The Syndicate

Thanks for checking on that FH, I just didn't have it in me last night to go looking and I was on my iPad, makes everything much more difficult.

I love your last two points. Its certainly easy enough to say (PARAPHRASING), "well I see the case on Bea, sure, but I feel stronger about Rabbit." What he did was ignore the Bea situation entirely then come back to say (PARAPHRASING, AGAIN), "oh yea, I was suspicious of her all along too!" (Maybe even more so than Rabbit, but to vote her would have made me look bad?) What would make him look bad about voting a baddie OR at the very least mentioning his suspicion? I don't think he went to school the day his teammie taught "bus throwing." Not to mention, Bea was no where to be found during that lynch, so he may have felt uneasy about voting his teammie without her express okay.

His last post, where he says, sure I'll vote for the last 2/3 of Bea voters, who should we lynch Rab? So lets look at the people who DID vote a baddie instead of me (who was suspicious of said baddie but declined to vote her or even mention her)? I don't even know who he was referring to, but since only Rabbit and -in hindsight- Bea were his suspects, why in the world would he be willing to simply pick 2/3 of the players and then just pick a name out of a hat OR even more ironically, be willing to trust Rabbit who in his last 50 post was his TOP SUSPECT???

I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

Kate wrote:Thanks for checking on that FH, I just didn't have it in me last night to go looking and I was on my iPad, makes everything much more difficult.

I love your last two points. Its certainly easy enough to say (PARAPHRASING), "well I see the case on Bea, sure, but I feel stronger about Rabbit." What he did was ignore the Bea situation entirely then come back to say (PARAPHRASING, AGAIN), "oh yea, I was suspicious of her all along too!" (Maybe even more so than Rabbit, but to vote her would have made me look bad?) What would make him look bad about voting a baddie OR at the very least mentioning his suspicion? I don't think he went to school the day his teammie taught "bus throwing." Not to mention, Bea was no where to be found during that lynch, so he may have felt uneasy about voting his teammie without her express okay.

His last post, where he says, sure I'll vote for the last 2/3 of Bea voters, who should we lynch Rab? So lets look at the people who DID vote a baddie instead of me (who was suspicious of said baddie but declined to vote her or even mention her)? I don't even know who he was referring to, but since only Rabbit and -in hindsight- Bea were his suspects, why in the world would he be willing to simply pick 2/3 of the players and then just pick a name out of a hat OR even more ironically, be willing to trust Rabbit who in his last 50 post was his TOP SUSPECT???

Exactly! There are enough oddities in Mr. Droopy's reasoning coupled with when he voted for rabbit that make me think we have found one of Bea's teammates in him.

@Vompatti: You still haven't explained why you're voting for rabbit. You said personal reasons yesterday which is beyond strange to me. I was running under the assumption that maybe you were forced to vote for him yesterday, but to vote for him again today and again without explanation definitely sets off my ping-o-meter.

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Hey YO, WHAT THE FUCK?????

I am going to reread Day One later. In all the talk of benefits from voting a certain way, maybe something concrete can be distilled out of it. I am not sure what function Vomp is fulfilling, but i am becoming more sure his quirky behavior has a point to it, a reason behind it.

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

He seemed overly upset at me voting for him the first time (and this time) but hasn't particularly defended himself regardless of the three (3) relatively early votes so far.

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

Yes...this, please. We love a good vote explanation.

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

He seemed overly upset at me voting for him the first time (and this time) but hasn't particularly defended himself regardless of the three (3) relatively early votes so far.

Defend what?

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

He seemed overly upset at me voting for him the first time (and this time) but hasn't particularly defended himself regardless of the three (3) relatively early votes so far.

Well it can be hard to defend yourself against: 1) random votes, and 2) people voting against him for "personal reasons".

I was starting to feel pretty deadset on voting for Droopy today for the reasons I had mentioned, (I'm glad FH was nice enough to pull up the quotes I had been too lazy/tired to go back and check on last night. Thanks for that!) but to me, this screams having some ulterior motive behind it. Now I'm going to have to think and look back to decide which of the two of you are getting my vote.

Add in the fact bea is a baddie and its hard to defend against her baddie team voting for me.

Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Flyin' High wrote:Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

At this point, all I know is that I will not be voting for rabbit today. LoL. I'll probably be voting either Vompatti or Droopy....I'm thinking they might be teamies, actually.

Yeah I don't feel baddie vibes from rabbit. If Vomps is lynched though and comes back civ I could see him having some sort of info. But for the time being I don't feel like relying on that.

I'm really confused by Droopy's comments... I think that's enough to warrant a vote, no one else has been that confusing.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:
Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Care to share with the group then?

He seemed overly upset at me voting for him the first time (and this time) but hasn't particularly defended himself regardless of the three (3) relatively early votes so far.

Well it can be hard to defend yourself against: 1) random votes, and 2) people voting against him for "personal reasons".

