The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:59 am Day 1

[6] nutella - MacDougall, gwilikers6, dunya, ColinIsCool, rundontwalk, JaggedJimmyJay
[2] Epignosis - Kites, Iron_Dwarf
[6] Quin - Dragon D. Luffy, nutella, , colonialbob, Marmot, Kylemii, Long Con
[1] rabbit8 - sig
[1] ColinIsCool - Epignosis
[1] Kylemii - TonyStarkPrime
[1] TonyStarkPrime - Kenway
[1] dunya - DrWilgy

No vote: Dr. White, lapluie, Quin, rabbit8, sprityo

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm Day 2

CBob - Kites, Tony, Marmot, Iron, Mac
Lap - Quin, Nutella, LC, Jimmy, CBob
Dr White (lynched, town) - Colin, Speed, RDW
LC - DDL, Kyle
Marmot - Sig
Speed - Wilgy
Iron - GWilly
Sig - Sprityo
Nutella - Dr White
Jimmy - Epi

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm Day 3

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, McDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig (but a good effort)

Much vote manipulation. Very unexpect

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:02 am Day 4

9] DrWilgy - sig, Kites, Iron_Dwarf, Marmot, gwilikers6, Dragon D. Luffy, Quin, rundontwalk, Speedchuck
[6] Quin - lapluie, sprityo, nutella, Kylemii, colonialbob, Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:20 am Day 5

[8] Quin - Marmot, Nutella, Dragon D. Luffy, Sig, speedchuck, gwilikers6, Kylemii oh yeah and Kites, too
[4] Iron_Dwarf - rundontwalk, sprityo, quin, Epignosis
[1] Nutella - lapluie
[1] Marmot - Iron_Dwarf
[1] Kenway - colonialbob

No vote: Kenway

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:54 pm Day 6
[6] lapluie - sprityo, nutella, rundontwalk, gwilkkers6, Epignosis, Kylemii
[4] rundontwalk - colonialbob, Kites, sig, Dragon D. Luffy
[2] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Speedchuck

Not voting: Kenway, lapluie





Day 7

Who gets lynched? (Vote here and in thread.)
Poll ended at Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:06 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Rundontwalk
1
6%
Voters: Iron_Dwarf
Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Colonialbob
3
18%
Voters: Kites, rundontwalk, nutella
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
IronDwarf
2
12%
Voters: Kylemii, speedchuck
Sig
4
24%
Voters: colonialbob, Kenway, Epignosis, sprityo
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
Vote in thread, too, or you won’t be allowed to have nice things. Day ends when this poll ends. (Dead/non/host)
7
41%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty, lapluie, Jackofhearts2005, Marmot, dunya



At this point, I expect you to start questioning my ability to count.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:36 am Who killed Princess Epi?
Poll ended at Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:55 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


rundontwalk
0
No votes
Voters: None
Speedchuck (formerly Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
1
5%
Voters: Iron_Dwarf
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
colonialbob
0
No votes
Voters: None
Iron_Dwarf
6
32%
Voters: nutella, Kylemii, gwilikers6, speedchuck, Kites, colonialbob
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sig
1
5%
Voters: Kenway
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thumb! I was paying attention! (host/dead/non) Day ends at poll end. Don't forget to post your votes to the thread or you'll be arrested too.
11
58%
Voters: dunya, lapluie, TonyStarkPrime, Epignosis, MacDougall, sprityo, Dragon D. Luffy, Scotty, JaggedJimmyJay, Jackofhearts2005, insertnamehere
Total votes: 19

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:15 pm Who is bad?
Poll ended at Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:07 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Rundontwalk
5
26%
Voters: speedchuck, colonialbob, nutella, gwilikers6, Kylemii
Speedchuck/Dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gwilikers6
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
2
11%
Voters: sig, Kites
Colonialbob
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
You guys what if we have to lynch Jack? What if he’s the big bad? (host/dead/non)
12
63%
Voters: Marmot, Iron_Dwarf, JaggedJimmyJay, DrWilgy, Dragon D. Luffy, sprityo, MacDougall, lapluie, Scotty, Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis, dunya
Total votes: 19

