The Syndicate

Cooo! (Sorry just thought instead of assuming something Okosan did in the past was scummy and moving on you'd want to read through and see if Okosan's thought progression actually made sense instead )

You’re reading someone town based on how they see how monokuma would do things? From a mechanical standpoint?

And that warrants a lock town read that you’ll never come back to?

Ok.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:11 pm You’re reading someone town based on how they see how monokuma would do things? From a mechanical standpoint?

That’s part of it, yeah.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:12 pm And that warrants a lock town read that you’ll never come back to?

Ok.

Add this to the list of things I never said.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:12 pm And that warrants a lock town read that you’ll never come back to?

Ok.

COO! (Okosan means you locked Okosan as scum yesterday for his views on things so )

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:09 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:05 pm I literally just want you two to figure each other out by asking questions.

As far as I see it, Sloonei has no reason to town read you and neither do you to town read Sloonei.

It was proven that you were wrong on how Monokuma would handle it, and that was Sloonei’s reason for reading you town. Which proved to be a flop. So he has no reason for reading you town.

You were pushing him yesterday and we flipped monokuma. Your theory on how he could be monokuma is invalid. Don’t you wanna still figure him out?

Okosan being wrong does nothing to deter my town read. I understood his point of view and thought it reflected a genuine thought process. I don’t care whether or not he was right.

I meant it as in, “The only thing he’s focused on was mechanical stuff that he thinks would work, and when he was proven otherwise, you realise that there’s nothing else town to him and you still town read the procees he has undergone without re-evaluating?”

More than being right or wrong. I know it’s bad practice to read someone scum for being wrong, but that’s actually more of what i tried to convey, my bad.

Okosan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:15 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:12 pm And that warrants a lock town read that you’ll never come back to?

Ok.

COO! (Okosan means you locked Okosan as scum yesterday for his views on things so )

I literally asked you to do something so that i can change my opinion.

Alright, it’s become more of a “let’s antagonise the fuck out of him when he’s trying to sort us” type of deal.

See ya tomorrow

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:19 pm Alright, it’s become more of a “let’s antagonise the fuck out of him when he’s trying to sort us” type of deal.

See ya tomorrow

We must also try to sort you. I’ve not been trying to antagonize you in the slightest. I feel like you’ve misconstrued several of my posts. I’m trying to decide whether or not I think that comes from an honest place.

Sloonei is town until further notice

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:22 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:19 pm Alright, it’s become more of a “let’s antagonise the fuck out of him when he’s trying to sort us” type of deal.

See ya tomorrow

We must also try to sort you. I’ve not been trying to antagonize you in the slightest. I feel like you’ve misconstrued several of my posts. I’m trying to decide whether or not I think that comes from an honest place.

Town misconstrues to a mental narrative, scum builds a fake narrative around the truth

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:22 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:19 pm Alright, it’s become more of a “let’s antagonise the fuck out of him when he’s trying to sort us” type of deal.

See ya tomorrow

We must also try to sort you. I’ve not been trying to antagonize you in the slightest. I feel like you’ve misconstrued several of my posts. I’m trying to decide whether or not I think that comes from an honest place.

Town misconstrues to a mental narrative, scum builds a fake narrative around the truth

I think I’d lean towards the former.

Sorry if I was being difficult, [mention]tedxtr[/mention]. I've been lying around sick in bed all day and had not eaten a single thing until a moment ago. I think I belong in a Snickers commercial.

Please hold

I'm very tickled by the idea that the mafia doesn't seem to give a shit about outnumbering the town but rather each individual mafia member just wants to get a kill off so they're targeting the lowest posters ie players less likely to be doctored.

(This is assuming there are two mafia recruits. If the lone mafia member decided to kill Mac and then Dom idk what they're doing.)

Anyone got a Magic Tournament to get to today or tomorrow?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:16 pm Anyone got a Magic Tournament to get to today or tomorrow?

