The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:Almost half the field is laying low.

It's certainly not ideal.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:With the burglary about to begin, my time is going to be divided. About 45 minutes remain here and we have a pile of single votes.

I'm starting a wagon now. You should join \o/
I'm feeling good about this.

Dyslexicon wrote:I want to lynch Luke. I think he's mafia avoiding responsibility.

Vote Luke

He put up the primary case against you.

Epignosis wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I want to lynch Luke. I think he's mafia avoiding responsibility.

Vote Luke

He put up the primary case against you.

Color me uninpressed.

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:With the burglary about to begin, my time is going to be divided. About 45 minutes remain here and we have a pile of single votes.

I'm starting a wagon now. You should join \o/
I'm feeling good about this.

Why Luke? What separates him from the other people who aren't posting much for you?

Dyslexicon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I want to lynch Luke. I think he's mafia avoiding responsibility.

Vote Luke

He put up the primary case against you.

Color me uninpressed.

If Luke had made a similar case against someone else, say, me, would you be voting him right now?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:With the burglary about to begin, my time is going to be divided. About 45 minutes remain here and we have a pile of single votes.

I'm starting a wagon now. You should join \o/
I'm feeling good about this.

The preblaming of the Nut lynch, the double color on Long Con (not really sorting people but doing rainbows like everyone else), making a case on someone who is not in danger of being lynched (can't be blamed again), and disappearing when asked questions.

Epignosis wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I want to lynch Luke. I think he's mafia avoiding responsibility.

Vote Luke

He put up the primary case against you.

Color me uninpressed.

If Luke had made a similar case against someone else, say, me, would you be voting him right now?

Yeah. I'm a bit of an omgus player, but that isn't my reason.

@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Or anyone else for that matter.

Not really.

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

Here's my beef with insertnamehere and why I think he should be lynched (I say this passively because I can't lynch him alone, and I don't know who else will vote for him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).



His posts can be categorized into three phases. First we have Day 0.
States a suspicion of Epignosis, potentially an intentional ambiguous one that spurs a retaliation from Epignosis. Whatever, I don't really care that much, it's Day 0. But this is followed by an almost 3 day absense leading to his return at the End of Day 1, and Phase 2 of his posts.
These posts all came in a ~40-minute span at the end of Day 1, crossing over into Night 1.

The main thing I don't like: inh argues against the CFD strategy quite a bit here. Simultaneously, he maintains that nutella is his top suspect. There is the caveat that inh had votes at the time, but he endorsed nutella's lynch while arguing against the method used to lynch her.

Actually, inh spent more time arguing against CFD's than anything else in this period.

Then we have his lone Day 2 post, again following a 3-day absense.




I find the suspicion of Jay far from convincing. I want more explanation on all three of these suspects.

FZ is an easy target, perhaps like insertnamehere. I find her defenses and attempts more convincing than inh's.

Have I been that lazy? I don't think so. This post is lazy.

I've already talked about the Jay thing, but this suspicion is out of left-field, and coming from a player who is a likely lynch candidate today. If insertnamehere is mafia, I'd be Jay is a teammate, for this and other reasons.

I could lynch INH.

EBWOP: I'd bet Jay is a teammate.

Linki: Oh hai. Will you join me in an insertnamehere lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

Marmot wrote:EBWOP: I'd bet Jay is a teammate.

Linki: Oh hai. Will you join me in an insertnamehere lynch?

What leads you to believe that INH and I are teammates?

What do you think of Wilgy and FZ?

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

I do think Luke is a civilian, and putting forth an effort to mimic what other civilians are doing.

Of course, there is the chance he's mafia and being guided by a seasoned mafia player. However, there is a very small handful of players I could see doing such a thing. One of them is dead and a civilian. Two of them are voting for him right now, and the other one is Jay, a player defending him. I do not think that a teammate of his would be so quick to bus him.

Yes there's a fair chance of this, but I think Luke is striving to play as a civilian of his own accord.

