The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:38 pm**

I actually think the purge was bad for town since fmpov a lot of the npc's that were purged the first time around were trying to townside.

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:38 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:30 pm i’m never voting wilgy or michelle this game, gj if one of you fooled me
I need you toDay, do you have more time to talk?
yeah, though honestly i don’t really have anything to add beyond what i already said today

i’m kinda lost because there’s so many people who are probably players that have been barely playing the game and i don’t know how to sort the wolves doing that from the villagers

A vivax Iso would help, checking interactions with vivax in alive players is also useful.

The numbers are not so much in our favor unfortunately

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:39 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:37 pm I should sleep, is 2:38 am
alright, gn

i’ll be around tomorrow if you wanna solve together

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:40 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:31 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:30 pm i’m never voting wilgy or michelle this game, gj if one of you fooled me
I need you toDay, do you have more time to talk?
yeah, though honestly i don’t really have anything to add beyond what i already said today

i’m kinda lost because there’s so many people who are probably players that have been barely playing the game and i don’t know how to sort the wolves doing that from the villagers
A vivax Iso would help, checking interactions with vivax in alive players is also useful.

The numbers are not so much in our favor unfortunately

i did skim vivax’s iso but i personally didn’t get much out of it

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:47 pm**

there’s a part of me that’s scared michelle or wilgy are wolves just because it’s been that kind of game

but they’ve been solving and townsiding more than everyone else combined so i’m just gonna clear them and hope it’s right

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:55 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:35 pm pyxxy's D7 V1 color vote count post

maybe I'll finally have no mistakes in a V1 but we'll see

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NPCs are orange, town is green, mafia is red

spoilered for size

Spoiler: show
Day 1 vote count:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea (7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu, Prince J
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
Manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1): Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha

D1 - golden died

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
Manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, Prince J, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote count

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
Manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died

missed this in my prior posts, lmao: "c4, guillo, chelsea and creature failed to reach post minimums"

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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D4 vote count

lilypetal (5): santygrass, nutella, Michelle, DeeZees, Hally
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin
enderwiggin (3): Neon, ilario, Vivax
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, DrWilgy
Manny (1): Manny
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
unvote (1): Inawordyes
schiavetto (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
ricochet (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Lumi, SilverKeith, Porscha, iaafr, Schiavetto

D4 - lilypetal died

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N4 - enderwiggin died
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D5 vote count

Vivax (5): Santygrass, DrWilgy, Seanzie, Michelle, Lumi
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy, nutella, DeeZees, Vivax
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ilario
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005, Inawordyes
unvote (1): Hally
manny (1): Manny
pyxxy (1): Neon
sprityo (1): Ricochet
Santygrass (1): falcon45ca

Not Voting (5): sprityo, SilverKeith, Porscha, Schiavetto

D5 - Vivax dies, was mafia scout

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N5 - Santygrass died
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D6 vote count

falcon45ca (6): Lumi, nutella, Porscha, Seanzie, Hally, Jackofhearts2005
pyxxy (3): Neon, DrWilgy, DeeZees
porscha (2): Michelle, falcon45ca
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Manny
neon (1): pyxxy
sprityo (1): Ricochet
spirityo (1): ilario
schiavetto (1): Inawordyes
ilario (1): sprityo

Not Voting: Schiavetto

D6 - falcon45ca dies, Nutella gets modkilled and sprityo dies for not making post min

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N6 - Seanzie dies, was town scout
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(Self)Reminder about the two power roles:
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:27 am Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter.

The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player.