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:24 am Who killed GWill?
Poll ended at Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:18 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Rundontwalk
4
24%
Voters: speedchuck, nutella, colonialbob, Kylemii
Speedchuck (Dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kenway
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Nutella
1
6%
Voters: sig
Colonialbob
1
6%
Voters: rundontwalk
Sig
1
6%
Voters: Kenway
Kites
0
No votes
Voters: None
How are Rico and friends so bad at this game? Good guys aren’t supposed to die. (Host/Dead/Non)
10
59%
Voters: MacDougall, JaggedJimmyJay, lapluie, Marmot, Jackofhearts2005, Dragon D. Luffy, MovingPictures07, Epignosis, Scotty, sprityo
Total votes: 17

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:45 pm @sig Kyle and Kenway are dead town

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:45 pm @sig Kyle and Kenway are dead town

Nope one had to be mafia for my alignment flip to make any sense. They must be a seemer.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)

Yeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)

Yeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.

I mean, yeah we need to lynch scum today and we should consider all avenues, but this is one of them.

Whether or not we have 1 or 2 scum left matters, darn it. It changes the mechanically potential teams.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:42 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.

Why? Why the heck would Sig gambit that?

1. He's been saying it all game.
2. He's not under suspicion as much as you, me, or nutella.
3. It's not even a good lie.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:54 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:42 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.

Why? Why the heck would Sig gambit that?

1. He's been saying it all game.
2. He's not under suspicion as much as you, me, or nutella.
3. It's not even a good lie.

He's been saying he's neutral all game?

He would have been after killing a townie. I don't care if he thought kenway was mafia or night, a vig last night is an anti-town play, period.

I mean, people are believing it, so if it is a lie it seems to be a good one?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:54 pm Explain fully. I must have missed something.

So you know I started coming from Badguya, today I was switched over to Rico's army. This would occur when two things happen.

I vig a mafia member
My brother, a mafia member, dies

Since I switched over that means Kenway, who I killed was mafia Kyle who mafia killed was mafia. Or in theory I guess rdw?

Either way someone who flipped within the last 72 hours couldn't have been a civ since I was switched to Rico's army.

hmm Points to Kenway I guess (rdw makes the least sense if you were just switched over after the night, and mafia killed kyle)

Yeah, I don't think we should focus to much on it and still act like this could be lylo, however I do believe one was mafia and we just have one left.

I mean, yeah we need to lynch scum today and we should consider all avenues, but this is one of them.

Whether or not we have 1 or 2 scum left matters, darn it. It changes the mechanically potential teams.

Yeah, looking at the way things have landed I'd say we can clear Nutella and I know I'm a civ.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:14 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:54 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:42 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:23 am I'm voting speed or Sig today. I could buy sig's whole "I'm neutral and I accidentally killed my brother who's mafia except he flipped town but really he's mafia" as a mafia endgame gambit. His kill last night was decidedly town unfriendly. But overall I trust Kites and since I know I didn't kill Kenway it has to be speed.

Why? Why the heck would Sig gambit that?

1. He's been saying it all game.
2. He's not under suspicion as much as you, me, or nutella.
3. It's not even a good lie.

He's been saying he's neutral all game?

He would have been after killing a townie. I don't care if he thought kenway was mafia or night, a vig last night is an anti-town play, period.

I mean, people are believing it, so if it is a lie it seems to be a good one?

Why gambit, then? Why even claim the vig in the first place?

I don't understand what you think Sig's goals are. If he's scum, why hasn't he been vigging on any other days? 2 scumkills would have ended this game like a week ago.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:29 am Also "why claim the vig" I mean probably because all the roles are public?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:29 am Also "why claim the vig" I mean probably because all the roles are public?

No, I mean why claim the vig KILL? There are other ways that crit could have happened.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:51 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:35 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:29 am Also "why claim the vig" I mean probably because all the roles are public?

