The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:35 pm**

ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:29 am Ok I’m just gonna self hammer.
Not lying when I said I messaged Sloon though I really did it’s just my wolf buds thought it was funny to kill them and piss me off.
I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.
@Alison If you have a shot left, shoot Kyle.

@Seanzie ok this one I can point out because ChopChop did concede.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:39 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:35 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:29 am Ok I’m just gonna self hammer.
Not lying when I said I messaged Sloon though I really did it’s just my wolf buds thought it was funny to kill them and piss me off.
I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.
@Alison If you have a shot left, shoot Kyle.

@Seanzie ok this one I can point out because ChopChop did concede.

Yes, Chopchop is outed wolf. Is there something specific you want me to see in that post? Because idk what it is.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:40 pm**

I thought you just called Chop town?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:40 pm**

Oh, you were talking about Urist, I must have misread.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:40 pm**

Ambiguous pronouns, etc

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:42 pm**

Hey so can I count on the thread generally to kill Hubologists? I think I need them all dead to win?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:43 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:42 pm Hey so can I count on the thread generally to kill Hubologists? I think I need them all dead to win?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm**

What are the chances that chop chop and Tony are just engaged in massive distancing all game? Chop's single-minded insistence on Tony's death approach the level of comical unbelievability.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm**

What I meant to say in response was: You kinda need to help us kill Enclave too you know, LC.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm**

I thought he was talking about Chop too.

Nice of two wolves to concede this game. Been a real time saver for me tbh.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:45 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm What are the chances that chop chop and Tony are just engaged in massive distancing all game? Chop's single-minded insistence on Tony's death approach the level of comical unbelievability.

This possibility crossed my mind, and considering we know nothing (I think) about Tony's role makes it more possible.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:46 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:40 pm I thought you just called Chop town?

Oh!!! I quoted the wrong post there... gimme one second and I will quote the right post.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:47 pm**

@Marmot I meant to quote this post by you here:

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:22 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:04 pm @Seanzie

Sure, I was kind of thinking something similar, but why is it clear Urist isn't scum here? If scum gets blocked, it would make sense for one of them to claim a protection to get some benefit out of the blocked shot. I don't understand why you are going out of your way to stop me from talking to them directly.
Who is blocking fatal actions here?
Not sure, but there are many roles that theoretically could have blocked or protected and idk if all of them would want to out themselves when they don't have to. There are universes where you are town, protected Epi, and weren't the reason why there was no NK, so them outing wouldn't be a "gotcha" out, which means they might stay quiet.

Have you poisoned anyone? If so, who? If not, why not?
Not going to claim any more of my role without my lawyer present a massclaim.
But you protected Nook and Epi, right?

Oh that's right, he can't be the role I thought he was then.

When I said this:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:34 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:30 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:27 pm FTR, how long were people holding off on yeeting ChopChop because they thought he might be the only BoS member and ergo locktown?

I figured his role would eventually resolve itself, and it finally has.
One issue I have is that he seems to have been extremely skeptical of my slots claim, which would maybe make sense if he was what you were thinking, but that doesn't jive with other things he has said. I am still kind of thinking he is just town, but him trying to get us to vote Alison doesn't sit well with me, especially again, with the fact that he probably isn't what you were thinking.

That was meant to be about Urist, not Chop, sorry.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm**

But seriously, imagine reading the setup.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm**

The only town role that opposes Slaver and can protect twice is ACE of BoS, but Since VC is dead, the Slaver is not a threat to them.

I believe what you're saying sean is that Urist has claimed to protect twice, which is not possible if he's town.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm But seriously, imagine reading the setup.

I think I’ve pinpointed why I haven’t finished a serious mafia setup since Fire Emblem in 2018.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm The only town role that opposes Slaver and can protect twice is ACE of BoS, but Since VC is dead, the Slaver is not a threat to them.

I believe what you're saying sean is that Urist has claimed to protect twice, which is not possible if he's town.

Who is VC? I don't see any dead BoS in the list of dead people.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm**

Did Chop ever make a case on Tony? I feel like I asked once and he got mad at me but I’m reading his posts and it’s like boomers on Facebook blaming everything on Antifa.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm**

Or even if that's not what you're saying, that's what I'm seeing here.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:54 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm The only town role that opposes Slaver and can protect twice is ACE of BoS, but Since VC is dead, the Slaver is not a threat to them.

I believe what you're saying sean is that Urist has claimed to protect twice, which is not possible if he's town.
Who is VC? I don't see any dead BoS in the list of dead people.

