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a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote: a2thezebra

DIE CIS SCUM

But seriously this game's design is incredible. Props to you good sir.

Oopsie! Sorry, fine lady!

And thank you!

I have updated the Rules post with this: The Circle of Decay has the opportunity to kill on odd nights, and the Witherdeath Cabal may kill on even nights. No one is killing on Night 0.

I have updated the Map post with this: If two or more players move to the same square, the one that sent in their movement first will arrive on the square first. If there is an Item on that square, then the first one to arrive will have the first opportunity to pick that item up. So getting your movement PM in early is generally advantageous.

Finally checking in. I voted Rock in the sense of 1950's Rock n' Roll, and also the Beatles.

Some role questions in blue.



Cataclysm - Begins the game with four subterranean pulse emitters.

What is a subterranean pulse emitter and what does it do?



Chaos Wizard - The Chaos Wizard has a tower somewhere on the map, and starts on that square. Can do a variety of things from within the Tower:

- can create a Chaos Field around the tower, and anyone approaching will have their direction randomized (within one square of the Tower). Protected from ranged attacks (like kills where the killer isn’t on your square) while the Chaos Field is active
- can choose two players and switch their location, and targeted-ness that night
- can send a message to a player

If the Chaos Wizard leaves the tower, he will automatically randomize the targeting of any role within a two-square radius.

How long does the Chaos Field last?



Lich of Khastor Keep - Cannot be nightkilled while his phylactery exists. Each night, the Lich may discover the location of one player. Can stop one lynch.

What is a phylactery and what does it do?



Living Statue - Cannot move until united with the Star Gem. Immune to nightkills and poison. Will know the role of each person to enter its square.

When the Star Gem is placed in the Living Statue’s chest, it gains a movement rate of 4 and no longer rolechecks. The Living Statue will join the Win Condition of the one who placed the Star Gem, gaining BTSC if it joins a baddie team.

Is the Star Gem located on the map somewhere?



The Darkness - Infects one player per night with darkness, causing them to lose their win condition. The Darkness can send one message each night to those it infects, and may choose to release a player from the darkness at any time. The Darkness will know where infected players are at all times.

If the Darkness is night-targeted, the targeting will fail as though a roleblock or protection were in play. The Darkness may enter the BTSC of any square it’s on as The Darkness. Otherwise, it is undetectable.

If an infected player is targeted by the Essence Elemental, then they are cleansed of infection. If the Darkness is targeted by the Essence Elemental, it is killed! If The Darkness infects the Essence Elemental, the Essence Elemental will be killed.

The Darkness cannot acquire Items. *secrets*

Will players be informed of their lost win condition?
Do items work on the Darkness?

S~V~S wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I hope everyone is keen to vote MattF along with me. Floyd? Can you get your mates to help me railroad Matt on day 1?

Matt F wrote:Friends of Floyd - Please do not lynch me

So is this a joke carried from the other game, or are you two teammates, or what?

He keeps saying he's going to vote for me in this game and in Dune. Here is one of his posts in Dune:

MacDougall wrote:

sig wrote:As tricky as your question I would say.

Hang on MattF is playing.

Placeholder vote for MattF.

I think he's joking, so I'm having fun back with him. However, it's entirely possible he will tunnel me in both games until (as he states) one of us is dead. You'll have to ask him.

Matt F wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I hope everyone is keen to vote MattF along with me. Floyd? Can you get your mates to help me railroad Matt on day 1?

Matt F wrote:Friends of Floyd - Please do not lynch me

So is this a joke carried from the other game, or are you two teammates, or what?

He keeps saying he's going to vote for me in this game and in Dune. Here is one of his posts in Dune:

MacDougall wrote:

sig wrote:As tricky as your question I would say.

Hang on MattF is playing.

Placeholder vote for MattF.

I think he's joking, so I'm having fun back with him. However, it's entirely possible he will tunnel me in both games until (as he states) one of us is dead. You'll have to ask him.

