The Syndicate

Elohcin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Mongoose, I'm going to be honest- that last post made me go from Whoo to wehrn wehrn wehrn with you.

I've been increasingly wondering about Mongoose as well. I am going to catch up more and reread her while I eat lunch, then I have a massive amount of dishes to do

Elohcin wrote:After reading back through Mongoose and k4j, I find the suspicions on k4j to be stronger than Mongoose. That is where my vote will most likely go today.

juliets wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:llama if you have already answered this my apologies, but what do you think about k4j?

Also, is there anything else about Mongoose besides your opinion that she's been more defensive than normal? I will go back through her posts since I haven't seen this point brought up before but I just wonder if there's not something else, even small, that you are seeing.

What made youback offfrom voting INH?

The only thing that had me suspicious about INH is how defensive he was but others convinced me that he is that way no matter his alignment so I dropped my suspicion of him. I know you voted him - do you still carry suspicion of him?

Well MPdefendedhim. Wouldhedo that tohis own team?

Uh oh - looks like you're cursed. I can still understand you though which is good. My thought is that MP would not defend a teammate in a thread because he is known for doing the opposite, throwing them under the bus. Or, maybe you know something I don't about the way he normally plays and I'm wrong. Are you thinking you might vote for him Snow Dog?

linki

juliets wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:llama if you have already answered this my apologies, but what do you think about k4j?

Also, is there anything else about Mongoose besides your opinion that she's been more defensive than normal? I will go back through her posts since I haven't seen this point brought up before but I just wonder if there's not something else, even small, that you are seeing.

What made youback offfrom voting INH?

The only thing that had me suspicious about INH is how defensive he was but others convinced me that he is that way no matter his alignment so I dropped my suspicion of him. I know you voted him - do you still carry suspicion of him?

Well MPdefendedhim. Wouldhedo that tohis own team?

Uh oh - looks like you're cursed. I can still understand you though which is good. My thought is that MP would not defend a teammate in a thread because he is known for doing the opposite, throwing them under the bus. Or, maybe you know something I don't about the way he normally plays and I'm wrong. Are you thinking you might vote for him Snow Dog?

linki

kneel4justice wrote:I have to go again.
Sorry, I don't know if I will be back.
I'll vote for FZ.

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

juliets wrote:llama if you have already answered this my apologies, but what do you think about k4j?

Also, is there anything else about Mongoose besides your opinion that she's been more defensive than normal? I will go back through her posts since I haven't seen this point brought up before but I just wonder if there's not something else, even small, that you are seeing.

What made youback offfrom voting INH?

The only thing that had me suspicious about INH is how defensive he was but others convinced me that he is that way no matter his alignment so I dropped my suspicion of him. I know you voted him - do you still carry suspicion of him?

Well MPdefendedhim. Wouldhedo that tohis own team?

kneel4justice wrote:
As for why I hid my suspicion of Epi, I will try to explain one more time.
I am often a player who says things really fast, out of the gate, and sometimes I make mistakes because I accuse people of not being themselves before they have the opportunity to do so. That has happened on KSITE so unfortunately I cannot give you any examples. But I am criticized with not giving people the chance to be themselves, so while I was suspicious I didn't want to come at Epi too early for his lack of participation (which is the only reason I was suspicious) and lead a lynch when he just hadn't got around to it. Because I was definitely coming with the night and day comparison of WWE and CAH. If I did it too early and he was townie, I might have felt any later input was to settle my nerves. If I did it too early and he was scum, it would have tipped him off into realizing he needed to do something. So I wanted to see what happened, without any of my interaction, to see what was more honest and natural.
I didn't clarify who it was later because I didn't see a reason to give the names on who I trusted because that could have been seen as a threat to the mafia.

Snow Dog wrote:Idon't think I like baddies described as scum. It is not a situation I want to play in.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Idon't think I like baddies described as scum. It is not a situation I want to play in.

Thats the term they use on KSITE instead of baddie, which is K4J and FZ's home site. It's not a personal thing.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Idon't think I like baddies described as scum. It is not a situation I want to play in.

Thats the term they use on KSITE instead of baddie, which is K4J and FZ's home site. It's not a personal thing.

Snow Dog wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Idon't think I like baddies described as scum. It is not a situation I want to play in.

Thats the term they use on KSITE instead of baddie, which is K4J and FZ's home site. It's not a personal thing.

Well I don't like it. If it becomes the norm I am out.

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I agree with llama that a spread vote makes it easier for the baddies to manipulate the lynch in their favor, but I also agree with MP/TH as well. If we go llama's way and pile votes on someone like Dom, chances are he will turn out civ and then we are left with not much info to go on. Day 1 is usually all about guessing and disappointment unfortunately.

Lots of names have been thrown around but I have no gut pings as of yet, my gut pings are usually right. I'd like to be able to wait and see if I get any, but there is not much time and I need to go ahead and vote b/c I have RL stuff to do.

Randomizing DFaraday. That's right....I don't want to be accountable for my vote

Great to have you back SnowDog!

This has to be one of the most ambivalent posts I've ever seen.

Regarding the enlarged, what is it about Dom that makes him more likely to be civilian than anyone else? "Someone like Dom..."

Anyway, let me outline this post:

1a. Spreading the vote makes it easier for Mafia to manipulate the lynch but
2a. A bandwagon will most likely lynch a civilian
A. Therefore Day 1 is about guessing and being disappointed.

