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Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:56 pm**

[VOTE: made] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:56 pm If you think I'd poison bunny you're out of your mind.

why is that?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:49 pm Big List of Claims for the Soup Killer
Alison - Vote Enhancer
Allcrab - Conditional watcher
Garden Gnome - Homewrecker Casual Lover w/ Jay
Guillotine - Mason w/ Nanook
JaggedJimmyJay - Casual Lover w/ Gnome
lost monkey - Jack of all Trades
MacDougall - N/A
Made - N/A
MartinGG99 - Healer
NANOOK - Mason w/ Guillotine
Sloonei - Backup-turned-desperado
TonyStarkPrime - N/A, but confirmed Not Mafia

I'm poisoned. Why would I be soup killed, too. It's just making me not want food anymore, lol.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm**

@Guillotine @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what if you guys are the dreaded bastard masons where one of you is mafia?

Discuss.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm**

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:49 pm Big List of Claims for the Soup Killer
Alison - Vote Enhancer
Allcrab - Conditional watcher
Garden Gnome - Homewrecker Casual Lover w/ Jay
Guillotine - Mason w/ Nanook
JaggedJimmyJay - Casual Lover w/ Gnome
lost monkey - Jack of all Trades
MacDougall - N/A
Made - N/A
MartinGG99 - Healer
NANOOK - Mason w/ Guillotine
Sloonei - Backup-turned-desperado
TonyStarkPrime - N/A, but confirmed Not Mafia

I'm poisoned. Why would I be soup killed, too. It's just making me not want food anymore, lol.

I promise I didn't poison you. Pat pat.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:52 pm Wow look at that. Made and Mac last to claim.

I'll claim mine if you claim yours

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:55 pm And to be fair, yesterday I pushed cleared players lmao. The first player I iso'd today way Allcrab, Ur not reading my post sloonei

You asked a question about whether Allcrab was cleared and offered no follow-up.

RE: Martin, I also feel like his reaction to Hawk's roleclaim on Day 3 looked authentic. I do not know whether or not Mafia Martin reacts as strongly as he did there, but my guess is that he does not.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:52 pm Wow look at that. Made and Mac last to claim.
I'll claim mine if you claim yours

I am a 2 shot orgasm giver

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

To Those saying that im unpleasant to play with.

There is always to sides to the story.

Adiós.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

Thats right. I can give you 2 orgasms.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:56 pm If you think I'd poison bunny you're out of your mind.
why is that?

From just a me PoV she's the one I enjoy playing with most.

From a strategic PoV she'd continue to vouch for me.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:56 pm If you think I'd poison bunny you're out of your mind.
why is that?
From just a me PoV she's the one I enjoy playing with most.

From a strategic PoV she'd continue to vouch for me.

meh

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:00 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:49 pm Big List of Claims for the Soup Killer
Alison - Vote Enhancer
Allcrab - Conditional watcher
Garden Gnome - Homewrecker Casual Lover w/ Jay
Guillotine - Mason w/ Nanook
JaggedJimmyJay - Casual Lover w/ Gnome
lost monkey - Jack of all Trades
MacDougall - N/A
Made - N/A
MartinGG99 - Healer
NANOOK - Mason w/ Guillotine
Sloonei - Backup-turned-desperado
TonyStarkPrime - N/A, but confirmed Not Mafia

I'm poisoned. Why would I be soup killed, too. It's just making me not want food anymore, lol.
I promise I didn't poison you. Pat pat.

*turns green*

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:00 pm**

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:00 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:49 pm Big List of Claims for the Soup Killer
Alison - Vote Enhancer
Allcrab - Conditional watcher
Garden Gnome - Homewrecker Casual Lover w/ Jay
Guillotine - Mason w/ Nanook
JaggedJimmyJay - Casual Lover w/ Gnome
lost monkey - Jack of all Trades
MacDougall - N/A
Made - N/A
MartinGG99 - Healer
NANOOK - Mason w/ Guillotine
Sloonei - Backup-turned-desperado
TonyStarkPrime - N/A, but confirmed Not Mafia

I'm poisoned. Why would I be soup killed, too. It's just making me not want food anymore, lol.
I promise I didn't poison you. Pat pat.
*turns green*

Naww sweetie

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:02 pm**

Come to think of the poisoner is Martin.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:02 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:55 pm And to be fair, yesterday I pushed cleared players lmao. The first player I iso'd today way Allcrab, Ur not reading my post sloonei
You asked a question about whether Allcrab was cleared and offered no follow-up.

