Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

[Sorsha]

I don't understand what you don't understand about matts post. He doesn't know why Mac wouldn't want LC back or a message from LC or whatever else a vote for LC in the night poll would have given us. I don't know that the poll gave anyone anything useful but I can see where Matt is coming from with it.

[Ricochet]

Oh ok, I must be in another dimension where language behaves differentLY and not voting something is inherently suspicious of opposing to vote something.

Let me paraphrase it then:

Hey Sorsha, you voted option 4 (Ninja). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!!

[Ricochet]

Hey bea, you voted option 4 (Ninja). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!! Didn't you want to save LC on D6? Why wouldn't you want him to come back?!?!!? Why wouldn't you vote him?!!

Hey FZ, you voted option 2 (Sig). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!!

Hey MM... got any chocolate?

[Sorsha]

Oh ok, I must be in another dimension where language behaves differentLY and not voting something is inherently suspicious of opposing to vote something.

Let me paraphrase it then:

Hey Sorsha, you voted option 4 (Ninja). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!!

Nothing, I just didn't think it was really a rezz poll so i went with option 4.

How about we lose the snark ok Rico?

[Ricochet]

Oh ok, I must be in another dimension where language behaves differentLY and not voting something is inherently suspicious of opposing to vote something.

Let me paraphrase it then:

Hey Sorsha, you voted option 4 (Ninja). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!!

Nothing, I just didn't think it was really a rezz poll so i went with option 4.

How about we lose the snark ok Rico?

Neither did Mac.

That's rich coming from you, so no.

[FZ.]

I don't agree with Matt that the fact Mac didn't vote LC means anything. I think none of us really believed this was a rezz poll, so I don't get you Matt. That said, the rest of your post was okay. Much better than Mac's crazy posts.

[Ricochet]

Even if it's an absurd level of discussion - at least until Matt clears things up or brings evidence - I don't get why he jumped on Mac solely and not, for instance, questioned bea as well, who fits the description just as much: LC saver, non-LC option voter. I think she even went further as to call the LC option "lame". So yeah, considering my take on D11 is that one or two of the following - bea, Mac, Matt - are the remaining baddies, it looks either hella selective from Matt or he simply had no idea what he's saying and just tried to throw an egg at Mac's face.

[Marmot]

Even if it's an absurd level of discussion - at least until Matt clears things up or brings evidence - I don't get why he jumped on Mac solely and not, for instance, questioned bea as well, who fits the description just as much: LC saver, non-LC option voter. I think she even went further as to call the LC option "lame". So yeah, considering my take on D11 is that one or two of the following - bea, Mac, Matt - are the remaining baddies, it looks either hella selective from Matt or he simply had no idea what he's saying and just tried to throw an egg at Mac's face.

If you were Matt and you were civ, who else would you look at? I think that Sorsha and I are ruled out from being lynched today. That leaves 2 baddies among bea, FZ, and Mac.

Same with Mac, if he's civ, his best options are bea, FZ, and Matt. I'm not surprised that Matt and Mac ended up butting heads after yesterday's lynch, although Mac's reaction has been more of an "I can't believe that guy would suspect me" attitude.

[Marmot]

Hey bea, you voted option 4 (Ninja). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!! Didn't you want to save LC on D6? Why wouldn't you want him to come back?!?!!? Why wouldn't you vote him?!!

Hey FZ, you voted option 2 (Sig). What do you have against wanting LC to maybe come back or send us a message?!! Why didn't you vote LC??!!!!!

Hey MM... got any chocolate?

Lol...

Naw. Nobody's bothered to give me any. And if you're going to complain about my BR vote, then shoo.

[Ricochet]

I don't care what you voted last Night.

[Marmot]

I think we should lynch Mac today. I honestly don't have much interest in voting elsewhere.