I WAS kinda asking both of you, so I did ask him~


And yeah, I was going back and forth a lot yesterday, I guess I must have thought all of those posts were in this thread, and I was like, "All right already, we get it, you don't trust each other, enough with the overkill", then it was a "hmm" thing. So fair enough.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: What is a phylactery and what does it do?

A phylactery is a box with Hebrew scripture in it, worn during religious practice. I have no idea what it would do in the game though.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: What is a phylactery and what does it do?

A phylactery is a box with Hebrew scripture in it, worn during religious practice. I have no idea what it would do in the game though.

I believe liches and other such evil beings are also said to keep their soul/spirit/essence within them to give them immortality, and destruction of a phylactery is a sure way of killing a lich.

Source: I'm a massive nerd.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Some role questions in blue.



Cataclysm - Begins the game with four subterranean pulse emitters.

What is a subterranean pulse emitter and what does it do?

Maybe you'll find out if you get a hold of one!

Chaos Wizard - The Chaos Wizard has a tower somewhere on the map, and starts on that square. Can do a variety of things from within the Tower:

- can create a Chaos Field around the tower, and anyone approaching will have their direction randomized (within one square of the Tower). Protected from ranged attacks (like kills where the killer isn’t on your square) while the Chaos Field is active
- can choose two players and switch their location, and targeted-ness that night
- can send a message to a player

If the Chaos Wizard leaves the tower, he will automatically randomize the targeting of any role within a two-square radius.

How long does the Chaos Field last?

It lasts for one phase... basically if he's in the Tower, and doesn't message anyone or switch anyone, then the field is active.

Lich of Khastor Keep - Cannot be nightkilled while his phylactery exists. Each night, the Lich may discover the location of one player. Can stop one lynch.

What is a phylactery and what does it do?

Let me tell you about Liches first. A Lich is a powerful dark wizard who has achieved a form of immortality by binding his or her soul to an object. This object is known as the Lich's phylactery. As long as the phylactery is safe, then the Lich's immortality is secure. Destroy the phylactery, and the Lich is vulnerable.

Living Statue - Cannot move until united with the Star Gem. Immune to nightkills and poison. Will know the role of each person to enter its square.

When the Star Gem is placed in the Living Statue’s chest, it gains a movement rate of 4 and no longer rolechecks. The Living Statue will join the Win Condition of the one who placed the Star Gem, gaining BTSC if it joins a baddie team.

Is the Star Gem located on the map somewhere?

Why yes... yes it is.

The Darkness - Infects one player per night with darkness, causing them to lose their win condition. The Darkness can send one message each night to those it infects, and may choose to release a player from the darkness at any time. The Darkness will know where infected players are at all times.

If the Darkness is night-targeted, the targeting will fail as though a roleblock or protection were in play. The Darkness may enter the BTSC of any square it’s on as The Darkness. Otherwise, it is undetectable.

If an infected player is targeted by the Essence Elemental, then they are cleansed of infection. If the Darkness is targeted by the Essence Elemental, it is killed! If The Darkness infects the Essence Elemental, the Essence Elemental will be killed.

The Darkness cannot acquire Items. *secrets*

Will players be informed of their lost win condition?
Do items work on the Darkness?

You will know if your Win Condition has been lost. Items can work on The Darkness.

Linki: Thank you, fellow nerd!

TheFloyd73 wrote:

reywaS wrote:hello hello hello

'Ello governor, how are you?

awesome! Nice to meet you, Floyd.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: What is a phylactery and what does it do?

A phylactery is a box with Hebrew scripture in it, worn during religious practice. I have no idea what it would do in the game though.

I find it kind of amusing that I'm not the one that answered this. Also, I believe that while it's generally used to refer to t'fillin (the box with hebrew scripture you wear on your head) it's actually, technically speaking, a thing that has something in it that you wear on the head.

It's just not a term that comes up much, for any purpose, outside of Jewish ritual.

Just an FYI, for the duration of the World Series, I will be scarce during game times. As a lifelong Mets fan, this is a squeeeee moment for me.

