Re: The Late Bronze Age Collapse [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:28 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Yes I am mafia who faked claimed parity cop to live and went to kill the very people that pushed me hard on day 1 to look sus as fuck.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:30 pmPossible? Yes. Likely? That's harder to tell. I think Guillo is just outed at this point, and if I GTH I'd say you and Epi are probably fine. Epi's claim is just straight up weird if coming from scum - it was completely unnecessary, he was under no heat, his claim is the sort of "bad" that actually looks good, etc. My one issue with Epi is that if he is a disruptive role, it would be a good counter to my own role, but the way he's playing it is... well... If he is mafia here, his claim is working. I've already mentioned my tinfoil of you, but I don't feel the need to chase that with bigger fish out there. I'm noting this though for if Guillo flips wolf.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 pmThat's kind of why I was wondering. 4 claims with 2 being unconformable felt a bit weird. Do you think it's possible 2 Mafia are claiming a Power Role right now?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:07 pmMost heists I've played have been 2 town PRs with 1 mafia PR, and usually are 13ers or bigger. I know the site recently relaxed the heist standards, so I'm not sure what to expect, but even 4 PRs in a 10er feels weird. Regardless, I'mma vote for who I think is most likely mafia, claims considered.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:56 pm So here's a thought. There is 7 people alive, 4 of which are claiming a Power Role.
We could shoot into the 3 non-Power claims to try and kill a Mafia Goon (At least I highly doubt Mafia would get 2 Power Roles and there be only 2 Town-aligned Power Role). Although this does rely on at least 3 of the Power Role clams to be Town.
How likely does everyone think there would only be 3 Power Roles? Making it so 2 of the claims are real and 2 of the claims are Mafia Goon + Mafia Power Role?
If we do trust there is at least 3 Power Roles for Town in the setup there is statistically a stronger chance of killing a Mafia Goon in S~V~S, MR, and Falcon than shooting one of the Power Roles. It's not foolproof by any means, but an idea.
Linear is townLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:34 pmI mean if you are lying here the scenario would just be as follows.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:24 pmWhat reason do I have to lie, and what is my endgame scenario if I did?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:21 pm So the problem I'm having in my head is that it feels like one of Guillotine and Epignosis are lying. Setupwise both being true seems highly unlikely.
You fake claim (or maybe really are a Mafia Jailkeeper idk) with the intent to out a real Parity Cop.
Of course this is pretty much a 1 for 1 between you two so you'd be executed day 3 after Guillotine is outed.
Then we would just wind up in an endgame where it's 2 Town and 1 Mafia, that Mafia being whoever your partner is
There is certainly reason to do what you are doing as a wolf.
Of course there is the tinfoil world where you are wolf and Guillotine is your partner you are doing some big brain plays claiming a role that basically just mechanically CCs the mere existence of your partner's fake claim. In that case, I would say well done that's a good play I wouldn't have expected.
Ok this guy is mafia then because we all know that mafia cant target mafia here with a factional killEpignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:36 pmOr, I don't know. Crazy idea here. Wild ass crazy idea. I just kill Guillotine and nip that in the bud.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:34 pmI mean if you are lying here the scenario would just be as follows.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:24 pmWhat reason do I have to lie, and what is my endgame scenario if I did?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:21 pm So the problem I'm having in my head is that it feels like one of Guillotine and Epignosis are lying. Setupwise both being true seems highly unlikely.
You fake claim (or maybe really are a Mafia Jailkeeper idk) with the intent to out a real Parity Cop.
Of course this is pretty much a 1 for 1 between you two so you'd be executed day 3 after Guillotine is outed.
Then we would just wind up in an endgame where it's 2 Town and 1 Mafia, that Mafia being whoever your partner is
There is certainly reason to do what you are doing as a wolf.
Of course there is the tinfoil world where you are wolf and Guillotine is your partner you are doing some big brain plays claiming a role that basically just mechanically CCs the mere existence of your partner's fake claim. In that case, I would say well done that's a good play I wouldn't have expected.