[Ricochet]

Even if it's an absurd level of discussion - at least until Matt clears things up or brings evidence - I don't get why he jumped on Mac solely and not, for instance, questioned bea as well, who fits the description just as much: LC saver, non-LC option voter. I think she even went further as to call the LC option "lame". So yeah, considering my take on D11 is that one or two of the following - bea, Mac, Matt - are the remaining baddies, it looks either hella selective from Matt or he simply had no idea what he's saying and just tried to throw an egg at Mac's face.

If you were Matt and you were civ, who else would you look at? I think that Sorsha and I are ruled out from being lynched today. That leaves 2 baddies among bea, FZ, and Mac.

Same with Mac, if he's civ, his best options are bea, FZ, and Matt. I'm not surprised that Matt and Mac ended up butting heads after yesterday's lynch, although Mac's reaction has been more of an "I can't believe that guy would suspect me" attitude.

True, it's just permutations, which way you look at it, except for maybe FZ. (imo), Sorsha or you staging the biggest bullsuit upset ever.

[Marmot]

Rico, you green-read Mac, DharmaHelper, and llama green on Day 1. :O

[Ricochet]

Rico, you green-read Mac, DharmaHelper, and llama green on Day 1. :O

I was a different person back then.

I also red-read Zebraddie.

...and also virtually every other baddie, except DH.

[bea]

Today is super bowl sunday. A dark dark dark day in pizza land.

Voting mac.

[Marmot]

Rico, you green-read Mac, DharmaHelper, and llama green on Day 1. :O

I was a different person back then.

I also red-read Zebraddie.

...and also virtually every other baddie, except DH.

True. It's funny that those were your only green reads then (and assuming Mac is bad).

Linki: Aw, poor bea. I hope you've got a flask hidden somewhere in the shop.

[Ricochet]

Rico, you green-read Mac, DharmaHelper, and llama green on Day 1. :O

I was a different person back then.

I also red-read Zebraddie.

...and also virtually every other baddie, except DH.

True. It's funny that those were your only green reads then (and assuming Mac is bad).

Linki: Aw, poor bea. I hope you've got a flask hidden somewhere in the shop.

I read llama green to intentionally try to get boo'd or suss'd for even the notion that I would ever trust llama in a game (plus, the huge, huuuuge irony that I got to wear his Donner skin). But nobody really payed attention, I guess.

I put DH in all colours, as a reference to aapje doing the same to him back in Recruitment.

No idea why I civ-read Mac, lol. Probably because he wasn't having any of it with my shenanigans.

[Ricochet]

I developed so much parallel roleplay, meta, references, homages and ironypokes at my entire year spent here playing Mafia, but nobody will remember me as anything but a bad omelette maker.

Oh, and probably as a civ who lost big time, if the last lynch(es) go south.

Welp, seems like an easy Day at the office right now. I wonder if Mac has an unassaible lead or if shenanigans will still occur.

[Marmot]

Is Wigly srsly being saved right now? Can we go one lynch without fucking ourselves raw?

Can you think of any reason at all that bea and mac might have reason to believe that wigly is a civ?

[Marmot]

I developed so much parallel roleplay, meta, references, homages and ironypokes at my entire year spent here playing Mafia, but nobody will remember me as anything but a bad omelette maker.

Oh, and probably as a civ who lost big time, if the last lynch(es) go south.

Welp, seems like an easy Day at the office right now. I wonder if Mac has an unassaible lead or if shenanigans will still occur.

I will always remember you as the Mikami that failed.

[Ricochet]

I developed so much parallel roleplay, meta, references, homages and ironypokes at my entire year spent here playing Mafia, but nobody will remember me as anything but a bad omelette maker.

Oh, and probably as a civ who lost big time, if the last lynch(es) go south.

Welp, seems like an easy Day at the office right now. I wonder if Mac has an unassaible lead or if shenanigans will still occur.

I will always remember you as the Mikami that failed.

[Marmot]

I've got a new lynch priority list btw.

