The Syndicate

So it's been almost 24 hours.

My watch indicated that TSP was visited by an info role.

That's it.

Someone figure out if that catches a baddie. I'm going back to work.

So wait what results does your watch actually give you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:10 pm So wait what results does your watch actually give you?

Good question. I have no idea why this random gave me role info and the first didn't.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:30 pm

this has been my mood over the last few pages

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:30 pm

this has been my mood over the last few pages

I don't get why you felt that way about me pointing out the answer to your question that you had missed.

Ok time to cook, bbl

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:33 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:30 pm

this has been my mood over the last few pages

I don't get why you felt that way about me pointing out the answer to your question that you had missed.

ok lol

This was Alison's list that I updated. There is still missing information like Dizzy's N3 action, Samu's N3 action, ted's N3 action, etc. If you can update anything either tell me and I'll do it and repost or update and repost yourself. Things are getting complicated, I at least feel the need for a record of what's happened. Also please let me know if you see any errors. Red is for dead.

Alison - Cop (N1 TSP green, N2 nanook green, N3 LC green)

TSP - X Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Vig (N2 shot JPIC, N3 holster)

Wilgy - Conditional Tracker/Random "Watcher" (N1 one person visited ted, N2 JPIC visited tutuu, N3 - TSP visited by info role)

dyachei - Tracker (N1 nanook visited Mac, N2 ted visited nanook, N3 Herm visited MR)

Dizzy - X Shot Conditional Tracker (N1 ted visited Tim, N2 didn't meet the conditions, )

juliets - X Shot Non-Civillian, Non-Lethal Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 holster, N3 MR)

Herm - "Song Cop" (N1 Amnesiac no result, N2 Kid A no result, N3 King of Limbs) [Knows mafia role cop is In Rainbows because of Poison]

Long Con - 3 Shot Mutual Voteblocker

MacDougal - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but role "isn't strong")

Master Radishes - Universal Backup (N1 protected Alison with nutella's power, N2 checked nanook for vote manipulation with sprityo's power, N3 died)

nanook - Conditional Doublevoter (N1 visited Mac to fulfil his condition, N2 forgot to send in an action)

Oddmerta - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but isn't a vigilante)

Poison Chan - Rolecard Investigative (not sure of the specifics, but gets given a role card with alignment and song that exists in the game every night, but isn't told who the role card belongs to)(N1 checked Nude =mafia role cop, N2 checked Codex=full role card, N3 lie detected Dr. Wilgys song claim = true)

Samusamu - Song Voyeur, can only infodump if you hit no result (N1 no result on Poison Chan, N2 has a result and isn't allowed to infodump it) [@Samusamu do you only get the song name, or do you get other pieces of information about the song like the lyrics? You can tell me if you aren't allowed to answer this.]

SPF - ??? [@staypositivefriend did you make a claim? You're locktown so you don't have to if you don't want to, but if you did let me know and I'll record it.]

tedxtr - Vote Manipulation Nullifier (N1 Tim, N2 nanook, corroborated by trackers, Dizzy N1 and dyachei N2)

Timsup2nothin - Anti-Snowball Scaling PR (N1 roleblocked tedxtr, N2 gets a doublevote, Day 2 dead town)

tutuu - Jailkeeper/Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 Hally, N3 attempted Alison power did not go through)

[mention]juliets[/mention] dizzy tracked samu to tutuu

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:16 pm @juliets dizzy tracked samu to tutuu

Thank you! I'll wait a little while and see if any more corrections come in before I repost.

I just found this from Samu "I saw 2 songs on tuutuu one is a mafia song" so I guess I can put this in as his n3 claim and it matches what dizzy saw.

To be clear, his visiting tutuu matches Dizzy seeing him visit tutuu.

Where is everyone? The quiet makes me nervous that everyone is complacent. That usually doesn't end well for town.

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] can you please tell us your N3 action? and [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

Thank you for making a master list, Jules.

Some people have me as lockscum. Trying to figure out who the scum could be from the list tbh tbh.

Seeing as we had a miselim yesterday, and we're going to have another today, we need to at least figure out our path forward.

I'm gonna go and dig up posts from today from people who advocate for a quiet day, in some shaoe or form. I don't know whether these peple are scum trying to discourage scumhunting, or if they're just misinformed. Feel free to figure that out post-me lol.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:16 am I'm caught up. Nothing to say, and I think talking more might actually hurt the gamestate at this point by making it even more confusing to follow. Just mentioning this so people know where I'm at. My vote is staying on Herm.