I was starting to feel pretty deadset on voting for Droopy today for the reasons I had mentioned, (I'm glad FH was nice enough to pull up the quotes I had been too lazy/tired to go back and check on last night. Thanks for that!) but to me, this screams having some ulterior motive behind it. Now I'm going to have to think and look back to decide which of the two of you are getting my vote.

Random, really? I quote:

DharmaHelper wrote:AM I IN SOME SORT OF TWILIGHT ZONE OR ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE OR CHRISTMAS CAROL OR SOMETHING WHERE NOBODY CAN SEE A GOSH DARN THING I AM POSTING GRRRRRRR


Rabbit = Claims INH's episode regarding the first posting challenge was "not suspect", also claims Epignosis was suspect for voting and not posting, then says he's just "messing around".

THEN says that he's got no problem with Leech voting for himself etc etc.

THEN votes Leech with no explaination,

THEN Jumps into the SVS discussion by being all twisty with what SVS was saying.

The civvie Rabbit I know would be all over the Leech voters, giving them all kinds of crap and this rabbit is just chillin'. Not civvie rabbit! NOT CIVVIE!

Also, why are you taking his side?

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

I think Droopy is just being silly. That doesn't necessarily mean he's not a baddie though.

Vompatti wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

I think Droopy is just being silly. That doesn't necessarily mean he's not a baddie though.

So, why are you taking his side?

Vompatti wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

I think Droopy is just being silly. That doesn't necessarily mean he's not a baddie though.

Okay. But how is he just being silly?

Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??

I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.

I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

LittleTiger wrote:

Flyin' High wrote:Vompatti, what's your opinion on Mr. Droopy?

I've noticed you've stayed completely away from that discussion.

Yes, I would like to hear this as well.

I think Droopy is just being silly. That doesn't necessarily mean he's not a baddie though.

Okay. But how is he just being silly?

By posting the fairly obviously silly posts quoted on the previous page?

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??

I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.

I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

Um, did I ever say that was my big ping? It was one of many things I mentioned.

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??

I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.

I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

Not to mention, you have not been being interrogated. If you were, I highly doubt you wouldn't have said something along the lines of...you guys are wrong...I'm not bad...I'm working with civvies, something like that. I'm pretty surprised that of all the things we have all been saying, thats the one thing you focus on.

Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.

Dunno, as I said I'm not quite willing to buy into the impending Droopwagon, probably exclusively because you seem so determined to get people on board.

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.

Dunno, as I said I'm not quite willing to buy into the impending Droopwagon, probably exclusively because you seem so determined to get people on board.

Well since you seem to be implying I'm not a civ, let me start off by saying...I'm not bad.

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.

Dunno, as I said I'm not quite willing to buy into the impending Droopwagon, probably exclusively because you seem so determined to get people on board.

Why not, are you his teammate?

See, there's that incredible agressiveness again. "either you're with me or you're against me" stuff, and that sort of "Vote Droopy or you're his teammate" stuff does not fly in Dharmaville baby.

DharmaHelper wrote:See, there's that incredible agressiveness again. "either you're with me or you're against me" stuff, and that sort of "Vote Droopy or you're his teammate" stuff does not fly in Dharmaville baby.

Luckily what I'm selling, sells in Kateville. Honeypie.

I have to leave for work in the next few minutes, and we've been so busy lately that I probably won't get a chance to vote while I'm there. Right now I am torn in between Vompatti and Droopy.

On the one hand, Vompatti keeps plugging away on the rabbit bandwagon (even with the quote from DH you posted, I'm not sure I fully buy your reasoning) and even voted for him for "personal reasons". That looks suspicious enough as it is.

On the other hand, Droopy has been very inconsistent, I'm not buying his voting for rabbit just for his "aggressiveness" or however it was he worded it. A lot of what he's been saying seems like a last-ditch attempt to save himself, and I think it's entirely possible he could be one of bea's teammates.

While I'm fine with either option, I originally felt and still feel more strongly about Droopy, so he is getting my vote this time.

Votes Droopy

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Just throwing a wrench into all of this, ain'tcha... That kind of bomb seems to have taken some flak off of Droopy. Someone hypothesized that you're teammates; I think this merits further checking.

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??

I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.

I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

Since I was the one who took the time to pull all of the quotes to corroborate Kate's comment about him not denying he's bad, I just want to say there is a difference between not denying you're bad when you are under suspicion versus when you aren't (in my opinion).

Players who are quick to claim "I'm a civvie" or "I'm not bad" when they aren't under suspicion inevitably make me look their way. But when you are under suspicion, in my experience people who are civvies include that as part of their defense. Whereas Mr. Droopy has spent most of his time trying to deflect onto anyone but himself (rabbit, low-posters, chaindeath or Captain Bunny Killer).

And if I vote for Mr. Droopy which is where I'm leaning it won't be because I've jumped on the Droopwagon (though I've gotta say that's an awesome term!) but because based on voting results and thread evidence, I think he's likely a teammate of Bea's.