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

My concern:

New players when civilian are often among the easiest mislynches to generate because the have the tendency to do silly things (quite like listing a player in two places on a rainbow list). I don't really think his case was convincing, but a case doesn't have to be convincing to come from a genuine place.

Marmot wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

I do think Luke is a civilian, and putting forth an effort to mimic what other civilians are doing.

Of course, there is the chance he's mafia and being guided by a seasoned mafia player. However, there is a very small handful of players I could see doing such a thing. One of them is dead and a civilian. Two of them are voting for him right now, and the other one is Jay, a player defending him. I do not think that a teammate of his would be so quick to bus him.

Yes there's a fair chance of this, but I think Luke is striving to play as a civilian of his own accord.

I think you're wrong. What do you mean about the guiding? What seems un-guided from a potential town!Luke that would be guided from a scum!Luke? I don't get it.

Marmot wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

I do think Luke is a civilian, and putting forth an effort to mimic what other civilians are doing.

Of course, there is the chance he's mafia and being guided by a seasoned mafia player. However, there is a very small handful of players I could see doing such a thing. One of them is dead and a civilian. Two of them are voting for him right now, and the other one is Jay, a player defending him. I do not think that a teammate of his would be so quick to bus him.

Yes there's a fair chance of this, but I think Luke is striving to play as a civilian of his own accord.

I agree with all of this.

MM

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My concern:

New players when civilian are often among the easiest mislynches to generate because the have the tendency to do silly things (quite like listing a player in two places on a rainbow list). I don't really think his case was convincing, but a case doesn't have to be convincing to come from a genuine place.

They are also given too much slack. The coloring things isn't "silly", it shows that the act of coloring is arbitrary.

Bah. I have a strong feeling Luke is scum.

Also, I'm at a party and am being rude by playing mafia on my phone. Remember that timed I called out Marmot and noone was interested in talking about it? I give thee Luke.

You made this post earlier Jay.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:For the moment my preferred lynch is among this group:

Wilgy
FZ
Elohcin
INH

I have active suspicion of the first two and no truly moving reason to view the latter two as civilians.

Not long after, insertnamehere pops in with this post.

insertnamehere wrote:RAYNEBOA

insertnamehere
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
Luke11646
Elochin
speedchuck
Long Con
DrWilgy
JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot
FZ.

FZ's response to the attacks struck me as less than convincing. Same thing with Marmot throwing my name around as an easy target. He seems a little lazy to me. Same with 3J, who seems to have abandoned the Vompatti gameplay for something more milquetoast and demanding of others.

Dys and Epi are my two townreads, and FZ/Marmot would be my preferred lynch.

I'm surprised that this is all you had to say in response to that post from him.

Epignosis wrote:

Marmot wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@JJJ, Do you have an argument for not voting Luke?

Among the low posters, he has provided at least a *case* of some kind. I believe he is relatively new to the game and I think his play reflects that. There is some manner of effort present even in a limited capacity. I'd prefer him to be more present, particularly right now, but he is hardly alone on that front in this game.

I don't want to be rude, but that was not a good case. It was I need to do something kind of thing, without getting much heat for it. Plus, and this I realize is totally subjective, but when I play with people for the first time I'm almost always tried used as a scape goat for scum. Something about my presense seems like there would be things to pick on or something. Or my vibe is different, or I get the "you're tricksterish and we can't trust you". I've seen this before. I realize he is new, but this looks like new scum to me, not new town. The fact that he has gotten so little attention against him despite being so absent and having imo very questionable posts also speaks volumes to me.

I do think Luke is a civilian, and putting forth an effort to mimic what other civilians are doing.

Of course, there is the chance he's mafia and being guided by a seasoned mafia player. However, there is a very small handful of players I could see doing such a thing. One of them is dead and a civilian. Two of them are voting for him right now, and the other one is Jay, a player defending him. I do not think that a teammate of his would be so quick to bus him.

Yes there's a fair chance of this, but I think Luke is striving to play as a civilian of his own accord.