Vault City. Iirc, Mac and Esooa. They’re dead though.

Kyle claimed BoS.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:54 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm The only town role that opposes Slaver and can protect twice is ACE of BoS, but Since VC is dead, the Slaver is not a threat to them.

I believe what you're saying sean is that Urist has claimed to protect twice, which is not possible if he's town.
Who is VC? I don't see any dead BoS in the list of dead people.

VC = Vault City

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:54 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:53 pm Did Chop ever make a case on Tony? I feel like I asked once and he got mad at me but I’m reading his posts and it’s like boomers on Facebook blaming everything on Antifa.

Tony was Antifa all along.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm But seriously, imagine reading the setup.
I think I’ve pinpointed why I haven’t finished a serious mafia setup since Fire Emblem in 2018.

i never read the fire emblem setup tbh. probably why wolves won.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:45 am @mods most active topic only works for people with less than 5000 posts. fix please

I’ll get right on it.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:42 pm Hey so can I count on the thread generally to kill Hubologists? I think I need them all dead to win?

nah just all of them but one and considering grogu and marmot can't both be the same thing I think you're good

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm**

Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm But seriously, imagine reading the setup.
I think I’ve pinpointed why I haven’t finished a serious mafia setup since Fire Emblem in 2018.
i never read the fire emblem setup tbh. probably why wolves won.

It was really good. Probably the best thing I ever designed. I just haven’t been able to make 3 Houses fit the format because classes are so similar.

I’m pretty sure nobody read the flavor so I included sex scenes.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm What are the chances that chop chop and Tony are just engaged in massive distancing all game? Chop's single-minded insistence on Tony's death approach the level of comical unbelievability.

obviously something something but my personal guess is chop was just locked in antispew ever since he scumslipped at the beginning of day 2 and thus couldn't/wouldn't make any new reads

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?

pretty sure he's the ncr thing

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?

Explain it in a way that I don’t have to dig though spoilers role lists, please.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:01 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
pretty sure he's the ncr thing

But why would he want Alison dead? Am I just reading too far into it?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?

you're reading way too much into the fact that i'm voting for alison. yeeting her today actually is the optimal play but i don't think anyone is listening or cares anyway.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
pretty sure he's the ncr thing

But why would he want Alison dead? Am I just reading too far into it?

Maybe he believed Falcon was lying? :wowee:

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:01 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
pretty sure he's the ncr thing

But why would he want Alison dead? Am I just reading too far into it?

alison dead today is optimal for town winning the game

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm**

i just would also like chop to be chopped

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm**

it would calm my spirit

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:03 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm it would calm my spirit

goodness if he flipped VT /now/

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:03 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
you're reading way too much into the fact that i'm voting for alison. yeeting her today actually is the optimal play but i don't think anyone is listening or cares anyway.

Isn’t yeeting her like the next time things feel like an inevitable town yeet the optimal play?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:04 pm**

Chop already claimed wolf.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:04 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:02 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:59 pm Guys, Urist is caught in a lie right now, or am I crazy?
you're reading way too much into the fact that i'm voting for alison. yeeting her today actually is the optimal play but i don't think anyone is listening or cares anyway.

Ok, maybe I am getting carried away, but I don't think yeeting someone we don't need dead is optimal here. Yes we lose a yeet if we let her use a NK on a civ (which she claimed to already use), but we lose a yeet if we use it on her, so I'd rather yeet confirmed Enclave.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:05 pm**

there are also situations where we can manipulate Alison's vote for the benefit of the town depending on runout

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:06 pm**

we don't lose a yeet by killing alison because she needs to scumside if she wants to win.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:06 pm**

no yeah urist is right

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:06 pm**

Urist, can you help clear this up, are you NCR or BoS or something else?

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:06 pm**

this pains me but vote alison

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:07 pm**

in the sense of [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:07 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:06 pm we don't lose a yeet by killing alison because she needs to scumside if she wants to win.

We do lose a yeet by killing Alison because Alison can survive and we can still win, and also Frank probably still has a shot left, so the "there are an odd number of players" argument doesn't hold water.

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:09 pm**

alison might also have a shot left

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:09 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:00 pm it smells like upgamers in here
What’s upgamers?

oh god I never thought I'd get this far uhhhhh not much oh fuck ummmm give me a minute

Posted: **Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:09 pm**

alison is, for all intents and purposes, also an outed wolf

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