Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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not a great post m'lordMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:48 pmWhy is my alignment difficult to figure out?
My play yesterday created a POE that led to Seanzie's death and probably the death of several other wolves.
It isn't hard to figure out my alignment like literally just read my posts man.
If mac's kill is compelled and he had 3 ppl vote him n1 (including me) then he killed someone n1.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 pm we should be careful to not clear people just for the claims. if they haven't shot a wolf. the wolf team had a plan, alison claiming and all that
seanzie also claimed without being pressured i think
mostly for @Porscha for your townread on mac based off his d1 claim/soft
Well, I'm happy I'm the least, at least.sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:56 pmI’ve seen you defend yourself a bit and golden defend you, but out of all the lower content/under the radar style players you’re the least Under it.
Outside of the defense I don’t recall much else though
well there was n0, i can imagine a rolepeek n0, or nanook giving some kind of tools to the mafia so they dont get shafted by all the town just claiming their roles for free and getting townread in a closed game due to similar town roles design, town shouldnt be able to do that. i dunnoPorscha wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:02 pmIf mac's kill is compelled and he had 3 ppl vote him n1 (including me) then he killed someone n1.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 pm we should be careful to not clear people just for the claims. if they haven't shot a wolf. the wolf team had a plan, alison claiming and all that
seanzie also claimed without being pressured i think
mostly for @Porscha for your townread on mac based off his d1 claim/soft
Also just kinda overly convenient that hed claim a role that ended up being identical to someone else's who flipped and we already have noted that may roles are copied or very similar
So did he read the future? Do maf have a role reader that read creatures role n1 for mac to claim it day 2? (Again, despite mac already leaning into a similar claim)
This is what prevents me from considering mac a wolf right now because unless exactly what I just said just so happened to work out that way and nobody noticed mac's compelled kill vs Alison's claim, then like. That's the only possible way
I’ll go back and find the Sean and Alison d1 stuff at some point. They were veeeeery reluctant to concede a town read on Kate. Felt very ‘hey, don’t steal our lhf’ to me. It was a central reason I picked Alison for the neighbourhood to begin with.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:59 pm I don't know if I agree but you know Kate much better than I so I'd be willing to accept a D3 specific pass for her.
This kinda looks good for Golden even more,+ KateAlison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)
What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?
What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.
Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?
You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.
You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.
> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.
> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.
On a scale of 1 to 122, how many of my posts in this game have you actually looked at?Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pm probably 1 or 2 mafia in radish and sloonei. a lot of LHF this game, need to chop them up eventually
100.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pmThis kinda looks good for Golden even more,+ KateAlison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:10 am> What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:03 am I have so much difficulty with the perspective going on here (and just in Alison’s posts generally)
What is my mafia justification for saying I town read Kate then having no desire to convince people?
What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
You’re calling out things you can objectively claim are weird. But why is it bad? Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
When someone comes in the thread pointing out weird shit and calling it all suspicious without analysis of why they think it’s wolf-leaning, that bothers me.
Alison, why do you think your above description of my behaviour towards Kate is wolf-leaning?
You have TMI on Kate/want to look good if she flips town but don't actually want to talk the town out of voting her out.
You're pushing an agenda that involves Kate being town but struggle to back it up with real reasons because it's not a genuine read.
> What is the mafia jusrifucation in Kate awkwardly claiming vanilla?
Lots of people claim their roles early when they feel under pressure which Kate clearly did. Vanilla is a role that is not easily disproven in the way that a role with a more active component might be. But beyond that it's just an unlikely role to exist in the game, as previous GOCs have been role madness and nanook is not a host that is likely to make a game more mountainous.
> Town does weird shot all the time. You gotta be able to figure out wilgys town weird shit from his wolf weird shit.
No I don't. Whenever people act weird I just kill them.
reminder for this
Okay reading Alison I'm definitely coming around to Golden's POV.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:38 amI did a complete 180 because I tried to angleshoot the colored text. Which was a bad read, but I had you as scummy on play before then, which means I am more than capable of catching you on play when you are mafia.Kate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:36 am
You are seriously over estimating yourself. Yeah, you called me bad in carto and then you did a complete 180.
In fact I had an even stronger push on you in Carto than I did here. So it is extremely suspicious that you are trying to make it out like me having strong reads is a "reach".
about 60, i havent found anything to townread you off ofSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmOn a scale of 1 to 122, how many of my posts in this game have you actually looked at?Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pm probably 1 or 2 mafia in radish and sloonei. a lot of LHF this game, need to chop them up eventually
I think there are things in there. Others, including nutella, have stuck up for at various points in this game.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:09 pmabout 60, i havent found anything to townread you off ofSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmOn a scale of 1 to 122, how many of my posts in this game have you actually looked at?Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pm probably 1 or 2 mafia in radish and sloonei. a lot of LHF this game, need to chop them up eventually
Sideways bussing is pretty standard for Alison's treatment of partners.
im tinfoiling neon 3p serial killer or something coz shes alive lol
I strongly implore you to simply read my iso. Thanks.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:53 pmYou created a POE that led to Sean's death? How did you do that?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:48 pmWhy is my alignment difficult to figure out?
