The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:09 pm i think herm is town

Thank you for your support!

Now, take SPF's bet!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:10 pm not sure why the plan was for jules to protect alison when im also obviously protecting alison over mac or spf. w/e on that too

the plan was for me to protect radishes which I did

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:13 pm If Radishes was the one I notified, I assume dyachei could've tracked me there??? My role is not gonna clarify this however lol.

if you are town and your role does not clarify that then its a bastard role and im gonna be very insistant on that

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:09 pm i think herm is town

ted do you some info? I'm asking because you put it in italics.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:10 pm not sure why the plan was for jules to protect alison when im also obviously protecting alison over mac or spf. w/e on that too

the plan was for me to protect radishes which I did

thats alright remember earlier i spoke about my brain cells leaking

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:18 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:13 pm If Radishes was the one I notified, I assume dyachei could've tracked me there??? My role is not gonna clarify this however lol.

if you are town and your role does not clarify that then its a bastard role and im gonna be very insistant on that

So, if Herm did end up on Radishes but didn't kill him he must have a town role unless I was role blocked. Dya would have still seen him. But I can't see any way for us to prove he ended up on Radishes because he was notifying him and it seems weird that the notification would require a visit. Isn't notification a host thing?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:19 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:10 pm not sure why the plan was for jules to protect alison when im also obviously protecting alison over mac or spf. w/e on that too

the plan was for me to protect radishes which I did

thats alright remember earlier i spoke about my brain cells leaking

believe me tutuu, I know the feeling!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:18 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:13 pm If Radishes was the one I notified, I assume dyachei could've tracked me there??? My role is not gonna clarify this however lol.

if you are town and your role does not clarify that then its a bastard role and im gonna be very insistant on that

Hang on. I could ask.

I visit people I notify.

I just clarified.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:28 pm I visit people I notify.

I just clarified.

Ok thanks Herm.

why would odd immediately assume i was lying?

[VOTE: Samusamu] aubergine

Moved my vote there for now.

We are running out of a lynch pool lol.

i bet u notified hally too and u happened to visit them on the night of their death damn what an unfortunate coincidence

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:29 pm why would odd immediately assume i was lying?

he said he has some mech info he cant disclose. i didnt rly get it. something made him super believe herm is town

final paranoia vent:

is sloonei the type of person to put godfathers in a closed game? most ppl would consider that bastard but not everyone seems to think its bastard and i dont rly know sloonei

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:30 pmWe are running out of a lynch pool lol.

This I believe you on. =p

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 pm final paranoia vent:

is sloonei the type of person to put godfathers in a closed game? most ppl would consider that bastard but not everyone seems to think its bastard and i dont rly know sloonei

Godfather is not bastard, it's pretty normal to me at least. /shrug

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 pm final paranoia vent:

is sloonei the type of person to put godfathers in a closed game? most ppl would consider that bastard but not everyone seems to think its bastard and i dont rly know sloonei

Godfather is not bastard, it's pretty normal to me at least. /shrug

emphasis on in a closed game

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:33 pmemphasis on in a closed game

Yeah, I read that. I still think it's normal. But still only speculation.

99% of the games I play have had a closed setup, and I have seen all kinds of roles imaginable.

The things bastard from my POV is a Firefighter with no Arsonist, or a Cop who scans opposite.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:32 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:30 pmWe are running out of a lynch pool lol.

This I believe you on. =p

I am more believing Herm could be town now that I know he visits the person who is notified and MR's song was on the album he submitted. So, I'm likely to move my vote but certainly not to dya. I still want to think about this a little bit though.

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm 99% of the games I play have had a closed setup, and I have seen all kinds of roles imaginable.

The things bastard from my POV is a Firefighter with no Arsonist, or a Cop who scans opposite.

so for u

insane cop = bastard
godfather = not bastard

ergo

cop who peeks green on mafia = bastard
cop who peeks green on mafia = not bastard

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:41 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm 99% of the games I play have had a closed setup, and I have seen all kinds of roles imaginable.

The things bastard from my POV is a Firefighter with no Arsonist, or a Cop who scans opposite.

so for u

insane cop = bastard
godfather = not bastard

ergo

cop who peeks green on mafia = bastard
cop who peeks green on mafia = not bastard

Yes? =p

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:41 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm 99% of the games I play have had a closed setup, and I have seen all kinds of roles imaginable.

The things bastard from my POV is a Firefighter with no Arsonist, or a Cop who scans opposite.

so for u

insane cop = bastard
godfather = not bastard

ergo

cop who peeks green on mafia = bastard
cop who peeks green on mafia = not bastard

Correct, but Godfather is usually put in games when there's a Town Vigilante + 3P Serial Killer.

We're just used to different types of games.

Town Watcher is the strongest role in the entire universe how do you respond to this taunt Herm. Are you going to let me openwolf like that in your face or are you going to talk back?

So if Herm is scum then Oddmerta is 100% his partner.