Hopefully it is not rained out tonight

S~V~S wrote:Just an FYI, for the duration of the World Series, I will be scarce during game times. As a lifelong Mets fan, this is a squeeeee moment for me.

Hopefully it is not rained out tonight

It being not 1986, I'm rooting for the Mets.

Im waiting for the Australian footy season. Five months to go...

Looking forward to this.

Long Con wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Long Con wrote: a2thezebra

DIE CIS SCUM

But seriously this game's design is incredible. Props to you good sir.

Oopsie! Sorry, fine lady!

And thank you!

No, thank you, gentleman!

S~V~S wrote:

Matt F wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I hope everyone is keen to vote MattF along with me. Floyd? Can you get your mates to help me railroad Matt on day 1?

Matt F wrote:Friends of Floyd - Please do not lynch me

So is this a joke carried from the other game, or are you two teammates, or what?

He keeps saying he's going to vote for me in this game and in Dune. Here is one of his posts in Dune:

MacDougall wrote:

sig wrote:As tricky as your question I would say.

Hang on MattF is playing.

Placeholder vote for MattF.

I think he's joking, so I'm having fun back with him. However, it's entirely possible he will tunnel me in both games until (as he states) one of us is dead. You'll have to ask him.

I WAS kinda asking both of you, so I did ask him~


And yeah, I was going back and forth a lot yesterday, I guess I must have thought all of those posts were in this thread, and I was like, "All right already, we get it, you don't trust each other, enough with the overkill", then it was a "hmm" thing. So fair enough.

Would you prefer me to vote for you?

Are you threatening me for asking a question?

S~V~S wrote:Are you threatening me for asking a question?

Yes

I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?

S~V~S wrote:I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?

Do you plan on feigning sincerity and building cases on joke posts made on day 0 for the remainder of the game? Rather opportunistic in my opinion.

And no I do not. Only until MattF gets lynched.

MattF is the perfect day 1 lynch in every game he plays. As a townie he distracts from genuine scum hunting with tunneling, a lack of focus and volumes upon volumes of posts trying to get people to ignore their genuine scum hunting efforts and follow his uninspired scumdar ... and of course there is as good a chance that he's scum as anybody else. He's a policy lynch for me in every game he plays. I make no apologies for this.

This is after he proposed I quit playing Mafia for three months after he flips town in another game. He flipped scum.

Matt F wrote:This is after he proposed I quit playing Mafia for three months after he flips town in another game. He flipped scum.

Can someone else please point out to Matt that his case on me was a far fetched serial killer case based on his interpretation of night role actions and he actually had nothing to do with me getting lynched as scum so he stops claiming he did?

Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.

MacDougall wrote:

Matt F wrote:This is after he proposed I quit playing Mafia for three months after he flips town in another game. He flipped scum.

Can someone else please point out to Matt that his case on me was a far fetched serial killer case based on his interpretation of night role actions and he actually had nothing to do with me getting lynched as scum so he stops claiming he did?

Ah, but your reaction to said case got the ball moving on others thinkin' you were scum.

(Anyway, this is gettin' weird. We're spamming two games with your stalking of me)

MacDougall wrote:Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.

Spreading lies gets you nowhere. If you're not informed on whether or not I broke a rule, I suggest you PM the site administrator and I guarantee you he will tell you otherwise.

Also, you brought up your agenda, and this is based on one game you've played with me, so technically, you started discussing the game before I did.

Matt F wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.

Spreading lies gets you nowhere. If you're not informed on whether or not I broke a rule, I suggest you PM the site administrator and I guarantee you he will tell you otherwise.

Also, you brought up your agenda, and this is based on one game you've played with me, so technically, you started discussing the game before I did.

Vaguely referencing your meta =/= discussing the exact outcomes of a game currently in progress.

MacDougall wrote:

Matt F wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Also Matt that game is still currently running so talking about it in this thread is the second time you've broken site rules on that subject today.

Spreading lies gets you nowhere. If you're not informed on whether or not I broke a rule, I suggest you PM the site administrator and I guarantee you he will tell you otherwise.