The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

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Updated list of alive people after D6 + N6:

Spoiler: show
DeeZees
DrWilgy
Hally
ilario
Inawordyes
Jackofhearts2005
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
Porscha
pyxxy
Ricochet
Schiavetto

15 total....7 town, 3 mafia, 5 NPCs

D1 conclusions:
- for each player in (ilario/Neon), there is a player in (DeeZees/DrWigly)

my guess is that all 4 people are players

D2 conclusions:
- if Neon is a player, then there is at least 1 player in (Jack/DrWigly)
- ^this is also confirmed if DeeZees is a town player as they claim

I think Jack is an NPC, troll-siding

D3 conclusions:
- if DeeZees is a player as claimed, then there is at least 1 player in (Jack/ilario) and also Porscha and Neon are both players
- there's "if DeeZees is an NPC" math too but it's annoying

tie actually incredibly helpful, bless

D4 conclusions:
- at least 2 players in (Michelle/DeeZees/Hally)

imo it's very interesting that the neon wagon got cleaned out
neon (4): Seanzie, falcon45ca, Lilypetal, EnderWiggin

like, Ender was the N4 NK. kinda looks like scum wanted to slaughter this wagon?

D5 conclusions:
- at least 1 player in (DrWigly/Michelle/Lumi), or at least 2 players if DeeZees is a player as claimed

this fits the whole NPC!lumi, player DrWigly + Michelle logic

D6 conclusions:
- too annoying to spell out and tbh NPCs leave tn so w/e

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:08 pm**

I'm an NPC and bad at this game so grain of salt but

Vivax on Neon w/ chosen quotes:
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Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:33 pm Neon probs player, tentatively town on a quick skim. Porscha maybe NPC but likely town if PC.
Ranmilia wagon looks pure mostly.

Quite possibly a bunch of scum among nonvoters but phoneplaying so it‘ll be a slow chore to look further and it‘s killing my motivation (or WIM as you fancily call it)

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:36 pm
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:06 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:00 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:56 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:52 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:49 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:48 am

SK, is it true, are you a mason?
I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh?
If you're an NPC, then who even cares

If wolves want to join the masonry in order to protect us defenseless NPCs with their vote power, then who am I to judge as long as they renounce their PC ways and pursue the path of NPCism
Out of principle I don't negotiate with wolves as either alignment
I see you are not yet ready to pursue the true path of NPCism and give up all your worldly alignment-concerned ways.

The true path of NPCism doesn't see town or wolf, we just see people for who they are, not what they were randed.

Why shackle yourselves to that limited perception of binary alignment?
You might be right about that. I do feel like I'm not ready to be a true NPC sometimes.

The thing is... I have a friend out there. You wouldn't know them. But I'm pretty sure they are a player. And I think they'd appreciate if I kept my player equity for a bit longer, y'know?

We might not see the differences between our alignment, but they do, and I choose to respect their beliefs. And maybe that way, we can reach a better understanding between NPCs and Players.
This post is worded mighty harmlessly. Sounds like something Merkel would say tbh (or many others who don't try to stick their neck out but somehow it reminded me of her). Phrases and platitudes.
Makes SK yeetable for me today.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:42 am What if I deleted TSP and they weren't the mafia kill?

Anyways

[VOTE: Katze] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:04 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:55 am i rly cant imagine who would kill tsp at all lmao

but it doesnt obviously rule out pyxxy in my mind bc if pyxxy wolf i doubt hes shotcalling nks
It was me
Got a deleter claim here. Ender wants to yeet it. Quite bold from Ender or indirect CC from town ender, but then Neon could be NPC or scum which seems rather unlikely to me considering the boldness. Maybe Ender has other reasons? He's free to expound on them I guess.
Seanzie claims scout and follows it up with a vote on Neon, ergo Neon is player I suppose ? Or Seanzie is misleading as NPC. Would probably not touch any of those today.

Moving on...

