The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:12 pm**

Maybe Dom has been getting drunk the last week

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:15 pm**

no red this sunday...

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:20 pm**

dom is not a priority to me but if he continues to not post he should never endgame

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:32 pm**

I'm targeting AL_sama if I'm going for one of the low-posting slots herel

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:32 pm**

The letter l is now punctuation.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:36 pm**

Let’s target the two lowest posters and then stop there.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:37 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm falcon, i’m just trying to understand what was going on in your head and why you voted how you did. it’s not an accusation

I found them both scummy, and having Alison and Straw on TSP made me more comfortable with that wagon.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:37 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:09 pm falcon, i’m just trying to understand what was going on in your head and why you voted how you did. it’s not an accusation
I found them both scummy, and having Alison and Straw on TSP made me more comfortable with that wagon.

i don’t believe you. if this was the reason i think you would have just said it when i asked initially

also, the al wagon had me (presumed mason), michelle (claimed cop) and ted (peeked clear) on it. if wagon composition was the main factor in your decision, surely you would have chosen al over tony?

also since when do you trust alison that much? i thought you were still skeptical of her

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 pm D2 -
Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:48 pm**

I trust the AL_sama wagon much more than the TSP wagon at a glance.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:48 pm**

Esooa wagon locktown.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:49 pm**

i kinda think falcon just straight up lied tbh

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:55 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:49 pm i kinda think falcon just straight up lied tbh

D1
flashwagon Alison

D2
I will vote with Alison

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:56 pm**

where can I find the votes?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:57 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:56 pm where can I find the votes?

there's a vote count thread in the subforum

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:56 pm where can I find the votes?

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=2

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm**

thanks

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:56 pm where can I find the votes?

Iso me and search for the spoilers.
I have many saved VCs, less than usual but you can work with them

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:49 pm i kinda think falcon just straight up lied tbh

With this conclusion i think this night was productive

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:48 pm I trust the AL_sama wagon much more than the TSP wagon at a glance.

everyone has a mech claim or is SPF who seems like town to me

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:01 pm**

I'm feeling Hally's "falcon is just lying" argument.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 pm D2 -
Spoiler: show

falcon is saying he voted tony because he liked tony’s wagon composition better

tony’s wagon nook, lc and splints on it, all people in falcon’s poe

al_sama’s wagon has nobody in falcon’s poe and three presumed mech clears

falcon is saying he voted tony based on wagon composition when wagon composition should have led him to vote al

this doesn’t compute

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm**

this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:05 pm**

is mafia considered a violent video game

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:05 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch

Welcome! Do you have any thoughts relating to this game?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:07 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 pm D2 -
Spoiler: show

falcon is saying he voted tony because he liked tony’s wagon composition better

tony’s wagon nook, lc and splints on it, all people in falcon’s poe

al_sama’s wagon has nobody in falcon’s poe and three presumed mech clears

falcon is saying he voted tony based on wagon composition when wagon composition should have led him to vote al

this doesn’t compute

The juiciest read in all of Fargo.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm**

mech clear in a novas game I don't know what to feel abut that

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm mech clear in a novas game I don't know what to feel abut that

say more

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:10 pm**

hally just destroyed falcon with facts and logic

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:11 pm**

falcon more like frozen

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:12 pm**

i'm not sold on falcon being scum. the whole wagon thing made me lose a lot of trust in him this game though.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm mech clear in a novas game I don't know what to feel abut that

Please come back and explain. Is that abnormal for a nova game?

Also any other thoughts you have.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm**

to be clear, i don’t really think what i just said re: falcon is a smoking gun really

generally wolves are better about being consistent amd avoiding blatant contradictions and lies

but i really dislike that falcon initially refused to explain himself and then when he did he presented an explanation that makes no sense

i think falcon voted al_sama EoD1 so it’s curious to me that he would vote tony EoD2 over al_sama for dubious reasons. i don’t know what this means

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:17 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:05 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch
Welcome! Do you have any thoughts relating to this game?

