The Syndicate

actually do we even know for sure if the people who visited tsp & tutuu are mafia? could it have been 3rd party as well?

mechanics give me a headache. i want to go back to the olden days when all we had to do to find mafia was scumhunt

There's no way Herm's role visits.

Has ANYONE gotten this notification?

(Outside odd ofc)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:28 pm There's no way Herm's role visits.

Has ANYONE gotten this notification?

oddmerta softed that he got a notification from one of herm's visits. that is the single thing keeping me from being confident

is there a single world where herm and dya could both be town?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:40 pm WHY WAS TUTUU ROLEBLOCKED BY THE MAFIA IF THE MAFIA WEREN'T SHOOTING INTO SPF/MAC/ALISON?

WHY I SAY?

WHYYYYYYYYY

She wasn't roleblocked; she's just pretending she was because she's scum and wants to mess up our analysis.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:40 pm WHY WAS TUTUU ROLEBLOCKED BY THE MAFIA IF THE MAFIA WEREN'T SHOOTING INTO SPF/MAC/ALISON?

WHY I SAY?

WHYYYYYYYYY

She wasn't roleblocked; she's just pretending she was because she's scum and wants to mess up our analysis.

That's an option

Any others?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:40 pm is there a single world where herm and dya could both be town?

Yes the world in which Herm isn't lying. He's not arguing that Dya is lying.

But in that world you are mafia for saying Herm was 100% mafia lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:30 am But in that world you are mafia for saying Herm was 100% mafia lol

i do not stand by that

But you said it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:30 am But you said it

and now i dont, so it shouldnt impact your reads in general

If only mafia was as easy as just trusting everything everyone said.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:48 am If only mafia was as easy as just trusting everything everyone said.

Maybe nobody (except jpic) has explicitly lied yet

I got nanook n3 [mention]juliets[/mention]

I think town messed up by mass claiming and now we’re getting steam rolled

Idk why everyone thinks Herm is scum here,

Nanook going for the double vote story and not staying put for the trackers is an issue, like it's 13 townies vs 3 scums. How important can that double vote be?

Wut

I’m confirmed not scum kek what’s wrong with you people

I get you want your vanity wagon but this is a silly one

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:06 am Wut

I’m confirmed not scum kek what’s wrong with you people

You do have a green check from a cop claim that was the alleged N1 kill, it's all circumstantial evidence

Anyway what is up with you going out and using your ability, just askng to turn up at the night kill. It's enough to make a tracker paranoid.

You can't lynch him. If he's mafia Alison is mafia. Don't be ridiculous.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:47 am You can't lynch him. If he's mafia Alison is mafia. Don't be ridiculous.

I know that you aren't mafia but nobody else can be trusted

Didn't even see the clear

[unvote] [/unvote]

Mechanics reads list

Mech clear until Alison flips

TSP
Nanook
LC

Mac's town spot / 3p

Mac

Alison's spot because she was allegedly N1'd / town / 3p

Alison

Not a wolf but could be 3p

tedxtr

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Personal reads list

Probably town / 3p off Nutella interactions

DrWilgy
SPF

Probably not mafia / soul read ; could be 3p

Poison Chan

PoE : dya / dizzy / Odd / SS / tutuu / juliets


I'll just get into ISOing in there because I feel like we're losing this game off "mechanics", should've never mass claimed and just keep hunting as it was.

I forgot to put Herm, I think he's still town imo

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:40 pm WHY WAS TUTUU ROLEBLOCKED BY THE MAFIA IF THE MAFIA WEREN'T SHOOTING INTO SPF/MAC/ALISON?

WHY I SAY?

WHYYYYYYYYY

She wasn't roleblocked; she's just pretending she was because she's scum and wants to mess up our analysis.

I confirm a mafia song was in tuutuu

What if the rogue kill mr and the roleblock on tuutuu was to kill on spf/mac/alison?

juliets targeting the nk targets twice is quite the coincidence isn't it.

[mention]juliets[/mention] why'd you pick MR? Iirc Alison claimed cop before that, didn't she? Didn't you think she'd get roleblocked by mafia?

I mean that was the plan

Juliets + tsp combo = heal + protect from other stuff MR

Tutuu = same on Alison

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:10 pm ColinIsCool, Justplayingitcool, Long Con, staypositivefriend

this is my not being villa-read pool

kind of wondering about colin or you mostly.

dya - can you talk about your jpic read on D1?

you keep questioning his play style without ever going anywhere, you put him gth villa and then 10 posts later, this is a post.

why didn't Alison get roleblocked last night? was the plan that the watchers stay on Alison or something?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:45 am juliets targeting the nk targets twice is quite the coincidence isn't it.

@juliets why'd you pick MR? Iirc Alison claimed cop before that, didn't she? Didn't you think she'd get roleblocked by mafia?