Ricochet
Marmot
Sorsha
FZ.
Matt
bea
MacDougall

[Ricochet]

Why bea more than Matt?

[Matt]

Matt- do you think Dom checked me? I remember I suspected you and him of being teammates for a while there- I sensed you two had some kind of a connection at the time. Then you two started going against each other in the thread & it seemed like more than teammate distancing (and then of course Dom died and flipped civ) so I didn't suspect you as much. I feel like I should be having an "A-ha!" Moment here about you but since everything is so secret in this game I'm not having it.

Anyway- I still suspect Mac as #1, you were just my most likely as his btsc mate if the game doesn't end with his death. Do you think he is the last baddie? I remember thinking something was weird with the boomslang lynch and no one but you seemed to agree. Do you think boom was bad?

I have no idea if Dom checked you, but that's not why I said the "felt better about you shortly after Dom died" if that's why you're asking.

I do not think Mac is the last baddie (assuming he's a Wilgy/motel teamie which I can't see him not being). Looking over the last two champies games, there have been two teams of four both times and my guess is the hosts kept it the same for this game.

I don't think Boom was bad. I had G2h him good early on in the game, then flippity flopped on him after I had a theory about the question curses, and then when LC flipped after Boom's "better lynch him", I really thought he was a btsc checker. Regardless of his flip of "Frans", I feel like Boom had info of some kind, I have no idea why he would attack LC otherwise.

Even if it's an absurd level of discussion - at least until Matt clears things up or brings evidence - I don't get why he jumped on Mac solely and not, for instance, questioned bea as well, who fits the description just as much: LC saver, non-LC option voter. I think she even went further as to call the LC option "lame". So yeah, considering my take on D11 is that one or two of the following - bea, Mac, Matt - are the remaining baddies, it looks either hella selective from Matt or he simply had no idea what he's saying and just tried to throw an egg at Mac's face.

Dude, sometimes I don't think you even read the thread. I questioned bea as well on the LC thing the other night. Remember, she kept saying that option 1 wasn't a viable option for her, and that 2 and 4 were better? I'm not sure if bea was bullshitting with that answer, but regardless, that was her answer and there's not much I can do to argue it.

Mac, to my knowledge, did not even respond to my questioning of why he wasn't voting LC. So when I got home last night, and saw he didn't even bother to respond, yes, I went after him for it again. But to say I "solely" went after Mac is false and I wish you'd stop getting shit wrong.

Anyway, I woke up fairly early, and I'll be around for about 2 and half hours while gettin' ready for work and all that jazz, if anyone has any questions for me.

[Ricochet]

The problem then is that you either didn't ask Mac, during the Night, about the LC thing, or you didn't criticise bea, during this Day, for her poll option being a non-LC one. Your treatment of the two comes out uneven whichever way you look at it.

Now, how 'bout you quote me that line where Mac says or has something against voting LC on the night poll?

[Ricochet]

You're having, quote, "trouble believing that [Mac] wouldn't want [LC] back in the game or even to receive a message from him", yet when bea answers you that she'll vote options whose numbers she likes and the others (including LC) are, quote, "lame", that's just peachy fine for you.

As long as people answer something to you, they're not worthy suspects further down the line, as opposed to those who don't answer you. Got it.

[Ricochet]

FZ. is the only one left to vote and we all expect she'll love nothing more than to vote Mac. Which means Mac currently has and likely will have all the votes (apart from his) on him.

If we're looking at two baddies left, what is everyone not-named-Mac's thoughts on who might have clicked the buss vote toDay?

[Ricochet]

The problem then isthat you either didn't ask Mac, during the Night, about the LC thing, or you didn't criticise bea, during this Day, for her poll option being a non-LC one. Your treatment of the two comes out uneven whichever way you look at it.

Now, how 'bout you quote me that line where Mac says or has something against voting LC on the night poll?

Yeah, strike that and sorry for the quad.