It's really really weird if a host notification about a player checking an album randomly goes to only one town member on the album, IF there's no bad guys on the album, AND it results in a positive trackable visit.

That convoluted mess is far too crazy for me to believe, sorry Herm. I've been playing for 15 years, and I have never seen such a bizarre, convoluted role.

[mention]Herm[/mention] Every day I wake up covered in my Town Watcher rolecard that I use to Watch other people as they also Watch me as well we all Town Watch each other simultaneously, sometimes I roll weaker roles like Unlimited Shot Town Bulletproof or Town Bus Driver or Town Day Vig but they're just bland compared to being a Town Watcher. Do you like Watching Herm? Wanna Watch me? [mention]Herm[/mention]

Herm is lock town from my perspective, I don't mind sticking my neck out here

I forgot about spf's claim that they know Herm to be wolf 100%. There was no "maybe" or "probably" - it was 100%.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:55 pm @Herm Every day I wake up covered in my Town Watcher rolecard that I use to Watch other people as they also Watch me as well we all Town Watch each other simultaneously, sometimes I roll weaker roles like Unlimited Shot Town Bulletproof or Town Bus Driver or Town Day Vig but they're just bland compared to being a Town Watcher. Do you like Watching Herm? Wanna Watch me? @Herm

???????

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm Herm is lock town from my perspective, I don't mind sticking my neck out here

What do you make of spf's claim?

Flip now tbh tbh

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:57 pm I forgot about spf's claim that they know Herm to be wolf 100%. There was no "maybe" or "probably" - it was 100%.

Her "info" is wrong.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:58 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm Herm is lock town from my perspective, I don't mind sticking my neck out here

What do you make of spf's claim?

Can you please quote it for me?

No idea what that info is though?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:17 pm not that it matters at this point but i also have information that 100% confirms herm being scum, it's not up for debate at this point

Here!

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:01 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:58 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:56 pm Herm is lock town from my perspective, I don't mind sticking my neck out here

What do you make of spf's claim?

Can you please quote it for me?

yes.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:17 pm not that it matters at this point but i also have information that 100% confirms herm being scum, it's not up for debate at this point

[mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] can you clarify at all what your info is?

Well weird things have been happening like tim rbing ted but dys getting a track and wilgy tracking jpic to tutuu but no post cap happening

But a 100% call is interesting, spf can't claim so it's going to be wifom to argue over it

I'm not sure I understand what the point is of giving a town player whose song is on an album the information that the album contains no wolf songs. What is a random townie supposed to do with that information? Or am I misunderstanding?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 pm I'm not sure I understand what the point is of giving a town player whose song is on an album the information that the album contains no wolf songs. What is a random townie supposed to do with that information? Or am I misunderstanding?

i dont think there is utility to it

something that might be mildly relevant:

jules visited MR last night, and she stops non-civilian non-lethal powers. not only does she stop them (i assume roleblocks them), but she also prevents those people from visiting. as if they never visited in the first place (for the purposes of watchers/trackers) (thats how this game works)

probably doesnt mean anything cuz herm still could have simply killed, but herm couldnt have done anything else to MR. if MR was alive to give a night report it could have been interesting

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 pm I'm not sure I understand what the point is of giving a town player whose song is on an album the information that the album contains no wolf songs. What is a random townie supposed to do with that information? Or am I misunderstanding?

It would be super useful if it was true. We just all claim what album we belong to, and then pick off scum. I'm sure it's not completely asymmetrical, there's probably like 3 in each album or something. However, we should not do that, since narrowing down songs might not be a good idea. And Herm is absolutely not telling the truth here. It makes no sense what so ever that you would randomly notify one, but just one, person, and that will count as an action. That's so far fetched I can't even. So that's a lie created to explain away Dya's track. Mind you that Herm later votes Dya and says he thinks Dya is lying about the track. But you know...

I'm just waiting for the flip at this point. We have a lot of town power still to go around, so we should wrap up the mafia pretty quickly. Don't know about the dreaded 3p.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:38 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:36 pm there is some scenario in which herm's ability is seen as a visit to every person from the album they check

in that case dya would have tracked herm to both MR and oddmerta

good point. back to herm being lockscum

i can't get past the coincidence of MR and hally both dying the night they were checked tbh

it's possible mafia kills were blocked both nights and herm was the 3P using some strongman shit to murder people

for herm to be innocent, their role would have to visit all the people they check, and then also coincidentally check hally and MR the days they died

this seems really unlikely

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am There's a song on King of Limbs that I wanted checked for reasons I can't reveal but Herm is saying no scum on the album

this false checks herm as false -- he said there were only two people on King of Limbs or that he assumed that there were only two -- the only other person on the album is presumably herm

whatever I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm fine with chop herm and blame SPF if it goes wrong. I don't have any objection to this as I did with Tim

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] prob time to start thinking about who to target with your vote?

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:09 pm @Dyslexicon prob time to start thinking about who to target with your vote?

Yeah, any ideas? I'm assuming Herm will flip mafia, so tracking will be copping at that point. /baring unknowns.