I guess I gotta refuse to answer this question now

DDL pls recruit me

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:05 am [VOTE: We need a poll] aubergine

I think action results still going out. We can narrow down actions in the following manner: either Junko was recruited, or our one shot RB is dead.
DDL, wanna tell us who you recruited? It’d make things more fun wait you can’t it’s in the rules ops

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:08 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:05 am [VOTE: We need a poll] aubergine

I think action results still going out. We can narrow down actions in the following manner: either Junko was recruited, or our one shot RB is dead.
DDL, wanna tell us who you recruited? It’d make things more fun wait you can’t it’s in the rules ops

Why can’t the one shot roleblocker be recruited?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:05 am [VOTE: We need a poll] aubergine

Oh ya

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:32 am one of these days we’ll be able to set the poll using hours and not days

But uh take 3 hour away from the poll

I will not remember this but will try (Forgot last time IE why i missed EoD)

but either way Monokuma lynch is very good and the Dom kill is weird to say the least i believe that the TP hasn't be converted for this reason.
This is assuming we have any which i believe we would either from conversion/kills or both.
Also should keep in mind we have a busdriver and they might be changing kill targets which isn't unreasonable to think at this point in time.


I was reading back and there seems to a few people assuming multiple people are conversion immune so far i've seen
Kyoko. Makoto, Kiyotake. Also there is a role in this game that is conversion resistant Sakura.

I think it is more realistic i believe we have someone who can prevent conversions over all of them being immune and out of them i think only Makoto would be even if Kiyotaka is the 'Moral Compass".

(Alittle sad we don't get to know who has died character wise but that"s how it is makes it harder for Monokuma.)

General Message.

Who ever is Makoto assuming you have Talked to Kyoko i think at some point you should try communicating to Chihiro some Secret information would be useful to have left behind in a way since Makoto will be our best way to A make false Character Claims to avoid Soup kill. B spread information neatly. Only worry i have with this is spreading our information to the wrong hands IE mafia.

If someone disagrees with gathering secret info please speak up but swapping between Chihiro and Kyoko makes the most sense to me.
In theory you could go to someone else if Chihiro could information on someone else with an investigative ability then in that case i would visit them.

[VOTE: Sloonei ] aubergine

Sloonei / sig / fayt / okosan

Set on all of these, @ me if you town read anyone of them + reasons

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm If I was mozzarella bear I’d spend the day acting like I know how to catch mozzarella bear.

Oh I just stumbled upon this gem

Fayt is in this game? Well I'll be jiggered

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm If I was mozzarella bear I’d spend the day acting like I know how to catch mozzarella bear.

Oh I just stumbled upon this gem

I remember that one. What does it mean to you?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:27 am [VOTE: Sloonei ] aubergine

Sloonei / sig / fayt / okosan

Set on all of these, @ me if you town read anyone of them + reasons

I don't really know how to "town read" in this situation. I mean, for some percentage of at least most of those players, they were town. Are we looking for behavioral changes as a major priority then?

Or should we judge players based on whether they are likely to have contacted the bear to arrange an advantageous recruitment?

There's no angle of "who would Monokuma choose" because we don't know everyone's role. So that's a delicious hunting aspect that we just don't get to enjoy this game.

RIP Dom. I wouldn't kill Dom. He's an old friend.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:20 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm If I was mozzarella bear I’d spend the day acting like I know how to catch mozzarella bear.

Oh I just stumbled upon this gem

I remember that one. What does it mean to you?

If you read my earlier interaction with Sloonei and Okosan, Sloonei was essentially locked into a town read on Okosan solely based on how Okosan was looking for monokuma.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:24 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:27 am [VOTE: Sloonei ] aubergine

Sloonei / sig / fayt / okosan

Set on all of these, @ me if you town read anyone of them + reasons

I don't really know how to "town read" in this situation. I mean, for some percentage of at least most of those players, they were town. Are we looking for behavioral changes as a major priority then?

Or should we judge players based on whether they are likely to have contacted the bear to arrange an advantageous recruitment?