[Matt]

The problem then is that you either didn't ask Mac, during the Night, about the LC thing, or you didn't criticise bea, during this Day, for her poll option being a non-LC one. Your treatment of the two comes out uneven whichever way you look at it.

Now, how 'bout you quote me that line where Mac says or has something against voting LC on the night poll?

Dude, he outright ignored the questioning on why he wouldn't vote for LC. And no, me going after Mac for this is NOT the same as you saying "Oh sorsha, oh fz, oh marsh, why didn't you vote LC you must be bad?" Not at all.

Consider this...

Mac tried to "save" LC the day he died. And yet, when we are given an option to rezz a player (or even if that was plainly false, it STILL might've resulted in a message from him or something), why didn't Mac vote LC? All game he'd been using LC to paint Wilgy, bea, and even himself as civvie. So why not vote LC? ESPECIALLY if you're getting heat right now. So no, questioning Mac on why he didn't vote for LC is NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL as questioning anyone else in the game over it (except for bea).

Anyway, need to shower up and then eat, I'll be back in about 45 min. Peace

Linki - Rico, the other night when questioning bea, Marmot said something like "I'm getting what you're picking down" to bea about the poll options, which I took as Marmot trusting her for some reason (info?), so I've laid off. However, I still think it's highly questionable that bea didn't want to vote for LC, and to answer your other question, IF Mac is bad, and IF the game continues, then I would put bea down as his btsc buddy. Be back in a bit.

[FZ.]

I am having a really hard time assuming LC was wrong about all three players he said were good. This means to me, either Bea is good and LC really was bad and could look like a civ when dying, or he was good and then, since I can't see both Mac and bea as baddies who fooled him, if by any small chance Mac turns out good, which I highly doubt, we should look at Bea.


What are people's thoughts about the LC angle?

[Marmot]

I wouldn't say I trusted bea, I just understood the point she was trying to make: that there was a specific position that benefited her role.

[Marmot]

Can someone remind me what the list of players who knew LC is?

[Ricochet]

The problem then is that you either didn't ask Mac, during the Night, about the LC thing, or you didn't criticise bea, during this Day, for her poll option being a non-LC one. Your treatment of the two comes out uneven whichever way you look at it.

Now, how 'bout you quote me that line where Mac says or has something against voting LC on the night poll?

1) Dude, he outright ignored the questioning on why he wouldn't vote for LC. 2) And no, me going after Mac for this is NOT the same as you saying "Oh sorsha, oh fz, oh marsh, why didn't you vote LC you must be bad?" Not at all.

1) He had a lot to talk last Night. Him "never answering" your question could be circumstancial, as opposed to "outright ignoring". Bring me timestamps on him seemingly ignoring your questions. Also, you're STILL not pulling any quotes on where did Mac oppose LC as a vote option. K.

2) I only did that paraphrasing when Sorsha deemed it proper for you to make a "didn't vote = opposed to vote" equation. I don't actually care about anyone's votes the previous Night, now that nothing happened and if I were to boil things down, it would be only between Mac and bea that I find similarities in how you treat them (had faith/wanted to save LC, yet never bothered with his vote option).

Consider this...

3) Mac tried to "save" LC the day he died. 4) And yet, when we are given an option to rezz a player (or even if that was plainly false, it STILL might've resulted in a message from him or something), why didn't Mac vote LC? 5) All game he'd been using LC to paint Wilgy, bea, and even himself as civvie. So why not vote LC? 6) ESPECIALLY if you're getting heat right now. So no, questioning Mac on why he didn't vote for LC is NOT THE SAME THING AT ALL as questioning anyone else in the game over it (7) except for bea).

3) So did bea. I just love it when people give someone the stinkeye for something, but not the other one for the very same thing.

4) Same applies to bea. Idem.

5) So did bea once accidentally parrot the "LC <3 Wilgy" belief without actually being asked.