I picked MR because that's the assignment Mac gave me. It's all in the plan he published.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:49 am I mean that was the plan

Juliets + tsp combo = heal + protect from other stuff MR

Tutuu = same on Alison

Yes, this exactly [mention]tedxtr[/mention].

The only things public plans are doing is making a highlighted path towards Winsville for scum. If Mac ever makes a plan ever again, ignore it.

Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:17 am Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

Why didn't you object to having a plan when it was published?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:25 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:06 am Wut

I’m confirmed not scum kek what’s wrong with you people

You do have a green check from a cop claim that was the alleged N1 kill, it's all circumstantial evidence

Wait is this actual suspicion lmao

I’m green checked for one

For two do you really think that THREE mafia visited Mac on N1

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:21 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:17 am Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

Why didn't you object to having a plan when it was published?

I realised how bad it is now

REVISED LIST FROM POST #7660 and #7670

This was Alison's list that I updated for N3. I think I have everyone. Please let me know if you see any errors. Red is for dead.
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Alison - Cop (N1 TSP green, N2 nanook green, N3 LC green) Green does not mean they aren't 3P

TSP - X Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Vig (N2 shot JPIC, N3 holster)

Wilgy - Conditional Tracker/Random "Watcher" (N1 one person visited ted, N2 JPIC visited tutuu, N3 - TSP visited by info role)

dyachei - Tracker (N1 nanook visited Mac, N2 ted visited nanook, N3 Herm visited MR)

Dizzy - X Shot Conditional Tracker (N1 ted visited Tim, N2 didn't meet the conditions, N3 Samu visited tutuu)

juliets - X Shot Non-Civillian, Non-Lethal Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 holster, N3 MR)

Herm - "Song Cop" (N1 Amnesiac no result, N2 Kid A no result, N3 King of Limbs) [Knows mafia role cop is In Rainbows because of Poison]

Long Con - 3 Shot Mutual Voteblocker, N3 targeted Radishes

MacDougal - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but role "isn't strong")

Master Radishes - Universal Backup (N1 protected Alison with nutella's power, N2 checked nanook for vote manipulation with sprityo's power, N3 died)

nanook - Conditional Doublevoter (N1 visited Mac to fulfil his condition, N2 forgot to send in an action, N3 targeted Alison)

Oddmerta - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but isn't a vigilante)

Poison Chan - Rolecard Investigative (not sure of the specifics, but gets given a role card with alignment and song that exists in the game every night, but isn't told who the role card belongs to)(N1 checked Nude =mafia role cop, N2 checked Codex=full role card, N3 lie detected Dr. Wilgys song claim = true)

Samusamu - Song Voyeur, can only infodump if you hit no result (N1 no result on Poison Chan, N2 has a result and isn't allowed to infodump it, N3 visits tutuu and sees 2 songs, 1 of which is a mafia song) [@Samusamu do you only get the song name, or do you get other pieces of information about the song like the lyrics? You can tell me if you aren't allowed to answer this.]

SPF - ??? [@staypositivefriend did you make a claim? You're locktown so you don't have to if you don't want to, but if you did let me know and I'll record it.]

tedxtr - Vote Manipulation Nullifier (N1 Tim, N2 nanook, corroborated by trackers, Dizzy N1 and dyachei N2, N3 Nanook)

Timsup2nothin - Anti-Snowball Scaling PR (N1 roleblocked tedxtr, N2 gets a doublevote, Day 2 dead town)

tutuu - Jailkeeper/Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 Hally, N3 attempted Alison power did not go through)

lmao

wait a second

how does the jailkeeper work on this site?

why did Alison get a result on TSP if she was jailed by tutuu

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:45 am lmao

wait a second

how does the jailkeeper work on this site?

why did Alison get a result on TSP if she was jailed by tutuu

tutuu's power delays her targets results. Alison didn't get her N1 results until I think the end of N2.

I'm off to breakfast.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:13 am The only things public plans are doing is making a highlighted path towards Winsville for scum. If Mac ever makes a plan ever again, ignore it.

The plan worked fine. Alison got a clear. The top towns all survived. It forces the mafia to fire into narrow windows where they can be tracked. Which specifically happened. What's the problem? The results of the plan haven't even been played out yet.

How are we losing. There are two mafia left and a 3p vs. more than a dozen town. What's with the histrionics?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:45 am lmao

wait a second

how does the jailkeeper work on this site?

why did Alison get a result on TSP if she was jailed by tutuu

You're not even reading the game so you can spare me the criticism.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:17 am Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

And yet we have someone tracked to the kill. The claimed cop lived. Both doctor claims lived.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:01 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:17 am Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

And yet we have someone tracked to the kill. The claimed cop lived. Both doctor claims lived.

Tracking to the kill is not the same as catching the killer but whatever