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#7701

I don't think Esooa and Nanook are mafia.

For me the mafia solve is down to [Made, Mac] and [Martin, Alison]. Does anyone have a reason why this is the wrong approach?

#7702

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 pm I don't think Esooa and Nanook are mafia.

For me the mafia solve is down to [Made, Mac] and [Martin, Alison]. Does anyone have a reason why this is the wrong approach?

Does it have to be specifically these pairs together?

#7703

I don't think Martin/Alison are together. In part because I think Martin is town. In part because of other reasons

#7704

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 pm I don't think Esooa and Nanook are mafia.

For me the mafia solve is down to [Made, Mac] and [Martin, Alison]. Does anyone have a reason why this is the wrong approach?
Does it have to be specifically these pairs together?

I wouldn't say it has to be, no. But those pairs make more sense to me off-hand than any other pairs without doing a comprehensive interactions chart. I'm also just plain short on mafia suspects by POE.

#7705

what about allcrab/lost monkey(not together)

#7706

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 pm I don't think Esooa and Nanook are mafia.

For me the mafia solve is down to [Made, Mac] and [Martin, Alison]. Does anyone have a reason why this is the wrong approach?

Does wolf!Alison have a reason to push away from wolf!martin and get everyone onto wolf!orange?

Seems a bit arbitrary.

#7707

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 pm what about allcrab/lost monkey(not together)

Allcrab would be the fifth wild card name in if I needed one. I think he seems town at face value similar to Alison and Martin. I just don't see quite the same clear partner prospect for him. He could vaguely fit with one of the other four.

#7708

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 pm I don't think Esooa and Nanook are mafia.

For me the mafia solve is down to [Made, Mac] and [Martin, Alison]. Does anyone have a reason why this is the wrong approach?
Does wolf!Alison have a reason to push away from wolf!martin and get everyone onto wolf!orange?

Seems a bit arbitrary.

I don't think it's the most likely scenario, and I probably don't even consider that pair at all if not for it being Day 5 and POE being constricted. If Alison's mafia it just means she bussed her arse off. I doubt it at face value, but it also wouldn't be the first time I've seen such a thing.

#7709

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 pm what about allcrab/lost monkey(not together)

These are the other two names I would wedge in there.

But LoMo’s claim is doubly verified: on Night 1 he watched Jay and got results that allcrab can corroborate. On Night 2 he blocked me and I was indeed roleblocked.

We have already had two roleblockers flip, one for each alignment. So I believe LoMo’s JOAT claim. I won’t say that a mafia joat is completely impossible in a closed role madness game, but I don’t think it’s the most likely thing ever.

His block and protection targets are both questionable.

#7710

Garden Gnome is also a wild card that could break things open in the event she flips mafia. I don't really expect that, but we'll see what happens.

#7711

Sloonei's points for lost monkey are fair. And I personally don't view a mafia JOAT as something particularly unlikely. I'd consider that ordinary, even considering the flips so far. The only question I would have is with the protection ability -- not sure we've seen a night kill ability from anyone outside mafia. Desperados are day shots, and the poisoner had a healer instead.

#7712

omg you are tilting the shit out of me

#7713

two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?

#7714

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 pm two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?

Who’s the other joat?

#7715

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 pm two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?

Who's the confirmed town JOAT?

#7716

Is it Arete?

#7717

Also I have never heard of the role "prosecutor" that bad bunny had. Anyone know what that is?

#7718

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:59 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:58 pm two joats one is confirmed town
two healers one is flipped town

why not martin and lost monkey?
Who's the confirmed town JOAT?

tsp claimed joat

#7719

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:45 pm Hard claim JOAT

#7720

are any combinations of Martin, LoMo, Made and Alison disqualified as teammates?

#7721

Oh I didn’t see that. @TonyStarkPrime please verify whether or not that’s a finale meme and also who’d you target N4

#7722

I keep getting pings

#7723

finale meme

#7724

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:09 pm @TonyStarkPrime did you target Gnome with anything last night? If so you don't need to tell me what it was, I just need a yes or no.

No

#7725

though the question suggests that perhaps you think otherwise

#7726

I’m not reading 3+ pages of Mac vs Jay to find out

#7727

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:12 pm I’m not reading 3+ pages of Mac vs Jay to find out

He hasn’t told us why yet, I’m hoping he does.