6) This is probably the only detail in which Mac and bea are on different paths, right now. Circumstances 3) to 5) should have still made you question both, at this stage.

7) Well, la-di-da, now you finally take bea into account!

Linki - Rico, the other night when questioning bea, Marmot said something like "I'm getting what you're picking down" to bea about the poll options, which I took as Marmot trusting her for some reason (info?), so I've laid off. However, I still think it's highly questionable that bea didn't want to vote for LC, and to answer your other question, IF Mac is bad, and IF the game continues, then I would put bea down as his btsc buddy. Be back in a bit.

I'm tired of the "I'm getting what you're picking down" claims and moments in this game. I'm not nearly as successful, if that's the case. I don't get what position 1 (LC) would have had anymore, now that Kubrick was debunked and the quasi-position power team is toast. Can there be one more position power baddie left, in the opposite team? Who knows? More importantly, how would bea have any info or vibe on it, as a civ?

linki:

I wouldn't say I trusted bea, I just understood the point she was trying to make: that there was a specific position that benefited her role.

Oh ok. But y'know, we haven't had any civs with precise position powers, just the Broadway duo who could influence a position (basically the counterbalance to LoRab). Soo...

[FZ.]

Basically, the only people he talked about kind of trusting were Bea, Mac and Wilgy.

[Marmot]

I wouldn't say I trusted bea, I just understood the point she was trying to make: that there was a specific position that benefited her role.

Oh ok. But y'know, we haven't had any civs with precise position powers, just the Broadway duo who could influence a position (basically the counterbalance to LoRab). Soo...

Good point. This never occurred to me.

[Marmot]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

[FZ.]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

So you just think he was wrong about Wilgy, Mac and possibly Bea if there are 2 more baddies? Does that make more sense to you?

[Ricochet]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

So you just think he was wrong about Wilgy, Mac and possibly Bea if there are 2 more baddies? Does that make more sense to you?

If LC was a seemer, then we have one baddie left, so it couldn't apply to both Mac and bea anyway.

IDK, LC's role sounded genuine and several interaction rang true as well (not just from LC's side, but peeps talking about him). I'm not inclined to give it much thought.

[FZ.]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

So you just think he was wrong about Wilgy, Mac and possibly Bea if there are 2 more baddies? Does that make more sense to you?

If LC was a seemer, then we have one baddie left, so it couldn't apply to both Mac and bea anyway.

IDK, LC's role sounded genuine and several interaction rang true as well (not just from LC's side, but peeps talking about him). I'm not inclined to give it much thought.

I get why his role sounds genuine. What I don't get is how everyone kept saying LC is fabulous at figuring people's alignment in BTSCs yet if we're voting for the right people, he got at least 2 out of 3 he talked about, wrong. I don't get how no one is bothered by this, but okay. I don't know if there's much point in discussing it anyway, so let's just get this lynch over with, and hopefully we won't have to discuss it after.

[Ricochet]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

So you just think he was wrong about Wilgy, Mac and possibly Bea if there are 2 more baddies? Does that make more sense to you?

If LC was a seemer, then we have one baddie left, so it couldn't apply to both Mac and bea anyway.

IDK, LC's role sounded genuine and several interaction rang true as well (not just from LC's side, but peeps talking about him). I'm not inclined to give it much thought.

I get why his role sounds genuine. What I don't get is how everyone kept saying LC is fabulous at figuring people's alignment in BTSCs yet if we're voting for the right people, he got at least 2 out of 3 he talked about, wrong. I don't get how no one is bothered by this, but okay. I don't know if there's much point in discussing it anyway, so let's just get this lynch over with, and hopefully we won't have to discuss it after.

I was just saying about his role flip. As for your concern, I can slightly agree the "oh LC is so great in BedSTC" mentioned were a bit too often for my taste - but that was back when I was suspecting LC, so nvmd *sweep sweep sweep sweep under the rug*.