I agree with all of this.

MM

Um ok.

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, I'm at a party and am being rude by playing mafia on my phone. Remember that timed I called out Marmot and noone was interested in talking about it? I give thee Luke.

But, but, I did talk about it.

And now people disappear?

Epi, why did you move your vote? And why to another person without a vote. It's extremely close to EoD and the biggest wagon has two votes.

Marmot wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:Also, I'm at a party and am being rude by playing mafia on my phone. Remember that timed I called out Marmot and noone was interested in talking about it? I give thee Luke.

But, but, I did talk about it.

I'm talking about the resistance. When the energy flows away from a person, LOOK AT THAT PERSON.

Marmot wrote:I'm surprised that this is all you had to say in response to that post from him.

I had a specific reason for asking that question. He didn't answer it though so I can't proceed -- I perceived "milquetoast" to be incompatible with this other grievance about me, that I am "demanding".

Voted Wilgy to avoid ties

This is a terrible EOD, and I'm partly to blame. Sorry.

Dyslexicon wrote:I think you're wrong. What do you mean about the guiding? What seems un-guided from a potential town!Luke that would be guided from a scum!Luke? I don't get it.

I was mafia with him in the only other game he ever played here. It ended horribly. Actually, he may have played another game, I can't remember, but I can only remember one. Here, have a link.

My point is, he's never really played as a civilian before. So. either he's picking up cues in the thread from what other players are doing, or he's being coached. But the players who I think would take the time to coach him are either dead, voting for him, or JaggedJimmyJay.

So I think it's unlikely that he's being coached, hence his following other popular civilian strategies.

Call it a gut feel too I suppose.

The site is slowing down a lot with the burglary going. We need to make a decision here. Wilgy leads and I think he's a good pick. Lynch Wilgy.

Luke > Wilgy. Rawr.

I don't really have reason to not vote for Wilgy.

speedchuck wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Long Con wrote:Can I have an opinion from everyone please? On a scale of 1 to 10, How likely is it that FZ will be lynched in the next three days?

I don't know how the game will develop from this point. If things don't change substantially on that front then I'd put it pretty high, like 7 or 8.

Does anyone have a reason to oppose a Wilgy lynch?

No good ones.

Wilgy going after Epi doesn't make too much sense from a town perspective, motive-wise. That's probably the best I've got.

But to address this point, DrWilgy and I both suspected Epignosis in the last game. We were both civilian and both wrong.

So there's certainly a precedent.

Fine. Luke.

What is this burglary?

@Speed, Would you like to vote for Luke instead? Much scum wow. Wilgy, not much scum (or honestly don't know, but more town than not and more than Luke).

Epignosis wrote:Fine. Luke.

How do you agree with the entirety of my post, but are voting Luke anyway?

Voted DrWilgy.

Gotta run now, but I'll be back tonight sometime.

The day has ended. Floyd had to step out for a bit and asked me to cover the deadline.
I'll have a thing for you all in a moment.

Marmot wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Fine. Luke.

How do you agree with the entirety of my post, but are voting Luke anyway?

I dare anything! I an Skeletor!

Epignosis wrote:

Marmot wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Fine. Luke.

How do you agree with the entirety of my post, but are voting Luke anyway?

I dare anything! I an Skeletor!

I like you, though I don't know if I understand you. Yet.

Decisions are approaching, reality in motion

You have lynched DrWilgy, who was Reality in Motion. He was most definitely a doctor and... All night actions should be sent to TheFloyd, not me. I assume you have 24 hours but don't listen to me.

>_>

Alright. Getting beer. Don't expect drunk posting, but if I do it's that other guys' fault.

Epignosis wrote:

Marmot wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Fine. Luke.

How do you agree with the entirety of my post, but are voting Luke anyway?

I dare anything! I an Skeletor!

This is a true grammatical error. Top of the suspect heap for you!

RIP Wilgy.

Day 2

Curses! Thwarted by a cellular device!