REVISED LIST FROM POST #7660

This was Alison's list that I updated. There is still missing information like ted's N3 action, Nook's N3 action, Long Con, etc. If you can update anything tell me and I'll do it and repost. Also please let me know if you see any errors. Red is for dead.

Alison - Cop (N1 TSP green, N2 nanook green, N3 LC green)

TSP - X Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Vig (N2 shot JPIC, N3 holster)

Wilgy - Conditional Tracker/Random "Watcher" (N1 one person visited ted, N2 JPIC visited tutuu, N3 - TSP visited by info role)

dyachei - Tracker (N1 nanook visited Mac, N2 ted visited nanook, N3 Herm visited MR)

Dizzy - X Shot Conditional Tracker (N1 ted visited Tim, N2 didn't meet the conditions, N3 Samu visited tutuu)

juliets - X Shot Non-Civillian, Non-Lethal Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 holster, N3 MR)

Herm - "Song Cop" (N1 Amnesiac no result, N2 Kid A no result, N3 King of Limbs) [Knows mafia role cop is In Rainbows because of Poison]

Long Con - 3 Shot Mutual Voteblocker

MacDougal - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but role "isn't strong")

Master Radishes - Universal Backup (N1 protected Alison with nutella's power, N2 checked nanook for vote manipulation with sprityo's power, N3 died)

nanook - Conditional Doublevoter (N1 visited Mac to fulfil his condition, N2 forgot to send in an action)

Oddmerta - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but isn't a vigilante)

Poison Chan - Rolecard Investigative (not sure of the specifics, but gets given a role card with alignment and song that exists in the game every night, but isn't told who the role card belongs to)(N1 checked Nude =mafia role cop, N2 checked Codex=full role card, N3 lie detected Dr. Wilgys song claim = true)

Samusamu - Song Voyeur, can only infodump if you hit no result (N1 no result on Poison Chan, N2 has a result and isn't allowed to infodump it, N3 visits tutuu and sees 2 songs, 1 of which is a mafia song) [@Samusamu do you only get the song name, or do you get other pieces of information about the song like the lyrics? You can tell me if you aren't allowed to answer this.]

SPF - ??? [@staypositivefriend did you make a claim? You're locktown so you don't have to if you don't want to, but if you did let me know and I'll record it.]

tedxtr - Vote Manipulation Nullifier (N1 Tim, N2 nanook, corroborated by trackers, Dizzy N1 and dyachei N2)

Timsup2nothin - Anti-Snowball Scaling PR (N1 roleblocked tedxtr, N2 gets a doublevote, Day 2 dead town)

tutuu - Jailkeeper/Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 Hally, N3 attempted Alison power did not go through)

[mention]Long Con[/mention], can you tell us action on N3 for the list?

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:04 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am There's a song on King of Limbs that I wanted checked for reasons I can't reveal but Herm is saying no scum on the album

this false checks herm as false -- he said there were only two people on King of Limbs or that he assumed that there were only two -- the only other person on the album is presumably herm

I assumed there would be two, but I misremembered something about my role in this instance.

That it would be random lol.

I.
hm.
This claim is, at this point, terrible. There are three-four corrections and plot holes and similar problems. I'm inclined to believe it but the problems in the lack of a coherent story might be NAI instead of towny and if so the evidence is overwhelmingly against outside of that.

Like my instinct is Wilgy's claim is bad -> town and Herm's claim is bad -> scum

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 pm @Long Con, can you tell us action on N3 for the list?

I targeted Radishes.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:02 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:04 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:31 am There's a song on King of Limbs that I wanted checked for reasons I can't reveal but Herm is saying no scum on the album

this false checks herm as false -- he said there were only two people on King of Limbs or that he assumed that there were only two -- the only other person on the album is presumably herm

I assumed there would be two, but I misremembered something about my role in this instance.

That it would be random lol.

I.
hm.
This claim is, at this point, terrible. There are three-four corrections and plot holes and similar problems. I'm inclined to believe it but the problems in the lack of a coherent story might be NAI instead of towny and if so the evidence is overwhelmingly against outside of that.

Despite all that, I'm still town.

Might as well use the remaining 24 hours to figure out the actual scum.

I expect to be miselim today tbh.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:10 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 pm @Long Con, can you tell us action on N3 for the list?

I targeted Radishes.