Also, you brought up your agenda, and this is based on one game you've played with me, so technically, you started discussing the game before I did.

Vaguely referencing your meta =/= discussing the exact outcomes of a game currently in progress.

Dude, whatever man. You started this crazy "I'm gonna tunnel Matt F every single game we play", I can guarantee you I have never done something like this. Also, it takes two seconds for any player to look into the TH thread to see your outcome. It's not like it was a secret, bro. Again, you brought it up, I kindly responded.

MacDougall wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?

Do you plan on feigning sincerity and building cases on joke posts made on day 0 for the remainder of the game? Rather opportunistic in my opinion.

And no I do not. Only until MattF gets lynched.

You have clearly never met SVS. I don't see her feigning sincerity at all here. And I've seen baddies caught day 1 due to joke posts. Baddie slips, actually I find, more often than not happen in less serious posts.

MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.

That's not very good strategy, and certainly isn't helpful in finding mafia.

MacDougall wrote:MattF is the perfect day 1 lynch in every game he plays. As a townie he distracts from genuine scum hunting with tunneling, a lack of focus and volumes upon volumes of posts trying to get people to ignore their genuine scum hunting efforts and follow his uninspired scumdar ... and of course there is as good a chance that he's scum as anybody else. He's a policy lynch for me in every game he plays. I make no apologies for this.

Oh, so now you're not joking?!

How many games have you played with him? And someone having a different strategy than yours in finding baddies doesn't mean that they are a distraction. Policy lynches don't really make sense strategically--just like random votes don't really make sense imho, or policy self votes. Find people you suspect and explain why you suspect them. It's what civies do.

I make no apologies for suspecting you.

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I am not sure I would define that as sarcasm, but OK.

Do you plan on making sarcastic responses to serious questions for the remainder of the game?

Do you plan on feigning sincerity and building cases on joke posts made on day 0 for the remainder of the game? Rather opportunistic in my opinion.

And no I do not. Only until MattF gets lynched.

You have clearly never met SVS. I don't see her feigning sincerity at all here. And I've seen baddies caught day 1 due to joke posts. Baddie slips, actually I find, more often than not happen in less serious posts.

MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.

That's not very good strategy, and certainly isn't helpful in finding mafia.

MacDougall wrote:MattF is the perfect day 1 lynch in every game he plays. As a townie he distracts from genuine scum hunting with tunneling, a lack of focus and volumes upon volumes of posts trying to get people to ignore their genuine scum hunting efforts and follow his uninspired scumdar ... and of course there is as good a chance that he's scum as anybody else. He's a policy lynch for me in every game he plays. I make no apologies for this.

Oh, so now you're not joking?!

How many games have you played with him? And someone having a different strategy than yours in finding baddies doesn't mean that they are a distraction. Policy lynches don't really make sense strategically--just like random votes don't really make sense imho, or policy self votes. Find people you suspect and explain why you suspect them. It's what civies do.

I make no apologies for suspecting you.

Show me where a baddie was caught on day 1 due to a joke post please. I'd like a link to that thread.

I disagree you see because now you are inspired to build a case because of what I have done. It may be on me, but now we have a subject to talk about. Conversation to have. It's an enjoyable experience for all. The game has started in earnest and we have hit the ground running. No fuckery.

Well I am and I'm not.

Apologise for suspecting me? What do you suspect me of? You needn't apologise to me for anything my love.

The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

Mr. Lorab?

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

Terribly sorry is it Mrs. Lorab?

MacDougall wrote:Terribly sorry is it Mrs. Lorab?

Miss LoRab, Ms LoRab, Rabbi LoRab, Twirly LoRab....I'm not picky.

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.

is my smiley for a reason.

And it depends on if the roles were designed with teams, or if LC randomized which roles/players were on which team. I don't think he's clarified that and I can see him doing either. Also, knowing the host, if he did design it with certain roles being civ/bad/indy, then it's probably, at least in part, the ones that are least likely to be in any of those allignments.