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh
Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

tldr:
- vivax tr's neon to start the game
- somewhat believes ender's deleter claim
- ender dies to the NK after voting neon + deleter claim mess
- vivax tries to get the ender wagon townread, lo and behold Neon is also on that wagon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine but again I'm an NPC and my vote is purely symbolic

I might unvote before EOD if people don't want NPC votes making things confusing

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 pm**

I'm pretty obviously an NPC

This is your last day with me

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:14 pm**

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (19), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
Not Voting (2): MacDougall (2), Lumi (1)
manny (1): Manny (16)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:15 pm**

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6768

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (5), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), Porscha (23), Schiavetto (5)
vivax (5): santygrass (99), DrWilgy (50), Seanzie (119), Michelle (40), Lumi (44)
jackofhearts2005 (4): pyxxy (28), nutella (135), DeeZees (12), Vivax (32)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (14)
falcon45ca (2): Jackofhearts2005 (53), Inawordyes (92)
unvote (1): Hally (24)
manny (1): Manny (37)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
santygrass (1): falcon45ca (55)

The fact that this isn't a tie means that at least one of pyxxy or DZ is an NPC

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:15 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 pm I'm pretty obviously an NPC

our masonry lasted the maximum it could've lasted, w.

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:18 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:08 pm I'm an NPC and bad at this game so grain of salt but

Vivax on Neon w/ chosen quotes:
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Spoiler: show

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:33 pm Neon probs player, tentatively town on a quick skim. Porscha maybe NPC but likely town if PC.
Ranmilia wagon looks pure mostly.

Quite possibly a bunch of scum among nonvoters but phoneplaying so it‘ll be a slow chore to look further and it‘s killing my motivation (or WIM as you fancily call it)

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:36 pm
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:06 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:00 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:56 am
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:52 am
SilverKeith wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:49 am

I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh?
If you're an NPC, then who even cares

If wolves want to join the masonry in order to protect us defenseless NPCs with their vote power, then who am I to judge as long as they renounce their PC ways and pursue the path of NPCism
Out of principle I don't negotiate with wolves as either alignment
I see you are not yet ready to pursue the true path of NPCism and give up all your worldly alignment-concerned ways.

The true path of NPCism doesn't see town or wolf, we just see people for who they are, not what they were randed.

Why shackle yourselves to that limited perception of binary alignment?
You might be right about that. I do feel like I'm not ready to be a true NPC sometimes.

The thing is... I have a friend out there. You wouldn't know them. But I'm pretty sure they are a player. And I think they'd appreciate if I kept my player equity for a bit longer, y'know?

We might not see the differences between our alignment, but they do, and I choose to respect their beliefs. And maybe that way, we can reach a better understanding between NPCs and Players.
This post is worded mighty harmlessly. Sounds like something Merkel would say tbh (or many others who don't try to stick their neck out but somehow it reminded me of her). Phrases and platitudes.
Makes SK yeetable for me today.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:42 am What if I deleted TSP and they weren't the mafia kill?

Anyways

[VOTE: Katze] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:04 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:55 am i rly cant imagine who would kill tsp at all lmao

but it doesnt obviously rule out pyxxy in my mind bc if pyxxy wolf i doubt hes shotcalling nks
It was me
Got a deleter claim here. Ender wants to yeet it. Quite bold from Ender or indirect CC from town ender, but then Neon could be NPC or scum which seems rather unlikely to me considering the boldness. Maybe Ender has other reasons? He's free to expound on them I guess.
Seanzie claims scout and follows it up with a vote on Neon, ergo Neon is player I suppose ? Or Seanzie is misleading as NPC. Would probably not touch any of those today.

Moving on...

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:39 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:07 pm [VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh
Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

tldr:
- vivax tr's neon to start the game
- somewhat believes ender's deleter claim
- ender dies to the NK after voting neon + deleter claim mess
- vivax tries to get the ender wagon townread, lo and behold Neon is also on that wagon

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine but again I'm an NPC and my vote is purely symbolic

I might unvote before EOD if people don't want NPC votes making things confusing

yeah, i thought how vivax talked about neon seemed kinda w/w

also thought some posts seemed not w/w with porscha

but i don’t put too much stock into spew reads generally

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:19 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 pm I'm pretty obviously an NPC

This is your last day with me

alright, if this is true then someone in

Manny
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto

has to be a player unless i messed up somewhere

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:27 pm**

neon/dz/+1?