RE: Martin, I also feel like his reaction to Hawk's roleclaim on Day 3 looked authentic. I do not know whether or not Mafia Martin reacts as strongly as he did there, but my guess is that he does not.

I mean it's probably dishonest to call what i'm doing isoing, I'm kinda just hopping around thread following my nose. I don't know the exact steps that go me from Allcrab to reading Martin's iso, but I probably telegraphed it. The thoughts I'm having are the thoughts i'm saying.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:03 pm**

like isn't it just quite obviously him?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:04 pm**

claim weird... healer bait.... kinda weird posts but scum solving so getting Alison meta solve.

Yeah its just him.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:06 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm @Guillotine @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what if you guys are the dreaded bastard masons where one of you is mafia?

Discuss.

I confirmed that masons does in fact mean masons and guillo is confirmed town

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm @Guillotine @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what if you guys are the dreaded bastard masons where one of you is mafia?

Discuss.
I confirmed that masons does in fact mean masons and guillo is confirmed town

lol I was only joking

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm @Guillotine @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what if you guys are the dreaded bastard masons where one of you is mafia?

Discuss.
I confirmed that masons does in fact mean masons and guillo is confirmed town
lol I was only joking

I wasn't

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:08 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:06 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:58 pm @Guillotine @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what if you guys are the dreaded bastard masons where one of you is mafia?

Discuss.
I confirmed that masons does in fact mean masons and guillo is confirmed town
lol I was only joking
I wasn't

fun times

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:09 pm**

@TonyStarkPrime did you target Gnome with anything last night? If so you don't need to tell me what it was, I just need a yes or no.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:10 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:23 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am By the way if there's a poison healer out there they should heal Alison.
I just saw this and realized if wolves poisoned Alison that's a pretty weird choice to poison someone on nutella's wagon, they must like not be worried about a healer at all.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm Nobody targeted mac last night.

Figured poisoner MO was to go after people on the fringe of the PoE which was kinda right they were a bit more direct than I expected and I guessed wrong, sorry.

And yeah I am trying to get poisoner identity over wolves cuz that's gonna be WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY harder to get if we gotta do it the old fashioned way.

I wanna vote martin today but out of respect for Alison's read I'll try made first.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm
Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:56 pm If you think I'd poison bunny you're out of your mind.
why is that?
From just a me PoV she's the one I enjoy playing with most.

From a strategic PoV she'd continue to vouch for me.

I don't think Allcrab is completely out of the question with 3P. Engages with the poison concept only when it benefits him.

He was also basically absent the entirety of D3.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 4:49 pm 1. Heal bunny
2. lol told you hawk was village
3. Will be around later.
4. probably lynch act lol.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:17 am
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:20 am I don’t like the claims because both are safe. Martin claimed healer when obviously there would be a healer. Two town healers doesn’t make sense, and I recognize red herring roles apparently exist, but still...I don’t feel good about Martin’s claim.

Allcrab claimed the exact role as LoMo which is safe. He can just parrot whatever LoMo said. Allcrab claimed same role then switched to unlimited. How many red herring roles would a game have before the game could become unbalanced? I honestly don’t know mech, but I just feel like this is a stretch. I do not think we have two watchers.

@Guillotine, what do you think of Allcrab and Martin?

Their extremely limited discussion of heals and healers is concerning as well given that I'm one of their top suspects.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:12 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:02 pm Come to think of the poisoner is Martin.

With assuming 2 mafia and 3P in [Mac, Made, Martin, Allcrab]

The game could end that way however it wants and town would be safe.