I'd rather focus on which players are acting suspiciously, and worry less about particular role (which is how I generally play the game regardless). I think figuring out which roles we think are bad and which players we think have which roles is a dangerous path.

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.

is my smiley for a reason.

And it depends on if the roles were designed with teams, or if LC randomized which roles/players were on which team. I don't think he's clarified that and I can see him doing either. Also, knowing the host, if he did design it with certain roles being civ/bad/indy, then it's probably, at least in part, the ones that are least likely to be in any of those allignments.

I'd rather focus on which players are acting suspiciously, and worry less about particular role (which is how I generally play the game regardless). I think figuring out which roles we think are bad and which players we think have which roles is a dangerous path.

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. So you suspect me of being a role that is probably, at least in part, one of the ones that are least likely to be any of those alignments?

Interesting questions that poses to me.

MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.

....

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:It is my modus operandi as a mafia player on this website to tunnel MattF in every game until one of us are dead. You are officially forewarned of my intention in every game we both play in.

....

Hello Dom! Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

Don't mind that post my friend. I was just being a little bit playful.

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

LoRab wrote:The apology was simply replying to your not apologizing for policy voting Matt in every game.

I know that 2 baddies in LOST on The Piano were lynched for jokey posts (they were my teammates), but you can't exactly get to that. If you search chubbz on Lostpedia, I'm quite certain that you can find multiple games as examples. The first star wars game, I believe. And Harry Potter, I think, both come to mind.

And I suspect you of being bad, for the record.

Hmm Mr. LoRab your examples aren't exactly convincing. I can show you endless examples of scum players saying "the" in a thread. That doesn't mean we should lynch players who say "the".

You suspect me of being bad? What roles do you consider bad in this particular design of game?

No, and I'm not suspecting you for making a jokey post--I'm suspecting you for the content of that post and your subsequent posts.

The roles not specifying which are bad and which are civ is irrelevant to the fact that the host has made it clear that players are bad are good. I think that the players who are on the 2 baddie teams are bad. And the darkness. And possibly the other indies (hard to know with indies). Or are you going to try to convince us that there aren't really baddies in this game because the roles don't specify them (even though we have been told multiple times that there are baddies).

Also, I'm female.

I am very sorry about that. How embarrassing for me.

Let me clarify my question for you.

I wouldn't try to convince you of that. I simply would not be aware of which roles were in fact bad. Aside from the obvious one. And in the interest of encouraging discussion I thought I would ask for your opinion.

linki: Twirly LoRab. I like that.

is my smiley for a reason.

And it depends on if the roles were designed with teams, or if LC randomized which roles/players were on which team. I don't think he's clarified that and I can see him doing either. Also, knowing the host, if he did design it with certain roles being civ/bad/indy, then it's probably, at least in part, the ones that are least likely to be in any of those allignments.

I'd rather focus on which players are acting suspiciously, and worry less about particular role (which is how I generally play the game regardless). I think figuring out which roles we think are bad and which players we think have which roles is a dangerous path.

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. So you suspect me of being a role that is probably, at least in part, one of the ones that are least likely to be any of those alignments?

Interesting questions that poses to me.

I have no idea what role you are. I do suspect that you are a baddie.

Also, having nothing to do with this particular conversation, but before I forget, I'm out of town at a convention all next week (Monday to Monday). OK, I'm going to Harry Potter World, then the convention, then Disney World (because, Orlando). I will be around, but my timing may be wonky. Even more than usual.

In related news, I'll be shaving my head to raise money for childhood cancer while I'm there, to raise money for the St Baldricks Foundation, which directly funds childhood cancer research through grants. So, I will look like this as of next Thursday If any of you are interested in donating (and thanks to those of you that donated the first time I did this), lemme know and I'm happy to share the link to donate.

Meant to share all that in the sign up thread before roles went out, but then I completely forgot.

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Now Terry, remember what we talked about? Your incessant shouting and constant outbursts are frightening to some players. Why, you might just scare away some of the new folks who just joined the forum recently.