan you discuss why you think my vote on Lily is not good and why you tr Lily then? It seems like @santygrass believed that Lily was town as well and I am confused with that assessment based on her current ISO.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:05 pm @arogame123
Can you post a wolf game for me? I don't necessarily agree with their read based on the reaction test, but personally I'm not a fan of the Lily vote. And if u can play like this regardless of your alignment it becomes a bit harder for me to sit on looking somewhat decent right now
What's ur opinion of rondo, and yes I'm probably gunna keep asking people this question.
And if you want a mafia game from me, here is one on this site: viewtopic.php?t=2423.
I mean I agree with you that their read on me of it "being performative" is not good/incorrect, but idk what that means for Alison's alignment.
My opinion of Rondo is that he has done/made some similar "trolly" and "inquisitive" posts that he made when he was town in the game I linked you above. I have him as a null-townie and more so a bit of sheeping Mac's read on Rondo. I do remember Rondo making that same remark towards Mac in our previous game so I can empathize with why Mac tr it and why you wouldn't. From experience with Rondo like how you have experience with me, I see some of his posting here similar to that in my last game with him where he was town.
Also, if you think Rondo is mafia, what do you think of people continually tr him? Do you think it's mafia attempting to defend a partner or mafia spewing someone as town?
And in terms of u, again if this playstyle is inherently nai for you, I would need to look deeper into the context of your handling of SPF if I want a better read
And I'm under the impression you just steeped spa's read on lily
I am voting Lily because if she as town, she becomes more apparent under pressure and if she cracks, then she is mafia. It's also that I somewhat sheep SPF's read there as well. Not sure what you mean by pacifying SPF's read towards me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:27 pmI wasn't really calling you generally underwhelming. I was specifically calling you underwhelming for being the top poster ergo theoretically the de facto leader and you're choosing to vote the 5 poster who you say yourself will town it up later in the game. If you think Lily will become easier to read later are you voting for her right now simply to try to pacify SPF's read towards you?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:24 pmI mean if Lily is town, she will town it up later in the game and it will be prevalent, but aorn, I am not inspired and it's a mix of a sheep from SPF because I agreed with the read. Having been mafia with Lily recently, I feel that I am able to read her pretty well, so my read will develop as the day goes on and as she posts more, I can form a better one, but rn, it's null-scummy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pm Aro it's a little bit ... underwhelming ... that you've been like the centrepiece of this entire game and you are voting the 5 poster who hasn't really done anything alignment indicative?
That's not to say I townread Lilypetal's 5 posts. I think they are null and Lily is a wolf lean for having not posted more, but I'm not of the view Lily is generally post count polarised so I am not sure I should be wolf leaning Lily for that.
If Lily does in fact turn out to be town, I would suspect that there is a mafia inside you, SPF and Tilgarial. Would you agree with that take?
And to your question, I think it's a fair take to think that and I would lean Tilg as scummier over SPF if that's the case.
Also, it's funny, because I do agree with u that I have been underwhelming this game and I was thinking about it and why. And I think it's mainly because I haven't really found my place in the game yet and I'm sorting a lot of people and don't have any strong scum reads yet tbh. Like I am a town hunter but I usually have some scum reads I can rep somewhat strongly. I think there are a lot of different players here that I have played with and have experience, but meshing it all together might take some time for me and I realize that's why this game is a bit weirder for me than usual.
But I do have some decent confidence in the towns I listed earlier and will feel better about this game as it progresses.
