The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:33 pmYet, you're the reason why I'm gonna die.
Funny how that works.

Nah, I'm not taking that one on. You're the one who asked eloh to vote for you, and you're currently tied at 2-2 with LC. You have every ability to survive this lynch if you want to.

feels a little rude to lynch a person not here to defend himself, but ive had it happen to myself multiple times and it's just the (bad) luck of the draw i suppose

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:27 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm I thought the poll ended friday?

It's a speed game...

It's this stuff from you I don't buy.

I seriously doubt you think I am bad.
If I had BTSC, I would have definitely already asked them when the phase ended.

This I don't buy.

I have hosted so many games and been bad many times, and lately, BTSC is quiet. People go for days without talking.

I find it hard to believe that you would ask your teammates when the phase ended rather than take two seconds to scroll upward and look at the poll deadline.

Funny...these were my exact thoughts to Dom's response.

WTF is with all of the third party hosting crap in people's sigs?

And in light of the remaining minutes to this day, I'm never going to catch up fully, if someone can give me the cole's notes on the big cases?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

I wouldn't have necessarily characterised you as enthusiastic at all

It's almostl ike he wants no accountability or something

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:37 pm It's almostl ike he wants no accountability or something

I don't want any accountability. I've admitted to that every time you've said it. What's so 'civvie' about accountability anyway?

Yeah I doubt the hostess will admit her mistake if she came to me in a PM AFTER I got heat for it in the thread from none other than Golden himself

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:27 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:02 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:00 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm I thought the poll ended friday?

It's a speed game...

It's this stuff from you I don't buy.

I seriously doubt you think I am bad.
If I had BTSC, I would have definitely already asked them when the phase ended.

This I don't buy.

I have hosted so many games and been bad many times, and lately, BTSC is quiet. People go for days without talking.

I find it hard to believe that you would ask your teammates when the phase ended rather than take two seconds to scroll upward and look at the poll deadline.

I've made it clear that our hostess should speak up on this.
It was Friday earlier.
But me taking suspicion for her mistake is okay, I guess.

Can you show me where nijuukyugou indicated it was Friday?

But also, don't try to pretend I should have any accountability for you asking people to vote for you. I won't pretend you have any accountability for me doing the same.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:38 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:37 pm It's almostl ike he wants no accountability or something

I don't want any accountability. I've admitted to that every time you've said it. What's so 'civvie' about accountability anyway?

What's so 'bad' about deleting the files that prove you're money laundering?

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm WTF is with all of the third party hosting crap in people's sigs?

And in light of the remaining minutes to this day, I'm never going to catch up fully, if someone can give me the cole's notes on the big cases?

signatures broken, turn them off in your account setttings

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:40 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:38 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:37 pm It's almostl ike he wants no accountability or something

I don't want any accountability. I've admitted to that every time you've said it. What's so 'civvie' about accountability anyway?

What's so 'bad' about deleting the files that prove you're money laundering?

Shh, that was our secret!

The vast bulk of civilians who play mafia never take accountability for anything. So lets not pretend that intentional lack of accountability is somehow a mafia trait. As I've said many times this game and will continue to say, my lack of accountability should, if anything, prove I'm town.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

The Syndicate used to be no-change-votes central. I know we can't change votes.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm WTF is with all of the third party hosting crap in people's sigs?

And in light of the remaining minutes to this day, I'm never going to catch up fully, if someone can give me the cole's notes on the big cases?

No, but disable your signature in your member control panel. Photobucket lost its shit.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:43 pm Hey all,

Dom's not crazy - I did accidentally have the poll itself set for Friday, because apparently polls hate me and my schedules. I fixed it earlier today. Sorry for not saying anything!

Thank you.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:39 pm Yeah I doubt the hostess will admit her mistake if she came to me in a PM AFTER I got heat for it in the thread from none other than Golden himself

Me too. God, what a bitch.

linki

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:42 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

The Syndicate used to be no-change-votes central. I know we can't change votes.

my point being, do you think he wouldve changed votes if he could?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Not to defend golden, but you DID consider that we cant change votes right?

But you DIDN'T consider that Golden didn't even have to vote then.

Why is that relevant? I can vote whenever I like.

I make no apologies for voting early. I do it often. I don't have any regrets about it when I would later change my mind. I think it provides certain tactical benefits.

I am also not enthusiastic about speedchuck's vote for Long Con, followed up by someone he apparently suspects. I am hoping to hear more from speedchuck before I vote.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:49 pm I am also not enthusiastic about speedchuck's vote for Long Con, followed up by someone he apparently suspects. I am hoping to hear more from speedchuck before I vote.

He voted then because he wasn't going to be back.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:45 pm Why is that relevant? I can vote whenever I like.

Not everything is about you.
It's about sprityo.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:49 pm I am also not enthusiastic about speedchuck's vote for Long Con, followed up by someone he apparently suspects. I am hoping to hear more from speedchuck before I vote.

He voted then because he wasn't going to be back.

Still doesn't change my opinion, but I guess I can give up the hope from hearing from him.

