Severance [Evening Four]

[robyn]

also rondo, mac has 0 posted so far

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok it’s all coming back to me

also, I am not a twink. I destroy twinks in their dreams

liar, you told me yourself

why are we voting... checks thread vote... Gira

[robyn]

also, I am not a twink. I destroy twinks in their dreams

liar, you told me yourself

just ask Ender

ender isn't here

why are u lying, u described yourself as a twink to me

[TonyStarkPrime]

I only remember this because I just skimmed hot dog game earlier and I warned everyone about the day 1 rondo chop

[RondoDimBuckle]

also rondo, mac has 0 posted so far

I dont care. Mac could be mafia this game and I am going to tank for him because I am just happy to be in a game with him for once in a long time. So if he is bad this game gotta kill me first

[Ranmilia]

Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

[RondoDimBuckle]

ok my lunch is over so gonna go school some idiots. Smell you later

[robyn]

Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

read anything from rondo's entry?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergine Hi, bye

[robyn]

Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergine Hi, bye

stop voting her ty

[Ranmilia]

Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

read anything from rondo's entry?

Energy and throwing themselves directly at the potential of mac = probably good and more AI than dubz' lack of existence (unless mac is wolf)

The vote targets I am less thrilled about.

[Bereft]

In the gray light of the refridgerator I spot a bottle of Tabasco sauce. I already know what I'm having for dinner tonight. ~ Bereft

[leetic]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

[leetic]

In the gray light of the refridgerator I spot a bottle of Tabasco sauce. I already know what I'm having for dinner tonight. ~ Bereft

Also, if you're not gonna take this seriously then why should I take you seriously?

[robyn]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

what’s ur read on me u twink

[leetic]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

what’s ur read on me u twink

Why are you asking yourself that question?

[robyn]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

what’s ur read on me u twink

Why are you asking yourself that question?

what's your current read on me, leetic

[Ranmilia]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Kinda weird thing to drop at random. Who are you thinking of in these terms?

[Ranmilia]

actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

[leetic]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Kinda weird thing to drop at random. Who are you thinking of in these terms?

Mainly our newly arrived one who thinks that talking at length about the one person who hasn't showed is the best use of their time

[robyn]

actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

yeah i don't actually know this lol

[robyn]

Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Kinda weird thing to drop at random. Who are you thinking of in these terms?

Mainly our newly arrived one who thinks that talking at length about the one person who hasn't showed is the best use of their time

(i invited rondo into this game and i only convinced him because mac was signed up, to add context)

[leetic]

actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

Dropped my GTH reads already. For now I am interested in pushing people and seeing where they develop. Dyslexicon looks worst, and I'm not really a fan of pyxxy either. Windward looks better than at the beginning of the game but not off the hook yet. I'm still getting a lukewarm feeling from most of your posts. Abby is Abby, but lean town due to her treatment of me vs. the last game. tedxtr is mostly just there, but I do like that a few of their posts have been seemingly trying to solve. TSP is also just there but with less good-looking posts. robyn has been dense and I don't really give a rat's ass about their previous game but their reactions at least seem natural. And I guess there's Gira, who had a decent early game but just seems blendy recently. If there's anyone I'm missing they just haven't stood out to me at all in the grand scheme of the game.

[Gira]

I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[robyn]

actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

Dropped my GTH reads already. For now I am interested in pushing people and seeing where they develop. Dyslexicon looks worst, and I'm not really a fan of pyxxy either. Windward looks better than at the beginning of the game but not off the hook yet. I'm still getting a lukewarm feeling from most of your posts. Abby is Abby, but lean town due to her treatment of me vs. the last game. tedxtr is mostly just there, but I do like that a few of their posts have been seemingly trying to solve. TSP is also just there but with less good-looking posts. robyn has been dense and I don't really give a rat's ass about their previous game but their reactions at least seem natural. And I guess there's Gira, who had a decent early game but just seems blendy recently. If there's anyone I'm missing they just haven't stood out to me at all in the grand scheme of the game.

ran hasn’t stood out to you?