Ok then he is legitLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:37 pmYeah the unpromptedness of the claim does lean credence towards Epi being the legit one of the two.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:30 pmPossible? Yes. Likely? That's harder to tell. I think Guillo is just outed at this point, and if I GTH I'd say you and Epi are probably fine. Epi's claim is just straight up weird if coming from scum - it was completely unnecessary, he was under no heat, his claim is the sort of "bad" that actually looks good, etc. My one issue with Epi is that if he is a disruptive role, it would be a good counter to my own role, but the way he's playing it is... well... If he is mafia here, his claim is working. I've already mentioned my tinfoil of you, but I don't feel the need to chase that with bigger fish out there. I'm noting this though for if Guillo flips wolf.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 pmThat's kind of why I was wondering. 4 claims with 2 being unconformable felt a bit weird. Do you think it's possible 2 Mafia are claiming a Power Role right now?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:07 pmMost heists I've played have been 2 town PRs with 1 mafia PR, and usually are 13ers or bigger. I know the site recently relaxed the heist standards, so I'm not sure what to expect, but even 4 PRs in a 10er feels weird. Regardless, I'mma vote for who I think is most likely mafia, claims considered.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:56 pm So here's a thought. There is 7 people alive, 4 of which are claiming a Power Role.
We could shoot into the 3 non-Power claims to try and kill a Mafia Goon (At least I highly doubt Mafia would get 2 Power Roles and there be only 2 Town-aligned Power Role). Although this does rely on at least 3 of the Power Role clams to be Town.
How likely does everyone think there would only be 3 Power Roles? Making it so 2 of the claims are real and 2 of the claims are Mafia Goon + Mafia Power Role?
If we do trust there is at least 3 Power Roles for Town in the setup there is statistically a stronger chance of killing a Mafia Goon in S~V~S, MR, and Falcon than shooting one of the Power Roles. It's not foolproof by any means, but an idea.
So you think Epignosis is Vanilla Town trying to bait a night kill by trying to go hard into tunneling the Cop claim? I don't see that world.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:24 amHe is obviously not jailkeeper, he is baiting the night kill.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:59 pm Whp would Guillotine's partner be if they were wolf? I was thinking it had to be Epignosis, but does anyone have meta on Epignosis to know if they tend to bus this hard day 2?
For what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
Plus this is a 10 player game, killing any PR is a priorityLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
If I was mafia vig, why wouldn't I believe your claim? If anything me being mafia vig would make me more likely to believe reasonably powerful PR claims.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:18 amIf this guy is the vig, he is the mafia vig or a serial killer. Game solvedSeanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:38 pmI didn't scumread either yesterday? I only decided on Wilgy after deliberating during night. I didn't feel good about shooting at the obvious choices (Guillo/SVS), so I looked into Wilgy and decided to shoot him.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:32 pmYou know I looked at both night kills, saw you were scum reading them both, then just wrote you down as Vigilante lol. I didn't think you'd actually claim it though.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:59 pmWell, looks like the cat's out of the bag.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:43 pm And if Seanzie is town, it is obvious Seanzie is the vig, who is voting me because i cannot be a pr with him according to his beliefs.
@Seanzie
This is why i townread you yesterday but i dont care about keeping your secret no more! So why did you kill Wilgy if you scum read me yesterday?
I don't believe you townread me for that yesterday. I was/am legit busy with the start of the semester, and would have low-posted regardless of my role. I didn't shoot you because I thought it was better to see if you'd self-resolve, and you AtE'd in a way that made me really doubt my read on you. I thought about shooting SVS, but I kinda believed how they were willing to throw themselves under the bus to save a claimed PR. Wilgy OTOH is someone who can snow town single-handedly, and in the world where I was wrong on you, I thought they were most likely wolf.
How did you know I shot Wilgy and not Michelle?
He claimed D1 JK that didn't act, how is this baiting the NK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:24 amHe is obviously not jailkeeper, he is baiting the night kill.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:59 pm Whp would Guillotine's partner be if they were wolf? I was thinking it had to be Epignosis, but does anyone have meta on Epignosis to know if they tend to bus this hard day 2?
Michelle ended on SVS, not you. Sorry, but this makes no sense.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:27 amI was not killed to push this.
Look at the kills, Michelle and Wilgy whom both pushed me early day 1 and one of them actually parked on me.
You'd think if I was mafia I wouldn't do the kills that point straight at me, but maybe I suck at mafia now.