If I pre-flip Santy as mafia, I don't really see where Santy "TMI'd Neon" as town. Santy as mafia has shielded town before and I don't think the manner he went about it was "TMI" indicative if he is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:28 pmMeh I'd add Neon too but I think Santy is mafia and I think him shielding her is because of TMI.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pmMaybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
Is this a wolf slip?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:31 pmIf I pre-flip Santy as mafia, I don't really see where Santy "TMI'd Neon" as town. Santy as mafia has shielded town before and I don't think the manner he went about it was "TMI" indicative if he is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:28 pmMeh I'd add Neon too but I think Santy is mafia and I think him shielding her is because of TMI.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pmMaybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
No, because I was working under the presumption of a Santy=mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:33 pmIs this a wolf slip?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:31 pmIf I pre-flip Santy as mafia, I don't really see where Santy "TMI'd Neon" as town. Santy as mafia has shielded town before and I don't think the manner he went about it was "TMI" indicative if he is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:28 pmMeh I'd add Neon too but I think Santy is mafia and I think him shielding her is because of TMI.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pmMaybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
Thoughts on Tilg?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:24 pmAnd to your question, I think it's a fair take to think that and I would lean Tilg as scummier over SPF if that's the case.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pm Aro it's a little bit ... underwhelming ... that you've been like the centrepiece of this entire game and you are voting the 5 poster who hasn't really done anything alignment indicative?
That's not to say I townread Lilypetal's 5 posts. I think they are null and Lily is a wolf lean for having not posted more, but I'm not of the view Lily is generally post count polarised so I am not sure I should be wolf leaning Lily for that.
If Lily does in fact turn out to be town, I would suspect that there is a mafia inside you, SPF and Tilgarial. Would you agree with that take?
Oh I just realized I typo’d, I meant has shielded mafia partner.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:33 pmIs this a wolf slip?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:31 pmIf I pre-flip Santy as mafia, I don't really see where Santy "TMI'd Neon" as town. Santy as mafia has shielded town before and I don't think the manner he went about it was "TMI" indicative if he is mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:28 pmMeh I'd add Neon too but I think Santy is mafia and I think him shielding her is because of TMI.arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pmMaybe not so much Ender but the other 3 are fine! I'd add Neon in as well tbh but that's just meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:25 pm Alrighty so
Arogame
Lily
Ender
Porscha
Santygrass
How we lookin for a POE?
Null-scum. Not too many there that I haven’t expressed already.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:36 pmThoughts on Tilg?arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:24 pmAnd to your question, I think it's a fair take to think that and I would lean Tilg as scummier over SPF if that's the case.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:03 pm Aro it's a little bit ... underwhelming ... that you've been like the centrepiece of this entire game and you are voting the 5 poster who hasn't really done anything alignment indicative?
That's not to say I townread Lilypetal's 5 posts. I think they are null and Lily is a wolf lean for having not posted more, but I'm not of the view Lily is generally post count polarised so I am not sure I should be wolf leaning Lily for that.
If Lily does in fact turn out to be town, I would suspect that there is a mafia inside you, SPF and Tilgarial. Would you agree with that take?
I don't know if I fully understand what you're asking, but this has always been a good way to find me. There are other good ways too, but I usually have a pelt pretty early as town, and if I don't, I'm either wolf or wrong town, so killing me isn't necessarily bad.Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:14 pmin catch up btw so i'm quite far behidn butSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:49 amI'd recommend just checking if I have a pelt on D3 or not. If I do, you'll likely be able to tell it wasn't a bus, and so I'll be soft-cleared.
since how is this the best way to read you
It was because I was caught on page 1.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:16 pm @Alison is Seanzie leaning into a slank-on-purpose playstyle here because he was caught on page 1 and it retroactively justifies his listless reaction to something town Seanzie should have bit at?
Or did he have that reaction in the first place because he's being slank on purpose?
You know I have one of the best wolf records on this site, right?Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:40 pm k I didn't finish catch up gotta go see my parents
I feel like sean is intentionally mixing up his playstyle so I fear this is his attempt to not be polarized but don't know if he's more likely to do this as wolf or town
neon/wisp not w/w
this is the first game ever I think i've seen neon make serious posts day 1. doesn't feel scummy but I was absolutely snowed recently by them wolfing so i'll give tl for now but i'm inclined to re-eval later