[Ranmilia]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10

leetic (and others) please at least skim over this game, like a third of this game's playerlist was in it and it will help you understand the dynamics going on here a lot better.

[leetic]

I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

OMGUS, or is there more to this vote?

[leetic]

actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

Dropped my GTH reads already. For now I am interested in pushing people and seeing where they develop. Dyslexicon looks worst, and I'm not really a fan of pyxxy either. Windward looks better than at the beginning of the game but not off the hook yet. I'm still getting a lukewarm feeling from most of your posts. Abby is Abby, but lean town due to her treatment of me vs. the last game. tedxtr is mostly just there, but I do like that a few of their posts have been seemingly trying to solve. TSP is also just there but with less good-looking posts. robyn has been dense and I don't really give a rat's ass about their previous game but their reactions at least seem natural. And I guess there's Gira, who had a decent early game but just seems blendy recently. If there's anyone I'm missing they just haven't stood out to me at all in the grand scheme of the game.

ran hasn’t stood out to you?

Read the part that is written in second person

[leetic]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10
leetic (and others) please at least skim over this game, like a third of this game's playerlist was in it and it will help you understand the dynamics going on here a lot better.

I don't give a shit. I wasn't there to experience the game, thus I will only get a biased view from it, plus I am not going to spend hours reading a game that can be used to solve this one. If there are one or two posts worth reading there feel free to post them here but I am not digging through all that.

[Gira]

I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

OMGUS, or is there more to this vote?

well - I didn't like dubz's content and thought it was possibly scum struggling to make an entry into the game thread, was waiting to see more from her, obv did not get that, think the entrance from rondo is, well, trash. comes across as blatant bandwagoning with no real thought behind it

tsp's vote on me is w/e, i would have voted him back but i actually liked how he reacted to ranmilia saying she'd shoot dizzy - the immediate skepticism i thought was a very plausible reaction. don't know what to think about robyn

[Ranmilia]

leetic, how much have you played with others in this game previously, and how much weight do you give to meta interactions?

[Gira]

by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".


neon is, uh, i think town in that she is doing her usual stream of consciousness and the thoughts that come out seem believable even if some of the reasoning is bizarre

[leetic]

leetic, how much have you played with others in this game previously, and how much weight do you give to meta interactions?

I'm actually familiar with a decent amount of people here, but I am well used to playing in games where I am familiar with nobody. Meta can be helpful when you're going off of your own experiences, but not when going off someone else's, and I hold to the fact that it's not necessary to solve the game. I think tedxtr has said that my play here is much different from my wolf play years ago, but I don't think that's too helpful given how much I've grown as a player since then, not to mention how long it's been since I've randed wolf (I've randed ITP twice since my last wolf rand) so even I am not sure how I would play as a wolf if I randed as one

[Gira]

Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

[leetic]

by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".

That's not really a helpful tell. In a game I hosted, wolf JJJ was very active and vocal. That made it hard for me to believe that he was a wolf in a later game I played because his play there was much lamer than in that previous wolfgame, but it still turned out to be true. Alignment isn't always a good indicator of how much effort a player will put in.

[Gira]

by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".

That's not really a helpful tell. In a game I hosted, wolf JJJ was very active and vocal. That made it hard for me to believe that he was a wolf in a later game I played because his play there was much lamer than in that previous wolfgame, but it still turned out to be true. Alignment isn't always a good indicator of how much effort a player will put in.

sure people can always have games where they come out flat, i just don't see his play this game as actually being flat - the confidence behind the one read doesn't feel like someone who's struggling to produce content as much as someone who's being deliberately withdrawn, which is something i do a lot. I also don't think execting people to be max energy all the time works to catch scum all that well and it's certainly annoying to play around.

like honestly i think a lot of the stuff you focus on is just...not alignment indicative

[Gira]

i think ted has been decent so far and had some posts i liked, the suspecting tsp then re-evaluating because he missed the context felt organic, read on how dubz left the thread being possibly wolfy was a good thought, can townlean him

pyxxy i kind of think is town for the thinnest of gut reasons

[Ranmilia]

Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

[Gira]

Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

well it was enough to earn him a vote and your initial reaction to it seemed very blasé so was wondering if there was, like, some underlying thought that motivated it. possible i'm just misinterpreting how much weight you're putting on the vote.