Why wouldn't you fakeclaim to live? Especially since parity cop gives you plausible deniability for surviving N1, and possibly even give you a D2 pass since parity cop would likely self-resolve N2. D3 could be ELO with a D2 miss, so it makes a lot of sense as a fakeclaim.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:29 amYes I am mafia who faked claimed parity cop to live and went to kill the very people that pushed me hard on day 1 to look sus as fuck.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:30 pmPossible? Yes. Likely? That's harder to tell. I think Guillo is just outed at this point, and if I GTH I'd say you and Epi are probably fine. Epi's claim is just straight up weird if coming from scum - it was completely unnecessary, he was under no heat, his claim is the sort of "bad" that actually looks good, etc. My one issue with Epi is that if he is a disruptive role, it would be a good counter to my own role, but the way he's playing it is... well... If he is mafia here, his claim is working. I've already mentioned my tinfoil of you, but I don't feel the need to chase that with bigger fish out there. I'm noting this though for if Guillo flips wolf.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:11 pmThat's kind of why I was wondering. 4 claims with 2 being unconformable felt a bit weird. Do you think it's possible 2 Mafia are claiming a Power Role right now?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:07 pmMost heists I've played have been 2 town PRs with 1 mafia PR, and usually are 13ers or bigger. I know the site recently relaxed the heist standards, so I'm not sure what to expect, but even 4 PRs in a 10er feels weird. Regardless, I'mma vote for who I think is most likely mafia, claims considered.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:56 pm So here's a thought. There is 7 people alive, 4 of which are claiming a Power Role.
We could shoot into the 3 non-Power claims to try and kill a Mafia Goon (At least I highly doubt Mafia would get 2 Power Roles and there be only 2 Town-aligned Power Role). Although this does rely on at least 3 of the Power Role clams to be Town.
How likely does everyone think there would only be 3 Power Roles? Making it so 2 of the claims are real and 2 of the claims are Mafia Goon + Mafia Power Role?
If we do trust there is at least 3 Power Roles for Town in the setup there is statistically a stronger chance of killing a Mafia Goon in S~V~S, MR, and Falcon than shooting one of the Power Roles. It's not foolproof by any means, but an idea.
Parity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
No it does not, if i was the real cop i check their alignment at night to see if if it someone fosing or a wolf. DuhSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:08 pmParity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
They could play the same for an alignment cop claim. It is no different. Your claim doesn't make sense coming from town, but trying to get a pass to D3, then claim a diff check in ELO makes sense for a wolf, especially one that would have gone over D1 if not for the claim.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:18 pmNo it does not, if i was the real cop i check their alignment at night to see if if it someone fosing or a wolf. DuhSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:08 pmParity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
To make scum dont believe is day 1 onlySeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:57 pmHe claimed D1 JK that didn't act, how is this baiting the NK?Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:24 amHe is obviously not jailkeeper, he is baiting the night kill.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:59 pm Whp would Guillotine's partner be if they were wolf? I was thinking it had to be Epignosis, but does anyone have meta on Epignosis to know if they tend to bus this hard day 2?
Then why not claim that my parity check starts at n0, fake a check on night 1 and derail the game completely today?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:25 pmThey could play the same for an alignment cop claim. It is no different. Your claim doesn't make sense coming from town, but trying to get a pass to D3, then claim a diff check in ELO makes sense for a wolf, especially one that would have gone over D1 if not for the claim.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:18 pmNo it does not, if i was the real cop i check their alignment at night to see if if it someone fosing or a wolf. DuhSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:08 pmParity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
If you actually intended to bait the NK, you would have claimed a N0 check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:31 pmThen why not claim that my parity check starts at n0, fake a check on night 1 and derail the game completely today?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:25 pmThey could play the same for an alignment cop claim. It is no different. Your claim doesn't make sense coming from town, but trying to get a pass to D3, then claim a diff check in ELO makes sense for a wolf, especially one that would have gone over D1 if not for the claim.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:18 pmNo it does not, if i was the real cop i check their alignment at night to see if if it someone fosing or a wolf. DuhSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:08 pmParity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 amFor what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:40 am Yeet me today if you must but don't expect apologies from me post game cause I will not, I played pro-town
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
That is fair, i didnt think of thatSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:34 pmIf you actually intended to bait the NK, you would have claimed a N0 check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:31 pmThen why not claim that my parity check starts at n0, fake a check on night 1 and derail the game completely today?Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:25 pmThey could play the same for an alignment cop claim. It is no different. Your claim doesn't make sense coming from town, but trying to get a pass to D3, then claim a diff check in ELO makes sense for a wolf, especially one that would have gone over D1 if not for the claim.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:18 pmNo it does not, if i was the real cop i check their alignment at night to see if if it someone fosing or a wolf. DuhSeanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:08 pmParity cop baits any cop. You think a mostly vanilla game would have a parity cop and an alignment cop? Sorry, no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:45 amI was not going to claim alignment cop and actually bait the real alignment cop and actually game throw, same for doctor or other likely standard roles here, the idea was surviving and baiting not to help scum baiting a likely claim.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 am
For what it's worth I do think it's a fair play for a town to do so.