Golden, Dom, and Long Con are dead.

Who gets your vote?

Tony, probably, in the absence of having really considered other options to this point. Although I guess I technically wouldn't have a vote.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

Is he even trying to get people to vote elsewhere? He defends himself by saying he is exhibiting more townie behaviors than Dom (and Wilgy and Rico). Also doesn't make me feel good about Golden. And if he actually wants to lynch LC, why does he want me to not follow through with my plan of voting for LC? Disregarding if my plan can be easily exploited by mafia, it seems like he wants me to do something else.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I am paranoid a lot.

@epi's dead thing - DFaraday or Elochin, depending on how they flipped.

Tony - your plan wasn't to vote for LC, it was to vote for the second of three possible candidates. I just think you should vote for who you most think is bad.

To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:55 pm Tony - your plan wasn't to vote for LC, it was to vote for the second of three possible candidates. I just think you should vote for who you most think is bad.

Okay. That wasn't my plan, but I feel better when reading this and seeing what you thought my plan was. I probably should have clarified my plan a little more. That's on me.

How about this question, epi... with dom, golden and LC alive, would you still vote INH?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

I would. I know INH better than I know TonyStarkPrime (however much anyone could "know" INH- I honest to God PMed him when I saw his location was Lumberton, NC, since Lumberton is 30 minutes from house. He never responded). TonyStarkPrime could be the guy I said he was, but so could a bunch of other people. Hell, let him live long enough and maybe he'll expose himself if I'm right. There's still plenty of mafia to go around.

*from my house

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:59 pm How about this question, epi... with dom, golden and LC alive, would you still vote INH?

Yes.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Do you see anybody else posting anything funny?

Here's something. I want to hear from DrWilgy, having recently completed a game with him, i know how much of a town player he can be, and also how advantageous he can be to gather town credit

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

We know there is a role that does 'an insanification of its choice' and there's no other obvious candidate.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:11 pm lynch me
i don't want to play if this is how we play now.

watch out for timmer never actually catching up. that's classic baddie timmer.
When I come up civ, remember how wrong Golden was. Remember how I was told repeatedly that I had written nothing when I wrote many posts giving well thought out reasons for him being bad

Watch out for INH hiding behind being *quirky*

Watch out Elo pretending she can't read my posts.

Dom, I say this out of love. Please step away from the computer. Golden isn't being a jerk or being personal towards you. I think you're misreading his intent, because they're about you. I recognize that's easy to do, to read things personally or assholic when they are against you. But I am not reading Golden's posts that way (and you know I'm quite sensitive to noticing people being asshats in mafia-land). I really encourage you to take a deep breath, and walk away for an hour or so. If you still don't want to play after that, then ask for a replacement. If you are civ, then asking to be lynched will not help those of us that want to continue to play this game.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:17 pm I don't actually think Dom is bad. I could be totally wrong in my read of him, but I'm not currently reading him as bad. Golden, I think you're tunneling on him, which is part of why I think you're not bad. You tunnel less when you're bad.

Meh, I'm not particularly tunnelled on Dom. That's why I want LC to go, I feel far more convinced about him than Dom. Dom's recent exchanges have me feeling more town about him than I did before, and he is beginning to cast his net wider. Dom, Wilgy and Rico are all exceptionally tunnelled on me, none of them have ever exhibited a hint of doubt that I'm bad.

I'm not enthusiastic about someone who votes, and then tries to get people to vote elsewhere.

I'm toying with the theory that Golden's vote was forced.

For the moment, I'm holding off on my vote. If I'm in a position to be able to save someone who isn't bad, I'll vote in a direction to save them (assuming it isn't a matter of 2 people I think aren't bad). All things being equal, I'd like to vote for LC.

linkitis: I really do think he was forced. I can't see Rico changing to another fake curse when he could just keep with the smilies. And I could see a lot of players cursing the player posting with a false curse, for shits and giggles.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:02 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Do you see anybody else posting anything funny?

Would you put it past Ricochet to do some sort of stunt in his posting every day?

Holy shit.

First time for everything. I think Lorab is...

...

My vote wasn't forced, LoRab. It was intentionally provocative. In particular, I wanted to see how willing certain people were to put their money where their mouth was in terms of their focus on me being bad... I thought it might provoke a reactionary vote against me from Dom, for instance. The fact Dom has held off voting for me despite his clearly emotional reaction towards me is another factor that has me leaning town on him.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:02 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:56 pm To answer my own question, INH. I agree with Ricochet about the curse.

That's interesting. You'd put inh ahead of Tony?

I also think the 'inh did the curse' thing has merit. So does LC doing it, though. It has to be someone who actually read the game it came from, I don't know who was in that game.

Do we know it's a curse?

Do you see anybody else posting anything funny?

Would you put it past Ricochet to do some sort of stunt in his posting every day?

I don't put anything past anybody. Do you?

Ricochet is stubborn. I would expect more faces from him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:06 pm Holy shit.

First time for everything. I think Lorab is...

...

Spoiler: show

good.