in this world i think the last would be whoever the player in lumi/rico/schia/pyxxy/manny is

don’t really think nanook or porscha are w/w with neon but i’d have to double check

i guess it could be iawy too but i dunno, he’s felt more like a villager to me

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:28 pm**

in all these posts i’m assuming illario is the deleter as claimed, which makes jack an NPC always

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm**

Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:32 pm**

Porscha
Schia
Michelle
DZ
Hally
Neon
ilario
Jack
Wilfy
Manny
Nook
IAWY
pyxxy
Ricochet

That should be the living players

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:32 pm**

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:15 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 pm I'm pretty obviously an NPC
our masonry lasted the maximum it could've lasted, w.

Tbh, highlight of the game B)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:36 pm**

Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658

Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 pm**

Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:38 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:36 pm Day 1 Vote Count
SoD: #0 EoD: #2658

Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47)
golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon (54), EnderWiggin (100), RondoDimBuckle (119), DrWilgy (17), Creature (78)
chelsea (7): Scotty (37), Golden (47), Neon (69), ilario (38), ~Prince J~ (18), Guillotine (150), tutuu (28)
unvote (3): WindwardAway (101), arogame123 (61), iaafr (133)
arogame (2): nutella (120), Sabiplz (243)
c4e5g3d5 (2): c4e5g3d5 (80), Marmot (76)
master radishes (2): Sloonei (24), sprityo (18)
sloonei (2): Ricochet (5), pyxxy (7)
lily (1): falcon45ca (17)
guillotina (1): katze (94)
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005 (62)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (17)
scotty (1): Hally (118)
guillotine (1): santygrass (29)
manny (1): Manny (165)
whomever owns this hellsite (1): hollowkatt (64)
macdougal (1): Seanzie (5)
test (1): Lumi (42)
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia (31)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (17)
iaafr (1): Chelsea (11)
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime (31)

CW only has Neon, ilario as potential players but Wilgy is basically mech confirmed a player, and so there's really no information to be gained here.

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:40 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 pm Day 2 Vote Count
SoD: #2658 EoD: #3945

Not Voting (13): MacDougall (8), katze (37), c4e5g3d5 (5), Sloonei (9), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (36), G-Man (6), risiinq- (6), Porscha (26), Inawordyes (9), WindwardAway (4), Schiavetto (14), falcon45ca (5)
santygrass (6): pyxxy (7), DeeZees (25), Creature (46), EnderWiggin (67), Vivax (26), Guillotine (48)
hollowkatt (6): Dyslexicon (46), Jackofhearts2005 (46), DrWilgy (16), santygrass (59), Ranmilia (96), tutuu (66)
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (8), hollowkatt (17), Chelsea (7)
marmot (2): Marmot (14), sprityo (6)
enderwiggin (2): Neon (19), nutella (53)
unvote (2): Hally (75), RondoDimBuckle (48)
deezees (1): iaafr (104)
scotty (1): Lilypetal (24)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (5)
manny (1): Manny (63)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (22)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (5)
nutella (1): Michelle (74)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (5)
hollowkat (1): Scotty (21)

HK had 3 votes + Jack
Santy had at most 2 votes, so no info to be gained here

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:43 pm**

Day 3 Vote Count
SoD: #3945 EoD: #5097

Not Voting (10): MacDougall (13), Lumi (45), c4e5g3d5 (3), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (7), falcon45ca (7), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5), Schiavetto (5)
drwilgy (6): SilverKeith (9), nutella (84), Vivax (53), ilario (16), EnderWiggin (37), Jackofhearts2005 (18)
ranmilia (4): iaafr (55), Porscha (47), Neon (32), Lilypetal (40)
vivax (3): DeeZees (30), santygrass (124), Ranmilia (94)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (20), katze (74)
neon (1): Seanzie (5)
scotty (1): Sloonei (8)
ran (1): DrWilgy (21)
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle (56)
lilypetal (1): Hally (68)
nanookthegreatandmightywizardfirstofhisnameandfatherofdragons (1): Scotty (22)
katze (1): G-Man (8)
manny (1): Manny (29)
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle (73)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (16)
sloonei (1): Ricochet (8)
rondo (1): Dyslexicon (9)