not really I m confused with all these back and forth

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:17 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm to be clear, i don’t really think what i just said re: falcon is a smoking gun really

generally wolves are better about being consistent amd avoiding blatant contradictions and lies

but i really dislike that falcon initially refused to explain himself and then when he did he presented an explanation that makes no sense

i think falcon voted al_sama EoD1 so it’s curious to me that he would vote tony EoD2 over al_sama for dubious reasons. i don’t know what this means

It is still juicy

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:18 pm**

@falcon45ca can you do something to reassure me you’re not just making stuff up?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:18 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:05 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch
Welcome! Do you have any thoughts relating to this game?
not really I m confused with all these back and forth

Why do you think we shouldn’t be mech clearing people? Who shouldn’t be mech cleared?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:23 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm mech clear in a novas game I don't know what to feel abut that
Please come back and explain. Is that abnormal for a nova game?

Also any other thoughts you have.

novas always uses lots of stuff to mislead mechanics so its hard to fully trust a mech clear claim

I m too confused to make any reads

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm**

there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?

cause it's obvious when he's scum and he isn't obvious scum

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:18 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:05 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch
Welcome! Do you have any thoughts relating to this game?
not really I m confused with all these back and forth
Why do you think we shouldn’t be mech clearing people? Who shouldn’t be mech cleared?

just answered above

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?

For me it was he started scumhunting early in a way that felt genuine, so I mentally marked him down as v and haven’t questioned that read until now, probably because he was town read by all and I was focused elsewhere.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:31 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:23 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm
AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:09 pm mech clear in a novas game I don't know what to feel abut that
Please come back and explain. Is that abnormal for a nova game?

Also any other thoughts you have.
novas always uses lots of stuff to mislead mechanics so its hard to fully trust a mech clear claim

I m too confused to make any reads

So far we have a player who is presumed to be a mason with a dead civilian.
A player who has claimed to be a treestump with some slight verification.
A player who claims mechanical/flavor knowledge of other roles, in such a way that appears likely to be a civilian.
A player who claims mech info on another player which clears that second player.

Which of those should be trusted or not trusted?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:31 pm**

Who said TSP could be partner with Marnot? Reading Marmot's Iso I don't find this idea

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?
cause it's obvious when he's scum and he isn't obvious scum

Counterpoint: multiball
Counterpoint: players make adjustments

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:34 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:31 pm Who said TSP could be partner with Marnot? Reading Marmot's Iso I don't find this idea

@fingersplints maybe? I do remember one person saying that, but most of us were saying the opposite.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:36 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm this is awfully funny I m barely even active

anyways hey vig san just shoot me its better then wasting a lynch

Can you be active, instead?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:37 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?
cause it's obvious when he's scum and he isn't obvious scum
Counterpoint: multiball
Counterpoint: players make adjustments

day 1 he wasn't obvious scum. that was before multiball. falcon has been playing this way without error over the past year.

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:38 pm**

Also, Al, if you read the game, and you know what happened, maybe just making that trustfall exercise may help you form some reads

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:38 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:15 pm to be clear, i don’t really think what i just said re: falcon is a smoking gun really

generally wolves are better about being consistent amd avoiding blatant contradictions and lies

but i really dislike that falcon initially refused to explain himself and then when he did he presented an explanation that makes no sense

i think falcon voted al_sama EoD1 so it’s curious to me that he would vote tony EoD2 over al_sama for dubious reasons. i don’t know what this means

Meh. I think it's absurdly redundant to have to explain voting within one's own POE, but maybe that's just me.

My take on Alison has changed as the game as gone on, and I've clearly said that as well. Frankly KZA has slipped from a town lean for me, as he appears to be the most oppurtunistic regarding my read change.

If he's scum I'm gonna be very disappointed in him, cuz his crybaby "Imma quit cuz I'm being sussed" is a huge part of why I moved off him.

Why if I'm wolf do I expose myself with a switch off Al? Who really sees a team with Al & I on it?

Posted: **Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:39 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:37 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:33 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 pm there was a point in the game where falcon was widely v read. what was the reason for that?
cause it's obvious when he's scum and he isn't obvious scum
Counterpoint: multiball
Counterpoint: players make adjustments
day 1 he wasn't obvious scum. that was before multiball. falcon has been playing this way without error over the past year.

What do you mean “before multiball”? The mafia teams would presumably know it’s multiball from the start. Marmot seemed to.

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