Could he have checked in with that many mafia members in the first place? Who knows? Could the mafia members have played a lean mean BTSC session with him? Same wonder.

[FZ.]

I don't think we should doubt LC was good. His role ability isn't something you would see a baddie have, imo.

So you just think he was wrong about Wilgy, Mac and possibly Bea if there are 2 more baddies? Does that make more sense to you?

If LC was a seemer, then we have one baddie left, so it couldn't apply to both Mac and bea anyway.

IDK, LC's role sounded genuine and several interaction rang true as well (not just from LC's side, but peeps talking about him). I'm not inclined to give it much thought.

I get why his role sounds genuine. What I don't get is how everyone kept saying LC is fabulous at figuring people's alignment in BTSCs yet if we're voting for the right people, he got at least 2 out of 3 he talked about, wrong. I don't get how no one is bothered by this, but okay. I don't know if there's much point in discussing it anyway, so let's just get this lynch over with, and hopefully we won't have to discuss it after.

I was just saying about his role flip. As for your concern, I can slightly agree the "oh LC is so great in BedSTC" mentioned were a bit too often for my taste - but that was back when I was suspecting LC, so nvmd *sweep sweep sweep sweep under the rug*.

Could he have checked in with that many mafia members in the first place? Who knows? Could the mafia members have played a lean mean BTSC session with him? Same wonder.

What if they could recruit? Oh well, there's really no point in speculating now. Unless we think Mac and Bea are both civvies and we're barking up the wrong tree. I know I'm not bad, and since Sorsha survived an attempt on her life, she's probably not bad either. So I just can't see a scenario where Mac is not bad.

[Matt]

Rico...blah. I don't even know what you mean by saying I've only gone after Mac for this. I clearly went after bea last night for the same exact thing. Are you trying to paint me and bea as partners or something, and that Mac is really good? Please stop. I know you probably won't, but you are following the wrong path here.

Question - Is it possible that LC got btsc with one of the baddies, and then that player tricked LC into thinking they were good, and then recommended that LC get btsc with their teammates? Say he got btsc with Wilgy, and then Wilgy suggested picking Mac or bea for the next btsc. If they could trick him, they would essentially have an extra vote on their team, LC believing they're all good.

I don't agree with FZ that if Mac flips bad, bea is suddenly good because "oh how could LC get it wrong three times?" We're getting ahead of ourselves though. I think Mac is the good lynch today. Please don't try to get town to switch it to me today, Rico. I have to leave in less then an hour and if I get lynched while I'm working during superbowl while I am unable to defend, I'm going to be pissed and town is going to be one step closer to losing.

[Ricochet]

Rico...blah. I don't even know what you mean by saying I've only gone after Mac for this. I clearly went after bea last night for the same exact thing. Are you trying to paint me and bea as partners or something, and that Mac is really good? Please stop. I know you probably won't, but you are following the wrong path here.

To-Day. To-Day. To-Day.

Question - Is it possible that LC got btsc with one of the baddies, and then that player tricked LC into thinking they were good, and then recommended that LC get btsc with their teammates? Say he got btsc with Wilgy, and then Wilgy suggested picking Mac or bea for the next btsc. If they could trick him, they would essentially have an extra vote on their team, LC believing they're all good.

Hmm. Not impossible, but it would be very ballsy from a baddie and would need careful wording, especially if the Chatterbox is famed for his chatter skills and perspicacity.

Please don't try to get town to switch it to me today, Rico. I have to leave in less then an hour and if I get lynched while I'm working during superbowl while I am unable to defend, I'm going to be pissed and town is going to be one step closer to losing.

Ergh, I wouldn't mind testing your flip as much as Mac's, tbh, but I don't think there will be any switch towards you, if that's your worry. Not sure, though, if there will be lynch shenanigans yet again.

[FZ.]

Matt, if it means anything to you, I have no plans on switching my vote today.