No, I mean why claim the vig KILL? There are other ways that crit could have happened.

Kites or nutella, right? Except Kites is basically confirmed town, and he's screwed if he I blocked nutella, who I had targeted the previous night.

Also he's killing him in the writeup, so.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:11 pm I'm going to assume that everyone promoted by now.

cbob guided nutella, and this action was reversed by kenway (what does that even mean?)
Kenway reversed cbob?
nutella claimed to misdirect kenway

This weird 3-way catches my attention. Cbob (promoted merc) was supposed to affect nutella (promoted pegasus knight) with the help of Kenway (promoted Mage). But Nutella supposedly redirected Kenway.

Ignoring scum shenannigans, which of these actions had priority in this? What was the reverse supposed to do?
The only person who could clarify what happened aside from these two is dead. That makes the claims of targeting each other/Kenway convenient.

colonialbob, What were you hoping to accomplish with the help of Kenway?
nutella, Why redirect Kenway?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:12 pm For the record, as frustrated as I've been with Sig's lack of/choice of actions this game, I think he's town.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:10 pm Cant chat much but bob trying to push mt lynch is kinda scummy

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:37 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:12 pm For the record, as frustrated as I've been with Sig's lack of/choice of actions this game, I think he's town.

Even though he claimed to basically be independent?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:34 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:11 pm I'm going to assume that everyone promoted by now.

cbob guided nutella, and this action was reversed by kenway (what does that even mean?)
Kenway reversed cbob?
nutella claimed to misdirect kenway

This weird 3-way catches my attention. Cbob (promoted merc) was supposed to affect nutella (promoted pegasus knight) with the help of Kenway (promoted Mage). But Nutella supposedly redirected Kenway.

Ignoring scum shenannigans, which of these actions had priority in this? What was the reverse supposed to do?
The only person who could clarify what happened aside from these two is dead. That makes the claims of targeting each other/Kenway convenient.

colonialbob, What were you hoping to accomplish with the help of Kenway?
nutella, Why redirect Kenway?

I was trying to block nutella.

"Fire - Each night, you may target another player and reverse their action. A nightkill will become a doctor, a guide will become a block, a track will become a reverse track, etc.
Promotes to Sage or Mage Knight"

I specifically checked with Jack to make sure the reversal would still affect my action if I used my bow. Bow should have priority over nutella's action:

"7) Bows are not weak or strong against other weapons but have a 100% chance to self guide against fliers. Bows allow players to retroactively effect actions of fliers that have already resolved. Example:

Spoiler: show

So if a flier blocks Player A and a sword infantry blocks the flier, Player A will still be blocked because the flier's action resolves first and the infantry player is too late to block the flier.

In the same scenario but with a bow user instead of a sword user attempting to block the flier, Player A will not be blocked because bow users can retroactively effect resolved flier actions.

If a bow user nightkills a flier and another infantry player doctors the flier, the flier will not die because the bow user is not "faster" than the other infantry player. He only gains the ability to effect resolved flier actions. He is not a flier himself.

"

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:27 pm I misdirected kenway because he was openly planning with bob and I figured bob was going to try to target me again/I found their coordination kinda fishy and wanted to mess with it for my own safety

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:41 am @sig How certain are you that Kenway/RDW was scum?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:02 pm I nominate this gif for Best Quote on Sockys 2018.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:06 pm Okay so the down and dirty of my role was that I could win with either town or mafia as long as I didn't kill a mafia member at night. If I did I'd be moved from the red to the green on the main page. I also have a brother on the mafia team who can win with the civs as long as I stay alive. And any night actions I use on them will fail.

sooo if my brother is still alive just out yourself let us lynch you and we win the game.

SO while Kenway flipped town he must've been mafia since nothing else could've caused me to switch from teams.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:05 pm I simply don't believe there's a mafia who flips as Town.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:10 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:05 pm I simply don't believe there's a mafia who flips as Town.

Why do you adamantly disagree with this? It's not exactly an unheard-of role.