#7728

Alright.

An investigation of some kind was targeted at Garden Gnome on Night 4. Nobody has claimed it.

Either the poisoner is also investigative (hence my Allcrab theory) or a separate unclaimed investigator hit Gnome.

#7729

Already confirmed it’s not my own voyeur ability

#7730

I am effectively vanilla town now.

#7731

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:15 pm Alright.

An investigation of some kind was targeted at Garden Gnome on Night 4. Nobody has claimed it.

Either the poisoner is also investigative (hence my Allcrab theory) or a separate unclaimed investigator hit Gnome.

Obvious option you’re missing bud

#7732

Actually no need to be cryptic I’m a walking inno child. Sean flipped an investigative

#7733

that’s right tsp has a vague idea of what’s going on

#7734

I hope Seanzie didn’t track the person I said I’d handle. But could be.

#7735

@MacDougall
@Made

Why no claims?

This doesn’t mean I am asking you to claim. I’m only asking what has held you back.

#7736

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:22 pm @MacDougall
@Made

Why no claims?

This doesn’t mean I am asking you to claim. I’m only asking what has held you back.

My claim will make me seem like a wolf.

#7737

I contemplated fake claiming something townier just because of how scummy the real claim will make me sound.

#7738

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:08 pm finale meme

Aight.

#7739

I still don't think LoMo's joat claim or his night actions should be clearing him. I didn't feel like he responded very well to the gamestate when it was at two wolves down and I haven't seen him do anything particularly townie since. Yes he has Nutella spew going for him, but Nutella spew is a meme and she knows it and she invariably would seek to correct/take advantage of it by distancing more than usual. Particularly in this game.

#7740

@lost monkey why did you block me? Why did you protect allcrab?

#7741

I have been essentially a low effort version of myself since day 2. Most of the time I was playing I was laying in bed late at night phone posting. I had been more interested in playing the role of Devil's Advocate and shitlord than doing anything meaningful. These are fair things to suspect me over and I am conscious that I literally was doing that. At no point did I think it would bite me in the bum though because until today I thought I was safely above the high water line of who is scummier. Given that is seemingly not the case I will attempt to figure out the last wolves for you nerds by sifting through dead wolf ISOs like a rabid beagle. But first I must take a piss.

#7742

It's important to note that I am way better at reading wolf flip spew than Jay because I have ultra instinct and all he has is meaningless shit like the scientific method. When's that ever helped anyone? That's right never. The Earth is flat. Suck on this.

#7743

tsp fucking stop

#7744

someone asked tsp a question and he made like 10 posts that mean nothign to anytihng and don't say anything and it tilted me off the fucking planet. I'm just going to not read them anymore

#7745

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:15 pm Alright.

An investigation of some kind was targeted at Garden Gnome on Night 4. Nobody has claimed it.

Either the poisoner is also investigative (hence my Allcrab theory) or a separate unclaimed investigator hit Gnome.

Are you intentionally being coy about the type of investigator or are you only aware that it was an investigator?

#7746

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:46 pm someone asked tsp a question and he made like 10 posts that mean nothign to anytihng and don't say anything and it tilted me off the fucking planet. I'm just going to not read them anymore

Fwiw TSP is confirmed not mafia. He can be the poisoner and is firming up as the poisoner tbh. The poisoner POE is like Alison, TSP and Allcrab. I actually think it's TSP to about the 90th percentile.

#7747

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm Is Gnome also mafia?

Well, we know for sure that Gnome isn't the poisoner. What knuckleheaded poisoner would self-poison?

#7748

Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm Is Gnome also mafia?
Well, we know for sure that Gnome isn't the poisoner. What knuckleheaded poisoner would self-poison?

That question was specifically for mac-accusing-jay.

#7749

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:54 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:38 pm Is Gnome also mafia?
Well, we know for sure that Gnome isn't the poisoner. What knuckleheaded poisoner would self-poison?
That question was specifically for mac-accusing-jay.

okay, that's fine.
I am 85 percent asleep.
I may as well go all of the way to sleep.
Good night. I am signing off until I can become (somewhat) functional.

#7750