I just don't really believe you here. If you were trying to die night 1 as a Vanilla Townie, Parity Cop isn't the claim.
Mafia are fairly disincentivized from killing a Parity Cop claim since you couldn't get info night 1. So claiming Parity Cop really does give the opposite vibes of someone trying to bait the night kill.
No. Sorry. Michelle was annoyed that I called her aggro, and refused to really engage with my questions regarding exactly WHY she suspected me. She acted like she was humoring me, and not really interested in considering that I might be town. I am looking forward to asking her post game why she was so sure I was bad, actually. But being town doesn't mean one is infallible or even correct, and Michelle was not correct. I was horribly wrong in a recent game, it happens to all of us. And last yeet, votes were falling off me, when I said I'd prefer not to yeet the guy claiming a town role, and he called me a LAMIST, voted me, pushed others to, and stayed there even after I went to 4 votes, and seemed surprised I didn't die. I firmly believe nothing clears anyone ever, and people clear others too easily, but thread activity and voting analysis can point in the right direction.
He had went kinda "meh" to me being sus, till he called me a LAMIST, then he decided I was bad iirc. There could have been more to it than that, and it may already have been addressed, but this is where I am in catch up.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:20 pmI looked at Guillo's ISO inbetween these posts, and he does speak in length about Michelle. Naming his earlier top town here over SVS isn't so surprising considering how much effort he put into pushing MIchelle after the reads list. However, I don't see much at all about SVS between these posts. @Guillotine what changed with regards to SVS here during D1?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:58 pm Going back to this post:
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:31 pmGuillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:54 pm Town
Michelle
Null
Seanzie
Cat
Scum
DrWilgy
SvS
Spicy read
LinearPoint could be whiteknighting me.You don't require permission to vote out S~V~S if the first post is real. It isn't. You're a liar. You're mafia.Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm And I would vote out SvS as self preservation if the wagons remain like this until EoD, but I'd prefer one in Michelle/Wilgy
Which is why she was killed imo, to point straight at me, lol.Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:00 pmMichelle ended on SVS, not you. Sorry, but this makes no sense.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:27 amI was not killed to push this.
Look at the kills, Michelle and Wilgy whom both pushed me early day 1 and one of them actually parked on me.
You'd think if I was mafia I wouldn't do the kills that point straight at me, but maybe I suck at mafia now.
More than they directly kill the people sussing them imo, at least early in the game. When I’m bad, on might one I usually kill people unlikely to be protected or people who fairly strongly sussed someone who isn’t a wolf. Having the civvies come out of the gate start of day chomping at the bit to yeet some townie you set up, and not you, is the best when you’re a wolf. You sit back and let town slaughter each other.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:30 pm How often do scum teams actually choose kills based on framing someone?
I mean I would've killed Michelle too. She was engaged and thinking critically and was clearly a danger to any scum team.S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:09 pmMore than they directly kill the people sussing them imo, at least early in the game. When I’m bad, on might one I usually kill people unlikely to be protected or people who fairly strongly sussed someone who isn’t a wolf. Having the civvies come out of the gate start of day chomping at the bit to yeet some townie you set up, and not you, is the best when you’re a wolf. You sit back and let town slaughter each other.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:30 pm How often do scum teams actually choose kills based on framing someone?
If someone won’t shut up you kill them later in the game, but not night one.
But it’s all wifom, really.
Do you think I killed Michelle?
If I lose, it's for far greater reasons than that.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:16 amo you dont scum read me, you just think parity cop can't exist, not a real scum read, if we lose, we lose because you meta games the host not because you scum read me. Get wrecked.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:20 pm As things stand, I don't believe a word that comes from Guillotine.
A "parity cop" was something I'd never heard of. Fine.
JJJ has never said that phrase on this site. Fine.
It's been mentioned four times in over a decade. Four. Fine.
A "limited use parity cop" is hilarious though. A parity cop is ALREADY by it's nature limited.
I hesitated Day 1 on Guillotine because my own role was limited. To me that spoke of a level of honesty that gave me pause.
Instead, I think Guillotine or Guillotine's partner has a limited role that provided Guillotine with knowledge that limited roles were in play.
[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine
Booze.Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:23 amWhy didn't you jailkept me if you also thought i was scum with SvS then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:51 pmAnd that makes even less sense.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 pmWhy would I lie about that? I could keep my mouth shut.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:39 pm It's also possible Epignosis is lying about not using their ability and is just a Roleblocker who hit a non-Power Role night 1.
If I'm a mafia role blocker, and Guillotine over here is the parity cop, I'm targeting Guillotine with that.