[Matt]

Matt, if it means anything to you, I have no plans on switching my vote today.

Thank you. I also hope you don't vote for me tomorrow. FZ, you have been after me for most of the game. First trying to pin me and LC as being partners, then saying I'm bad because I defended people

If Mac flips good, how will you see me FZ?

If Mac flips bad, same question.

[Ricochet]

FZ. is the only one left to vote and we all expect she'll love nothing more than to vote Mac. Which means Mac currently has and likely will have all the votes (apart from his) on him. Accomplished.

If we're looking at two baddies left, what is everyone not-named-Mac's thoughts on who might have clicked the buss vote toDay?

Asked one hour and 44 minutes ago.

[Marmot]

FZ. is the only one left to vote and we all expect she'll love nothing more than to vote Mac. Which means Mac currently has and likely will have all the votes (apart from his) on him. Accomplished.

If we're looking at two baddies left, what is everyone not-named-Mac's thoughts on who might have clicked the buss vote toDay?

Asked one hour and 44 minutes ago.

Bea. She sheeped the hardest on Mac's breakdown yesterday, despite my proving it to be pretty wrong. She had nothing to say to or about Mac last night except that he drank crazy juice, but instead proceeded to debate the "rezz poll" with Matt who was after Mac. Also, her [/url=http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 13#p226113]Mac vote[/url] is kinda weak today. Nothing in her previous behavior backs it up.

If it's Matt, he clicked the buss vote as soon as I was not lynched, rather than wait. I think that's less probable. Matt has at least walked the walk.

FZ hasn't voted yet, so technically, she couldn't have bussed Mac yet. :P

[Marmot]

Fixed.

FZ. is the only one left to vote and we all expect she'll love nothing more than to vote Mac. Which means Mac currently has and likely will have all the votes (apart from his) on him. Accomplished.

If we're looking at two baddies left, what is everyone not-named-Mac's thoughts on who might have clicked the buss vote toDay?

Asked one hour and 44 minutes ago.

Bea. She sheeped the hardest on Mac's breakdown yesterday, despite my proving it to be pretty wrong. She had nothing to say to or about Mac last night except that he drank crazy juice, but instead proceeded to debate the "rezz poll" with Matt who was after Mac. Also, her Mac vote is kinda weak today. Nothing in her previous behavior backs it up.

If it's Matt, he clicked the buss vote as soon as I was not lynched, rather than wait. I think that's less probable. Matt has at least walked the walk.

FZ hasn't voted yet, so technically, she couldn't have bussed Mac yet. :P

[Marmot]

Never mind, FZ has voted.

[FZ.]

Matt, if it means anything to you, I have no plans on switching my vote today.

Thank you. I also hope you don't vote for me tomorrow. FZ, you have been after me for most of the game. First trying to pin me and LC as being partners, then saying I'm bad because I defended people

If Mac flips good, how will you see me FZ?

If Mac flips bad, same question.

There's a process of elimination here. I know for sure I'm a civ. I believe MM is not bad. Actually, I have more reason to believe he's not lying than before. This leaves Mac, Bea, Sorsha and Matt.

Mac is my number one suspect, for reasons I have stated during the night.

Bea being bad would make LC both a very lucky civvie (to nail BTSC with 3 baddies), and a very shitty civvie for trusting all three of them (or 2 out of 3 if Mac is civ).

Matt's defense is really persuading me. I think he's not bad. That said, there were too many baddies I suspected and then made me come around and trust them. Still, at this point in time, he's reassured me of his civviness.
Lastly, Sorsha survived a NK. Basically, that should clear her. The only way that Sorsha could be bad is if she got that NK save somehow, decided to target herself (with or without a team mate), and used the survival ticket to make herself look spectacular. How likely is this? I think it's pretty lowt, but anything is possible. Still, her frustration with DH felt real to me. I don't see her as bad.

So yeah, I guess Bea and then Matt