The Syndicate

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:26 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:25 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:20 pm ergo Gullio likely has information the rest of us don't about what these 3ps are.

Yah i have. Math. Game started with 33 players. There are 7 confirmed mafia, 21 players must be town for the 3:1 ratio.
Also we’ve seen vanillas flipped, do this is not a role madness game where town gotta have more than the allotted normal to vompensate. That’s 28 players… what about the other 5 then?
Unless HK is a solo 3P and there are more like him, there gotta be another group scum, maybe a cult.

Where does it say there is an exactly 3:1 ratio?
5 3ps seems really high.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:26 pm Welp DrWilgy is trying now. Not sure what to make out of it.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:29 pm Making snap decisions really cost us D1 so I'd stay away from making last minute shifts.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:28 pm Wiggly's conclusion is pretty much the same as neeko's but Neeko thinks Sabie is far more likely to be Town than Sig just by virtue that they are the only night vigilante claim in the game versus like 5 dayvigs.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:29 pm Making snap decisions really cost us D1 so I'd stay away from making last minute shifts.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:28 pm I wouldn't bank the game on Guillotine being town. I just think it would be more optimal for someone to shoot him tomorrow because he claimed public cop of killer.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:26 pm Welp DrWilgy is trying now. Not sure what to make out of it.

Implying I haven't been trying this entire long day cycle.

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:28 pm I wouldn't bank the game on Guillotine being town. I just think it would be more optimal for someone to shoot him tomorrow because he claimed public cop of killer.

So you think i have a role that outs my killer’s alignment resulting on inno childing someone or outing them and consequently changing the dynamics of the game at the cost of my own life… as scum?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

guess it depends on your community. I've never considered them scum

wolves are scum. 3p often have independent win conditions

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm what i want to know is why anyone would believe a guillo claim?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm what i want to know is why anyone would believe a guillo claim?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.

What

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Objectively wrong.
3ps can have wincons that align with town such as Survivor who just wants to live or one who can change their alignment to match another player's (like Town of Salem had a Universal Backup that changed wincons to match the role they backedup)

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

guess it depends on your community. I've never considered them scum

wolves are scum. 3p often have independent win conditions

In almost every game 3p and town are each other enemy and cannot win together, despite 3p pretending to be able to win along town, it is usually a lie. Never trust 3p, they are scum.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:46 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:42 pm dya also shot a wolf so idk, maybe don't push on the only 2 people to actually kill wolves

Why are you associating reading someone;s ISO with pushing?

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

Objectively wrong.
3ps can have wincons that align with town such as Survivor who just wants to live or one who can change their alignment to match another player's (like Town of Salem had a Universal Backup that changed wincons to match the role they backedup)

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm The one thing I'll agree with wilgy on is the assessment that I am trying to squeeze in hunting on limited time and I come in when I can. I wasn't sure on dizzy as I'm not good at reading him. If I were his teammate I would never had killed ender and I would have probably not even talked about him at all if I didn't have to.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm what i want to know is why anyone would believe a guillo claim?

Does he have a habit of elaborate fake claims?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:33 pm what i want to know is why anyone would believe a guillo claim?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:31 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:51 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:48 pm

i'm not. you were pushing back at dya earlier

Well he/she pushed me with im focusing on “3p hunting” narrative which is not true.
Both 3p and Mafia are scum, im scum hunting, i want both death.

maybe when you read my iso you'll also get my pronouns correct. I'm a they/them. Did you know there are other options than he/she?

3p aren't scum. they're 3p

3p is scum actually

Town = town
Mafia = scum
3p = scum

guess it depends on your community. I've never considered them scum

wolves are scum. 3p often have independent win conditions

In almost every game 3p and town are each other enemy and cannot win together, despite 3p pretending to be able to win along town, it is usually a lie. Never trust 3p, they are scum.

this has not been my experience. Yes there are 3p that cant win with town, but it's certainly not every game or almost every game

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.

What

Are you the type of town player to lynch an uncounterclaimed vig claimer?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm The one thing I'll agree with wilgy on is the assessment that I am trying to squeeze in hunting on limited time and I come in when I can. I wasn't sure on dizzy as I'm not good at reading him. If I were his teammate I would never had killed ender and I would have probably not even talked about him at all if I didn't have to.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm im not even saying dont elim the outed 3p. I'm just saying we should care more about wolves, who are by definition anti town

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm im not even saying dont elim the outed 3p. I'm just saying we should care more about wolves, who are by definition anti town

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Okay but suppose I didn't want to find and read that stuff and you only have 45 seconds of my time to convince me in bite-sized pieces

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:38 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm im not even saying dont elim the outed 3p. I'm just saying we should care more about wolves, who are by definition anti town

And who is saying otherwise, all im saying is eliminate everything that does not have a town win con

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.

What

Are you the type of town player to lynch an uncounterclaimed vig claimer?

We have had a bazillion deaths in this game. I don’t think all of them were triggered by town roles.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, alexa, sig, 112, Sloonei, falcon45ca, hollowkatt, Paopan, Master Radishes, Phil and Gloria

Sloonei looks really bad here if sabie flips town vig. I don't think Sloobei easily allows the town vig to be killed.

There are probably other wolf names that I'm failing to discern if wolf or dumb town.

What

Are you the type of town player to lynch an uncounterclaimed vig claimer?

We have had a bazillion deaths in this game. I don’t think all of them were triggered by town roles.

SABIE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY PLAYER TO HAVE CLAIMED A NIGHTKILL BESIDES THE OUTED 3P

IF YOU THINK ONE OF THE VIGGERS IS WOLF THEN IT MUST BE ONE OF THE MANY DAYVIGGERS

LIKE WHERE DID DYA, ILARIO, SIG, WHATEVER RECEIVED ALL THEIR DAYVIGS?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:38 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Okay but suppose I didn't want to find and read that stuff and you only have 45 seconds of my time to convince me in bite-sized pieces

If you are convinced by a 45 second blurb of me stating 112's progression on Dizzy was jank as hell, I have some concerns.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm Vote Guillo you cowards

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:39 pm I unvoted Sabie and Sig. I'm having voters block. SOMEONE GIVE ME PILLS!!!

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:38 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:32 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:30 pm @DrWilgy unless you sell me on voting one of 112/TSP I default to bumping you back into contention because you're clearly not a strong town PR

How do you plead

I don't? I think there's decent evidence for 112 as I've provided above and I don't have enough on TSP.

If you are town you are wrong to vote me and if you are w, well gj. Ya got me!

Okay but suppose I didn't want to find and read that stuff and you only have 45 seconds of my time to convince me in bite-sized pieces

If you are convinced by a 45 second blurb of me stating 112's progression on Dizzy was jank as hell, I have some concerns.

I mean I wouldn't but have you seen my sig