Very interesting, thanks for the answer. I'll add it to the list in the morning hoping I get ted and Nook's answers too.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:09 pm i think herm is town

Then unvote me lmao.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm @tedxtr can you please tell us your N3 action? and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

I assume all the tracks and watches and whatever have been claimed already?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm @tedxtr can you please tell us your N3 action? and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

I assume all the tracks and watches and whatever have been claimed already?

I think so - I don't know what ted did but he's not a tracker or a watcher. Did you read through the list? Thats everything I have.

Herm why did you go from completely afk to spamposting the moment you got attacked

Herm why did you go from completely afk to spamposting the moment you got attacked

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:18 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:10 pm So wait what results does your watch actually give you?

Good question. I have no idea why this random gave me role info and the first didn't.

The first gave you the amount, which was wrong and this one gave you the actual role info?

... makes no sense.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm @tedxtr can you please tell us your N3 action? and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

I assume all the tracks and watches and whatever have been claimed already?

I think so - I don't know what ted did but he's not a tracker or a watcher. Did you read through the list? Thats everything I have.

I did not!

I went to alison

WHY WAS TUTUU ROLEBLOCKED BY THE MAFIA IF THE MAFIA WEREN'T SHOOTING INTO SPF/MAC/ALISON?

WHY I SAY?

WHYYYYYYYYY

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm @tedxtr can you please tell us your N3 action? and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

I assume all the tracks and watches and whatever have been claimed already?

I think so - I don't know what ted did but he's not a tracker or a watcher. Did you read through the list? Thats everything I have.

I did not!

I went to alison

[mention]tutuu[/mention] does your role prevent any actions being made on your target or does it literally just protect them from death only AND delay their action?

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:30 pm Herm why did you go from completely afk to spamposting the moment you got attacked

It's a combination of being busy, trusting the towncore, and scum being annihilated early on.

Mon - Wed: heavy work days for me.

I was also participating in another game when this started, but I'm currently only participating here.

I don't think I've been that afk though. This game has had a lot of activity.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:41 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:39 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:33 pm @tedxtr can you please tell us your N3 action? and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could you also? It's possible I missed them and if I did I apologize. I'm trying to do an updated list.

I assume all the tracks and watches and whatever have been claimed already?

I think so - I don't know what ted did but he's not a tracker or a watcher. Did you read through the list? Thats everything I have.

I did not!

I went to alison

@tutuu does your role prevent any actions being made on your target or does it literally just protect them from death only AND delay their action?

1. Protects from death
2. Protects from negative stuff (roleblocks, redirects)
3. Delays their night report a little bit. Just the report, not the action itsslf

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

yeah wait

I mean 3P

but there could be an investiagtive on me that can't claim, a different kind of RT or something

Wilgy's claim doesn't actually make sense though. First he claimed that he knows how many only, now he knows it was "an investigative" and he can't explain it? What the fuck is that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

Herm could just be straight lying.

Also could be a validation by another town, we have afew unaccounted actions right?

Exercise time Tutuu! Out of the "can't claimers" which is maf and which is 3p?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm Wilgy's claim doesn't actually make sense though. First he claimed that he knows how many only, now he knows it was "an investigative" and he can't explain it? What the fuck is that?

Best guess is that Sloonei actually meant random. True blue random horseshit.

So there was some fuckery with Tim... Does that dismerit Dizzy who is also not voting Herm atm?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

Herm could just be straight lying.

Also could be a validation by another town, we have afew unaccounted actions right?

Exercise time Tutuu! Out of the "can't claimers" which is maf and which is 3p?

i dont know im airhead

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:16 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

Herm could just be straight lying.

Also could be a validation by another town, we have afew unaccounted actions right?

Exercise time Tutuu! Out of the "can't claimers" which is maf and which is 3p?

i dont know im airhead

Yeet Tutuu. Confirmed airhead.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:26 pm Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

i can think of a few possibilities:

-there is a mechanic that only allowed dya to see who herm killed, but not who herm visited. herm's rolecop/roleblocker ability could be invisible to visits

-wilgy is mafia with herm who claimed that report to try to absolve herm

-wilgy is 3p and made up the report about herm, who is mafia

-herm is 3p, which would explain why dya only has him visiting one person

but generally yes, if wilgy is town, it makes it more likely that herm is town as well

im struggling w/my read on herm right now because of oddmerta's claim. if oddmerta really is claiming that he got notified when herm visited his album, then that is big news - but im not sure if it's what odd is actually impyling