Wilgy has: 2 votes + ilario + Jack
Ran has: 1 vote + Porscha + Neon

Therefore if both ilario and Jack are NPCs then there's also an NPC among Porscha/Neon
Which leaves room for only 2 more NPCs which means Manny would have to be a PC

So assuming Manny and Me are NPCs, that means that there's exactly 1 NPC among Ilario and Jack and Porscha + Neon are both confirmed players.

Currently up to

Basically mech confirmed players:
Michelle
Wilgy
Porscha
Neon

NPCs:
Lumi
Manny
At least one of DZ/pyxxy
Exactly one of ilario/Jack

TBD:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:46 pm**

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5097 EoD: #5825

Not Voting (7): MacDougall (15), Lumi (32), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (40), iaafr (1), Schiavetto (5), Marmot (1)
lilypetal (5): santygrass (82), nutella (38), Michelle (41), DeeZees (26), Hally (57)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), falcon45ca (9), Lilypetal (57), EnderWiggin (36)
enderwiggin (3): Neon (50), ilario (6), Vivax (57)
falcon (2): Jackofhearts2005 (23), DrWilgy (37)
manny (1): Manny (39)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (12)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (18)
schiavetto (1): pyxxy (19)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)
ricochet (1): sprityo (5)

Lily has:
3 votes + DZ + Hally
Neon has: 3 votes

Means that there is guaranteed at least one PC among DZ and Hally

Doesn't actually tell us that much

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm**

Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah

The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario

At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

I think its time to murderize schia

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:52 pm**

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (23), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
Not Voting (1): MacDougall (2)
manny (1): Manny (17)
schiavetto (1): Lumi (13)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though

Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm**

i’m not sure why he didn’t list all his checks since he was open claiming

seems like questionable PR play

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm**

also, while we’re on that subject, if illario actually never used his deleter that’s really ??? too

dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah

The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario

At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

I think its time to murderize schia

@Hally
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes

@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy

Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.

Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:56 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm also, while we’re on that subject, if illario actually never used his deleter that’s really ??? too

dunno why he claimed it’s protown to holster it, it’s definitely not lol

Rather than bagging on PRs Seanzie and ilario, you should vote Schia B)

Let the late Seanzie rest in peace

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:58 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

why is 6v3 better than 7v3, isnt more towns = better?

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:59 pm**

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:58 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.
why is 6v3 better than 7v3, isnt more towns = better?

6v3 -> 4v3
Whereas 7v3 -> 5v3

By sleeping you get more info and one less person to potentially ML

There are sometimes exceptions, but this is not one of them

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:00 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah

The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario

At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

I think its time to murderize schia

yeah, one of schia/rico is very likely a wolf

also i’m confirmed player, seanzie said he checked me

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia

no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:06 pm**

we’re not killing schia today, just turbo them tomorrow if they’re still alive

i want as many active villagers alive to find and kill the wolves who are actual threats

schia will resolved by the purge, they’re not a threat

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow

Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:19 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 pm I'm pretty obviously an NPC

This is your last day with me
alright, if this is true then someone in

Manny
pyxxy
Ricochet
Svhiavetto

has to be a player unless i messed up somewhere

*cough cough* it’s Schia *cough cough*

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine

Schia made a blatant wolf move by posting six times ant EoD and acknowledging that they were posting a sixth time in said sixth post. Them being a minposter who comes in and makes five posts and bails had been a topic that came up several times yesterday, so for Schia to intentionally and self-awarely point it out and go above that shows that either they were actively lurking the thread (in which case, why no play game?), or someone told them in scumchat that it was getting brought up

The fact that they’re now openwolfing and nobody seems to care that they’re obviously a player is really super dang frustrating

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:55 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm Ya, not much more info to be gained