I am very pinged by Vompatti's comments. I can't decide if he has evidence about rabbit, or is just being zany.

In fact now I'm very certain I'm not going to be voting Droopy today, if we're wheeling out the "Vote Droopy or you're a Baddie" posters. Never really been one to follow "Dear Leader"


Of course he could be a baddie, but as the song goes, he's not the only one.

So, as it stands I'll be voting INH.

Kate wrote:I'm too tired to read back right now but I don't believe that droopy has even denied his baddie ness.

DharmaHelper wrote:Alright, Kate, seriously? Your big ping about Droopy is "he never said he WASN'T a baddie!!!" ??
I've not said "I am a civvie" all game, doesn't mean I'm not a civvie.
I'm still locked in on either Rabbit or INH, but for this lynch I'm leaning on voting INH...

Actually the interesting thing I noticed here is that Droopy explicitly claimed he was civ literally his first post after Kate's observation.

Anyway I'm going out this afternoon so going to vote within the next 15 minutes or so.

DharmaHelper wrote:In fact now I'm very certain I'm not going to be voting Droopy today, if we're wheeling out the "Vote Droopy or you're a Baddie" posters. Never really been one to follow "Dear Leader"


Of course he could be a baddie, but as the song goes, he's not the only one.

So, as it stands I'll be voting INH.

For the record, I don't think anyone who doesn't vote Droopy is bad, but I do think he's bad, so I'm guessing unless someone pulls a Sofi, I'll be voting there. :politegiggle:

I was being a tad facetious when I asked if you were his teammate because you were up on me for being "aggressive" which made me want to aggress even more (not sure that's a word, but I like it anway!)... I think its a bit of an aggressive tone/day because of the host challenge.

Kate wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:See, there's that incredible agressiveness again. "either you're with me or you're against me" stuff, and that sort of "Vote Droopy or you're his teammate" stuff does not fly in Dharmaville baby.

Luckily what I'm selling, sells in Kateville. Honeypie.

I lol'd

DharmaHelper wrote:In fact now I'm very certain I'm not going to be voting Droopy today, if we're wheeling out the "Vote Droopy or you're a Baddie" posters. Never really been one to follow "Dear Leader"


Of course he could be a baddie, but as the song goes, he's not the only one.

So, as it stands I'll be voting INH.

INH, huh? Would you mind explaining this vote. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but I missed a couple of days worth of mafia concentration and I haven't seen a case on him yet....or if I did, I was under the influence and don't remember.

Also, I can see the hesitance you have in not voting for Droopy....this is why I'm interested in seeing your reasoning behind an INH vote because INH is usually a pretty easy lynch....meaning it's always easy to find reasons to vote for him....sometimes he's good and sometimes he's bad.

And how do you feel about Vompatti?

Vomp is strange, but I feel like it's almost on purpose strange.

Unfortunately, if he's civ and posting the way he has been all game, it doesn't help us in the slightest bit. I think it is more likely he's bad though. I haven't seen a single actual explanation for one of his votes, which can happen because people can't help but know their teammates are bad and it's harder to see anybody else as such. Just too many pings this game

votes vompatti

As for INH:


His eagerness to complete the first challenge bugged me, as I've said a million times. Rabbit defended INH's actions and poked at Epig for something less suspect IMO, which pinged me again, and since then INH's posts have been very non-participatory for the most part, mostly joking around etc etc, and his vote for bea was odd as well.

He mentions Epig and axxon's early vote as freaking him out, then jumps on the bea vote with one post saying that bea is his "strongest suspicion" but not giving specifics. Since then it's been mostly the jokey aloof posts I mentioned.

His vote for a baddie after a near-slip was odd?

DharmaHelper wrote:In fact now I'm very certain I'm not going to be voting Droopy today, if we're wheeling out the "Vote Droopy or you're a Baddie" posters. Never really been one to follow "Dear Leader"


Of course he could be a baddie, but as the song goes, he's not the only one.

So, as it stands I'll be voting INH.

Not sure if that was in response to me or not, but I certainly wasn't saying that if you don't vote for Droopy then you're a baddie.

With 3 baddie teams that'd be a silly thing to think and say.

Flyin' High wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:In fact now I'm very certain I'm not going to be voting Droopy today, if we're wheeling out the "Vote Droopy or you're a Baddie" posters. Never really been one to follow "Dear Leader"


Of course he could be a baddie, but as the song goes, he's not the only one.

So, as it stands I'll be voting INH.

Not sure if that was in response to me or not, but I certainly wasn't saying that if you don't vote for Droopy then you're a baddie.

With 3 baddie teams that'd be a silly thing to think and say.

That was @ Kate

triceratopzeuhl wrote:His vote for a baddie after a near-slip was odd?

Yes, his nonspecific post and vote were odd IMO.