[robyn]

you got some asperger’s shit going on

-mother

[Ranmilia]

Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

well it was enough to earn him a vote and your initial reaction to it seemed very blasé so was wondering if there was, like, some underlying thought that motivated it. possible i'm just misinterpreting how much weight you're putting on the vote.

I don't have a stronger wolfread elsewhere yet, and I'm Extremely Done with that sort of heckling driveby posting when I'm town and trying to play. There is definitely underlying thought, which is learning from past mistakes.

The last game I played was Lumi's big role madness thing, in which I led town against wolf Macdougall and his team constantly trying to undermine me with exactly that sort of posting. I had an opportunity to vig him and chickened out because other people townread him and I didn't want to be the one who sunk the game. I should've shot. We lost. The game I played before that was SCI '22 and Alison came at me out the gate with a similar wolfread; I let her off the hook and wow, she was a wolf. When I look back at all the games I've played since coming back to mafia one of the things that stands out the most is the people attacking me were in fact mafia and I should have killed them for it.

I'm well aware of how strong a player Dizzy is when he's active, which is why it's concerning that he's wrong on me. I see three worlds: reaction test (unlikely and didn't accomplish much), bad take based on not reading (uncharacteristic and deserves a paddling) or wolf (also uncharacteristic but nothing makes it impossible.) It's uncharacteristic no matter what.

[pyxxy]

As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

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spoiler added by the host. -JJJ

[robyn]

As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

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what’s the decryption key so that i can read the fanfic

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Notice:

@RondoDimBuckle is replacing @Dubz. Please do not discuss substitution actions in the game thread, though you may greet the newcomer.

Yeah I didnt get in at the last second but I got in now. Lets go!

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@pyxxy Just don't. Some sites would infract that for spamming.

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As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

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what’s the decryption key so that i can read the fanfic

rot69

[leetic]

Also stop quoting that crap, you're making this page unreadable

[leetic]

You know what, [VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine. If all you're gonna do is spam, then there is nothing more to discuss here.

[pyxxy]

by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".


neon is, uh, i think town in that she is doing her usual stream of consciousness and the thoughts that come out seem believable even if some of the reasoning is bizarre

what are the odds wolf gira makes this post

below rand, methinks, unless there's a partner in dizzy/abi. which I have no reason to suspect

[robyn]

Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

well it was enough to earn him a vote and your initial reaction to it seemed very blasé so was wondering if there was, like, some underlying thought that motivated it. possible i'm just misinterpreting how much weight you're putting on the vote.

I don't have a stronger wolfread elsewhere yet, and I'm Extremely Done with that sort of heckling driveby posting when I'm town and trying to play. There is definitely underlying thought, which is learning from past mistakes.

The last game I played was Lumi's big role madness thing, in which I led town against wolf Macdougall and his team constantly trying to undermine me with exactly that sort of posting. I had an opportunity to vig him and chickened out because other people townread him and I didn't want to be the one who sunk the game. I should've shot. We lost. The game I played before that was SCI '22 and Alison came at me out the gate with a similar wolfread; I let her off the hook and wow, she was a wolf. When I look back at all the games I've played since coming back to mafia one of the things that stands out the most is the people attacking me were in fact mafia and I should have killed them for it.

I'm well aware of how strong a player Dizzy is when he's active, which is why it's concerning that he's wrong on me. I see three worlds: reaction test (unlikely and didn't accomplish much), bad take based on not reading (uncharacteristic and deserves a paddling) or wolf (also uncharacteristic but nothing makes it impossible.) It's uncharacteristic no matter what.

let’s roleplay

ur john f kennedy

and i’m in the grassy knoll