I think the useful info is:

These players are basically mech confirmed players (there are some scenarios in which they're not, but those are really weird scenarios, so...)
Michelle
Wilgy
Neon
Porscah

The list of NPCs:
LumI
Manny
One or more of DZ / pyxxy
Exactly one of Jack/Ilario

At MOST a single NPC on this list:
Hally
Schia
Ricochet
Nook
IAWY

I think its time to murderize schia
@Hally
@Michelle
@pyxxy
@DrWilgy
@Porscha
@Neon
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Inawordyes

@ilario
@Jackofhearts2005
@DeeZees
@pyxxy

Town has the incorrect parity 7v3 - Town needs to sleep to get to 6v3 at some point anyway.

Schia absolutely never is going to be allowed to live after a purge, and so right now is the time to chop it - if you hit an NPC, great, you're on correct parity. If you hit a town, well you were going to hit that town eventually anyway. If you hit a wolf, perfect.

Vote Schia today or I will shame you after the game for being bad B)

Ily Lumi, at least someone kinda understands

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm**

Day 7 Vote Count
SoD: #7749 EoD: #0

neon (3): Hally (29), Michelle (18), pyxxy (4)
schiavetto (2): Lumi (19), Inawordyes (1)
Not Voting (1): MacDougall (2)
manny (1): Manny (18)

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm**

if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

If the game is 5v3 do you think town should sleep or should they try to find the wolf?

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside

We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than Schia

Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?

i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?
i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers

You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm**

Neon almost dying and then completely falling under the radar afterwards while not really doing anything actively townie is problematic

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm**

Chopping town~Neon here is nearly game losing!

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:13 pm**

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:09 pm if you go for schia today and they end up flipping NPC, we lose an active villager in the night and have one less villager actively solving in the thread when we have to find the wolves who are posting, and we desperately need as many active villagers itt as we can possibly get

and if you go schia and they’re a wolf, it gives no info and just kills a wolf who would be outed tomorrow anyway

zero upside
We’re going to lose an active villager in the night no matter who gets chopped, I know it’s probably not your intention but the way that’s worded it sounds like you want to chop someone who could end up also being an active villager and have two die just so that it’s someone other than Schia

Schia’s death doesn’t change who the mafia decide to NK, unless we chop that player ourselves in our terribadness

i want to kill a wolf today who is actually a threat to us BEFORE wolves have a chance to kill one of me/michelle/wilgy because i think this town needs all the help it can get to find the more active wolves and i don’t trust we’ll be able to do it if we lose another one of our most active solvers

Posted: **Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 pm**

Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:12 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:11 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:07 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:03 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:53 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:51 pm
Lumi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:31 pm Btw Seanzie wanted to kill Schia, Seanzie was scout, Seanzie might have known Schia was a player. We're on incorrect parity at 7v3 so I think we kill Schia here as a sort of wolf-equity sleep vote.

[VOTE: Schiavetto] aubergine
if seanzie had a player check on schia he would have claimed it 100%

also if you read his posts, i think it’s pretty clear he didn’t check schia

i think he checked neon and illario as players though
Town is on wrong parity right now, so they need a sleep anyway, it is absolutely the right play to use a "sleep" vote on an NPC that also has significant wolf equity in Shia
no, we should go for a player in the PoE and leave schia/rico to get sorted by the purge

if we go schia today wolves will just kill one of me/michelle/wilgy tonight and there will be one less active villager alive to help kill the more active wolves

there’s no upside to it when we can just turbo whichever of schia/rico is still alive tomorrow
Do you think that if the game is 5v3 that town should sleep or should town just try to find a wolf among the 8 players?
i think that in this particular game town needs all the help we can get and we shouldn’t let wolves kill off another villager regardless of the numbers
You're acting like Neon is a flipped wolf, why do you scumread Neon so much?

i didn’t say it had to be neon? but i do think she’s pretty likely to be a wolf

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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)

Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 6 Ends 10am Dec 20 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)