My play yesterday created a POE that led to Seanzie's death and probably the death of several other wolves.
It isn't hard to figure out my alignment like literally just read my posts man.
From what I've read, you did back of sean and push the Rondo wagon down the stretch. I do think his alignment does give me a better idea of what yours is.
112 is a good townvig shot imoEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:03 pm 112 doesn't get townreads for the Alison stuff tbh.
Too weak to get towncred.
she killed creature instead of rondo which sketched me out so ill keep it in the back of my head to not fully trust her for laterEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:17 pm Also like Neon is effectively leashed. They can't kill anyone too towny without hard outing themselves as not being town.
That's fine.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19 pmshe killed creature instead of rondo which sketched me out so ill keep it in the back of my head to not fully trust her for laterEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:17 pm Also like Neon is effectively leashed. They can't kill anyone too towny without hard outing themselves as not being town.
I sus you because you're too sexy.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:20 pm I have overnight solving notes I intend to share soon I'm just busy with work.
The suspicion on me can only really be coming from people who are using very little discretionary thought.
I was the main person responsible for a gamestate that led to the EOD and then literally walked away from it.
Why would I do that if I was mafia with anyone who was a threat to go over?
If you wish to humour I am the big bad from the as yet untouched second team you may make such arguments if you wish but you would need to believe neither of Rondo or Marmot are on said team. If this is your idea then by all means make a case but I'm not going to really be tolerant of arbitrarily suspecting me for bad or no reasons simply because I'm alive.
Sorry for misinterpreting.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:01 pmMy question of "How did you do that?" might've sounded like snark, but I meant it earnestly.Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:54 pmI do think this under-credits Macs role in Seanzie being on the table to begin with.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:53 pmYou created a POE that led to Sean's death? How did you do that?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:48 pmWhy is my alignment difficult to figure out?
My play yesterday created a POE that led to Seanzie's death and probably the death of several other wolves.
It isn't hard to figure out my alignment like literally just read my posts man.
From what I've read, you did back of sean and push the Rondo wagon down the stretch. I do think his alignment does give me a better idea of what yours is.
I don't know how I feel about this. But it's something.
what does that mean lol, how do you plan on expressing your lack of tolerance?
HmmmAlison wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:51 amWasn't I literally mafia in that game?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:50 amHear me out Mac,MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:45 amI think you should hit the bricks. You need a mid season finale before the ratings fall off.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:44 amI have decided unrelated to this post that Alison might possibly be scum. More news at 6
She stated with no equivocation that I am town because of my high WIM and long posts. I believe this could be TMI because she has stated previously that I had high wim, long posts and solvy energy ergo I was trying hard and ergo I was Mafia. Yet this game it is the opposite?
I’m not gonna open myself up to being souped, I’ll just say I haven’t revealed the true and exact nature of my power either here or in the neighbourhood, I lied to Alison about what it did, and if Alison’s team shot me last night Alison would have died.sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:43 pmI’m confused so you do or don’t have the redirect power?Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 pm Sweet. Ok then yeah it’s my fault nutella died. Sorry nut.
Hard-claiming town neighbourhood. I brought in Alison yesterday. I told her I’d bring nutella in as a test.
I also did not trust Alison and lied entirely about the nature of my neighbourhood to her. I brought her into the neighbourhood because I thought she was wolf. I redirected any kill shot on me onto her which is why I was double checking… mafia kill could have been Alison. I was hoping I’d played my ability up as powerful enough that I’d be the one targeted and Alison would take the hit. Meh, never mind.
Anyway, bringing nut in was also not the truth. I’ll quote everything Alison said to me in the neighbourhood in here in due course (Ie not while I’m at work) in case it spews anything.
Since I was getting ready to coast on my town laurels for a few phases and you might be about to really mess that up for me golden
Disregard and disapproval in a mocking tone.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:22 pmwhat does that mean lol, how do you plan on expressing your lack of tolerance?
sounds funMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:25 pmDisregard and disapproval in a mocking tone.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:22 pmwhat does that mean lol, how do you plan on expressing your lack of tolerance?
My hero.Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:06 pmI’ll go back and find the Sean and Alison d1 stuff at some point. They were veeeeery reluctant to concede a town read on Kate. Felt very ‘hey, don’t steal our lhf’ to me. It was a central reason I picked Alison for the neighbourhood to begin with.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:59 pm I don't know if I agree but you know Kate much better than I so I'd be willing to accept a D3 specific pass for her.
i misunderstood my ability because of how it was worded. It's not a 1 shot just a long sequence that can be interrupted if the person diesParty Crasher wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:18 pm @Lilypetal how did you mark someone (wilgy? gun? something?) on n2 i thought you said you were a 1 shot ability and it ended up being wasted on sabi n1
I apologise profusely for being hostile yesterday, mac. I was so fixated on not letting there be a rift in Alison feeling like there was this safe towncore in place, and I had difficulty with trying to convince you my motives were good while lying about them. I think you could probably perceive something wasn’t quite kosher there.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:24 pm I am also ok a final warning before I get banned for being hostile so think before you engage me in a hostile manner today please.