You probably have to convince the thread that, when I'm flip town, who else it is and that it must absolutely be outside of that group.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:13 pm**

im pooping

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:13 pm**

Ignoring that both you and made are the current most likely mafia suspects

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm**

Correction

> : p

There.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm**

I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record

come on guy

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:13 pm Ignoring that both you and made are the current most likely mafia suspects

from my perspective I am the least likely actually

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record
come on guy

It's a small pool of suspects.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm**

Hmmm.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record
come on guy
It's a small pool of suspects.

Yes well I am town and sleepwalking to me/made is gonna end up bad if you don't put some thought into other possibilities ahead of time.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:19 pm**

I am fine with being suspected and chopped but if I go down with no leads I'm gonna be pretty anxious about town's chances.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:19 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record
come on guy
It's a small pool of suspects.
Yes well I am town and sleepwalking to me/made is gonna end up bad if you don't put some thought into other possibilities ahead of time.

How would you rank the claims in terms of believability/confirmed-ness?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 pm**

@Esooa
has replaced @Guillotine

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:21 pm**

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:22 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm I put a vote on Made but quickly changed it to Mac in the interest of keeping the thread close for the time being. So uh [VOTE: mac] aubergine for the aubergine record
come on guy
It's a small pool of suspects.
Yes well I am town and sleepwalking to me/made is gonna end up bad if you don't put some thought into other possibilities ahead of time.
How would you rank the claims in terms of believability/confirmed-ness?

Martin's is obviously the worst. Could be some weirdness around Alison's vote manip but I kinda glazed over it.

The rest are plausible if not outright obviously real. The lovers and masons are real so that's 4.

The only claims that disqualify themselves from poisoner are the masons and lovers though.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:23 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:20 pm @Esooa
has replaced @Guillotine

Lmao

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:23 pm**

@Esooa what is your read on Nanook?

@MartinGG99 could you please write a few sentences just talking about your broad perspective of Alison in this game?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:24 pm**

@Esooa how does it feel to be a confirmed townie with a living mason partner subbing in day 5 of a town stomp?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:24 pm**

I wish wouldn’t treat one another like crap.

Anyway glad to have you aboard Esooa.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:24 pm I wish wouldn’t treat one another like crap.

Anyway glad to have you aboard Esooa.

I dunno if that is an accurate appraisal of what occurred.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:25 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:22 pm Martin's is obviously the worst. Could be some weirdness around Alison's vote manip but I kinda glazed over it.

The rest are plausible if not outright obviously real. The lovers and masons are real so that's 4.

The only claims that disqualify themselves from poisoner are the masons and lovers though.

Mostly agreed. I feel like my claim should be excluded from poisoner contention because my killing action was publicly verified, but that's whatever and I have no reason to make a fuss about it.

I have trouble seeing Alison as mafia. It is not impossible, but I have trouble seeing it right now. Martin is a town read, but he is a viable mafia candidate if you and/or Made are town. I have not loved Made's push on Martin today.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:23 pm @Esooa what is your read on Nanook?

@MartinGG99 could you please write a few sentences just talking about your broad perspective of Alison in this game?

nice try bitch

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:27 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:23 pm @Esooa what is your read on Nanook?

@MartinGG99 could you please write a few sentences just talking about your broad perspective of Alison in this game?

I think Alison handles D2 and D3 differently. Strikes me as an incredible odd time for her to go inactive as mafia.

Thanks to some "help" on N1 that we all know about, she obviously can't be the poisoner at all. I don't think or believe for a single second that poisoners can self-target; I'm 101% sure that I couldn't self-target if I was poisoned.

Gut-wise has been feeling not mafia early on, and brain-wise since D3/early-D4 it's been very hard to see a world with her in it.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:28 pm**

Also I've been wanting to be chill on paranoia since....uh....my last game with Alison.

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:34 pm**

@Esooa why Made?

Posted: **Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:36 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:34 pm @Esooa why Made?

nanook is voting him

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