The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:30 am Ok it’s all coming back to me

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:29 am also, I am not a twink. I destroy twinks in their dreams

liar, you told me yourself

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:31 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:29 am also, I am not a twink. I destroy twinks in their dreams

liar, you told me yourself

just ask Ender

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:31 am also rondo, mac has 0 posted so far

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:32 am Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:32 am Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:34 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:32 am Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergine Hi, bye

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:34 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:32 am Well that simplified things. Welcome to the thread Rondo!

read anything from rondo's entry?

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:04 am In the gray light of the refridgerator I spot a bottle of Tabasco sauce. I already know what I'm having for dinner tonight. ~ Bereft

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:14 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

what’s ur read on me u twink

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:15 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:14 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

what’s ur read on me u twink

Why are you asking yourself that question?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:19 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Kinda weird thing to drop at random. Who are you thinking of in these terms?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:20 am actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:20 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:19 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 am Not really a fan of people who have more interactions with inactives than people actually playing the game. They turn out to be wolves a surprising amount of time.

Kinda weird thing to drop at random. Who are you thinking of in these terms?

Mainly our newly arrived one who thinks that talking at length about the one person who hasn't showed is the best use of their time

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:20 am actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:27 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:20 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:34 pm I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:26 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:20 am actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

Dropped my GTH reads already. For now I am interested in pushing people and seeing where they develop. Dyslexicon looks worst, and I'm not really a fan of pyxxy either. Windward looks better than at the beginning of the game but not off the hook yet. I'm still getting a lukewarm feeling from most of your posts. Abby is Abby, but lean town due to her treatment of me vs. the last game. tedxtr is mostly just there, but I do like that a few of their posts have been seemingly trying to solve. TSP is also just there but with less good-looking posts. robyn has been dense and I don't really give a rat's ass about their previous game but their reactions at least seem natural. And I guess there's Gira, who had a decent early game but just seems blendy recently. If there's anyone I'm missing they just haven't stood out to me at all in the grand scheme of the game.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:29 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:27 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:20 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:34 pm I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:30 am

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:26 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:20 am actually leetic what are your reads, overall?

Dropped my GTH reads already. For now I am interested in pushing people and seeing where they develop. Dyslexicon looks worst, and I'm not really a fan of pyxxy either. Windward looks better than at the beginning of the game but not off the hook yet. I'm still getting a lukewarm feeling from most of your posts. Abby is Abby, but lean town due to her treatment of me vs. the last game. tedxtr is mostly just there, but I do like that a few of their posts have been seemingly trying to solve. TSP is also just there but with less good-looking posts. robyn has been dense and I don't really give a rat's ass about their previous game but their reactions at least seem natural. And I guess there's Gira, who had a decent early game but just seems blendy recently. If there's anyone I'm missing they just haven't stood out to me at all in the grand scheme of the game.

ran hasn’t stood out to you?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:30 am https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -Season-10
leetic (and others) please at least skim over this game, like a third of this game's playerlist was in it and it will help you understand the dynamics going on here a lot better.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:30 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:29 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:27 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:20 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:34 pm I stared at the list and decided Gira was the most likely wolf

oh word?

Hey, why are TSP, Robyn and me voting you?

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

OMGUS, or is there more to this vote?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:40 am leetic, how much have you played with others in this game previously, and how much weight do you give to meta interactions?

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:43 am by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:48 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:43 am by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".

That's not really a helpful tell. In a game I hosted, wolf JJJ was very active and vocal. That made it hard for me to believe that he was a wolf in a later game I played because his play there was much lamer than in that previous wolfgame, but it still turned out to be true. Alignment isn't always a good indicator of how much effort a player will put in.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:46 am Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:03 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:46 am Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:07 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:03 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:46 am Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

well it was enough to earn him a vote and your initial reaction to it seemed very blasé so was wondering if there was, like, some underlying thought that motivated it. possible i'm just misinterpreting how much weight you're putting on the vote.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:44 pm As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:24 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:44 pm As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

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RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:25 am

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:55 pm Notice:

@RondoDimBuckle is replacing @Dubz. Please do not discuss substitution actions in the game thread, though you may greet the newcomer.

Yeah I didnt get in at the last second but I got in now. Lets go!

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:25 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:24 am

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:44 pm As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

At that point, it's a flaw in the setup. How am I supposed to argue against robyn when I'm not allowed to mention the evidence that disproves them? Regardless, I feel it should be fine because I'm not using it to make reads, although it is a grey area. Still, it goes to show why I think disallowing discussion of activity statuses is not a good idea even if some consider it "angleshooting" (it can be played around, so I don't see why some people see it as unfair)

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what’s the decryption key so that i can read the fanfic

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:43 am by all accounts dizzy is an excellent and highly motivated player of the mafia alignment, so i don't particularly think him being "flaccid" is a valid scumtell. I struggle to believe he chooses to start a game off by lowposting and taking potshots at one player as mafia. I have, on the other hand, seen him get miskilled for being "underwhelming".


neon is, uh, i think town in that she is doing her usual stream of consciousness and the thoughts that come out seem believable even if some of the reasoning is bizarre

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:22 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:07 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:03 am

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:46 am Ran, at what point did you come around to actually believing Dizzy is scum?

Around the word "Wolfmillia" although "actually believing" is considerably overselling.

well it was enough to earn him a vote and your initial reaction to it seemed very blasé so was wondering if there was, like, some underlying thought that motivated it. possible i'm just misinterpreting how much weight you're putting on the vote.

I don't have a stronger wolfread elsewhere yet, and I'm Extremely Done with that sort of heckling driveby posting when I'm town and trying to play. There is definitely underlying thought, which is learning from past mistakes.

The last game I played was Lumi's big role madness thing, in which I led town against wolf Macdougall and his team constantly trying to undermine me with exactly that sort of posting. I had an opportunity to vig him and chickened out because other people townread him and I didn't want to be the one who sunk the game. I should've shot. We lost. The game I played before that was SCI '22 and Alison came at me out the gate with a similar wolfread; I let her off the hook and wow, she was a wolf. When I look back at all the games I've played since coming back to mafia one of the things that stands out the most is the people attacking me were in fact mafia and I should have killed them for it.

I'm well aware of how strong a player Dizzy is when he's active, which is why it's concerning that he's wrong on me. I see three worlds: reaction test (unlikely and didn't accomplish much), bad take based on not reading (uncharacteristic and deserves a paddling) or wolf (also uncharacteristic but nothing makes it impossible.) It's uncharacteristic no matter what.