1b. I have no instinct, which is unfortunate because
2b. My instincts are usually good, so
B. I will vote randomly.

The defeatist attitude of item "A" stands in stark contrast with the next post, highlighted below. Item "A" also is not what one would expect if Item "2b" were true.

Elohcin wrote:Seriously?!? That is an amazing result. I can't believe that in two games in a row we got a baddie Day 1. I think I will be less likely to randomize Day 1 now. Great result!

I am choosing "my journal". I would never forget food, drink, or a rope. I am one of those mom's that has everything she or her kids will need right in her purse/diaper bag .

Pokemon (the other game referenced), Day 1:

Elohcin » Sat May 17, 2014 12:12 pm wrote:I voted for Kyle since he voted for me. I know his vote was random and there are no hard feelings there. And, I wouldn't have voted for him if it meant he would receive 2 votes and be tied for first. I wanted to vote for someone who had no votes so far and he seemed like the best choice. All in good fun! But I hope more things come to the surface thoughout the night and tomorrow so we can have a better idea of who could be bad.

The enlarged text above implies that you voted randomly on Day 1 in both Pokemon and here. But you didn't vote randomly on Day 1 in Pokemon- only here.

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

FZ. wrote:Okay, since I'm going now on my vacation, I have to vote. I would really like to lynch Reywas, but no one seems to want to follow, so I'm left with either K4J or Mongoose who might get others' vote . I feel the stronger case if for K4J, and as much as I want him here playing, I can't let that go. Kitty, if you're a civ, I'm really sorry, but I have to make a decision now.

See you all on Saturday

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

I think I will. What you've pointed out seems more meaningful than my feelings on k4j or FZ.

Linki: I did?

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

I will take it on board. Your points seem fairly sound.

Lizzy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

I think I will. What you've pointed out seems more meaningful than my feelings on k4j or FZ.

Linki: I did?

Of course you did. And you missed one of my points on the other page that was specifically addressed to you.

thellama73 wrote:This is an odd head-to-head that I didn't forsee. I'm still voting for Mongoose though, because I think she is most culpable.

thellama73 wrote:This is an odd head-to-head that I didn't forsee. I'm still voting for Mongoose though, because I think she is most culpable.

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Elohcin and I think others should too. I don't think a dual bandwagon between k4j and FZ. is prudent.

Lizzy wrote:On Marshy, I know you've also been away, but I have to agree with Llama, there isn't a lot of helpful content in your posts, and I know what you can do as both a helpful civilian and a more reserved baddie. I miss Jennet tbh. (although I can't complain about the zombie date with Polaris either )

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Tch, 1 minute late.

kneel4justice wrote:@Lizzy From what I saw in WWE and CAH I saw the Epi you're talking about in WWE. I haven't played much with him but he was really quiet in CAH which is why I wanted to see if it would continue or if he would turn into the player I was familiar with in WWE, if my logic is faulty it is because I have only played a few games with him and I made this comparison. My posts make sense coming from my logic. As for my tone of defense, I understand but I've never been in this position before against a bunch of people where the majority don't know how I play and the few that do are wrongfully voting me

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Lizzy wrote:On Marshy, I know you've also been away, but I have to agree with Llama, there isn't a lot of helpful content in your posts, and I know what you can do as both a helpful civilian and a more reserved baddie. I miss Jennet tbh. (although I can't complain about the zombie date with Polaris either )

I have been more focused on defending myself from llama today than doing any scum baddie-hunting tbh, and so haven't paid as much attention to some of the other goings-on. I also don't know why I'm continually being accused of not posting content when that was just a Day 1 phenomenon. Today has been a different story. If you want someone who's posted but not been helpful at all, look at Vomps.

As for the Harry Potter game, I have never played such an aggressive game in my life, nor do know if I could ever pull that off again, especially since we still lost anyway. You have to admit too, I was one lucky SOB for getting the all the baddies right. And yes, Zombie date ftw!

Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Ok, I've been watching both k4j and FZ. Honestly, I am really torn. k4j, I want you to understand that it is not that your explanation is impossible. It's how the explanation was handled. It's that you can't see why it would look suspicious from the outside. Why would you even drop a mysterious hint about who you're suspecting if you're not going to say who you're suspecting?

The reason I'm torn is that I also really suspect FZ. Her (right?) behavior since you've come under suspicion has become even more suspicious.

But I think I'm going to have to stick with a vote for you.

*votes k4j

Lizzy wrote: That is odd, because it's just Llama. Is his vote worth 10 or something?

Lizzy wrote:That is odd, because it's just Llama. Is his vote worth 10 or something?

Lizzy wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:@Lizzy From what I saw in WWE and CAH I saw the Epi you're talking about in WWE. I haven't played much with him but he was really quiet in CAH which is why I wanted to see if it would continue or if he would turn into the player I was familiar with in WWE, if my logic is faulty it is because I have only played a few games with him and I made this comparison. My posts make sense coming from my logic. As for my tone of defense, I understand but I've never been in this position before against a bunch of people where the majority don't know how I play and the few that do are wrongfully voting me

All right, let's say you're not entirely familiar with his play style, fair enough. But I still don't see how being cryptic in regards to your suspicions, be that Epi or anyone else, has any impact on their evolution and your telling if they're civ or not. I actually think you should call them out on whatever and see how they react under pressure, like you right now.