I started town reading from Day 2 onwards, from the premise that there was never a scum to begin with and, therefore, it would be a waste to hunt on Day 0 and Day 1.

Mainly derp clears, how someone would hunt, I made a couple of points on how I town read some people, including you, in one of my posts.

In this game, there are a lot of things that you have to place your trust on. I am just assuming that Monokuma can't convert / is being blocked from converting, and so, I am looking for town (that are uninformed) and trying to leave the scum in a PoE that he can't get out of.

Stuff like lazy reads on people, useless pockets, etc.

What I deemed as a lazy read was Sloonei's read on Okosan, which turned out to be a contradiction. I don't see the town motivation behind not re-assessing Okosan's posts, given that this should be a common thing, with conversions taking place and whatnot. I gave him the opportunity to do so, but he just flat out refused to engage Okosan and vice versa. I think it's misplaced confidence in a read that's shallow, which reeks of TMI. There's just nothing spicy about Okosan, the only thing he's done was to say how he thinks Monokuma would act and then vote accordingly.

That's fine, let's say that would not be an issue. But, when you have a monokuma flip, don't you start the actual scum hunting process?

That's what I wanted to do, I wanted them to sort each other because they're both huge null piles for me that are messing my PoE up. If they don't want to hunt, then that's fine, just don't be mad when you get the noose.

If we keep talking mechanical aspects instead of actual hunting, we'll lose this if monokuma can still convert. Mafia will eventually hit Junko at some point. We have to raise the bar high for towniness, so that we make the scum pressured.

By talking mechanical stuff, we're not advocating scum hunting, and thus, there will be lazy town that we can't find because they aren't hunting. This game's already hard for town, take advantage of the bear flip and let's finish this game with a town win.

Long Con, from this day onwards, it's literally normal scum hunting. Don't worry about conversions, just think like this "There is a scum and the rest of the people are town. We have to find the scum"

Think of it as a normal game of mafia and hunt how you deem necessary.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:20 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:31 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:58 pm If I was mozzarella bear I’d spend the day acting like I know how to catch mozzarella bear.

Oh I just stumbled upon this gem

I remember that one. What does it mean to you?

If you read my earlier interaction with Sloonei and Okosan, Sloonei was essentially locked into a town read on Okosan solely based on how Okosan was looking for monokuma.

First, no I wasn’t.

Second, we already know I’m not the mozzarella bear. I could not have been bad on Day 1. I don’t even know what dots you’re trying to connect right now.

I'm not hunting the bear, I'm hunting the scum.

You are assigning way way more weight to my read on okosan than I ever did. He’s a town read. He’s not a lock town read. I’m perfectly willing to reassess him. My assessment so far has lead me to read him as town.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:09 am I'm not hunting the bear, I'm hunting the scum.

Okay. But you just slapped a scum read on me and then cited a post from Day 1, before anyone could have been recruited.

Point was, you didn't read Okosan as monokuma, even though he was doing what you thought Monokuma would be doing.

linki: I gave you the opportunity to re-assess but you just refused it. You have no interest in sorting him, why are you saying you do?

[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine let’s make it a trifecta.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:11 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:09 am I'm not hunting the bear, I'm hunting the scum.

Okay. But you just slapped a scum read on me and then cited a post from Day 1, before anyone could have been recruited.

Your mentality wasn't holding up, you made a claim on Day 1 and then town read someone for it on Day 2. Even if you weren't recruited already, you could've been recruited on the next night. Which would explain your shift in perspective.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:12 am Point was, you didn't read Okosan as monokuma, even though he was doing what you thought Monokuma would be doing.

I didn’t see him doing that. My town read on him is based on more than one thing. I don’t think that monoluma had fo be doing what I proposed; I was literally just suggesting what I would be doing. Other players aren’t me. I reject all of these points outright.

linki: I gave you the opportunity to re-assess but you just refused it. You have no interest in sorting him, why are you saying you do?

I reject this outright as well. You misrepresented several points I made and I tried to clarify things. You asked questions and I answered. I have a read on a player and I have my methods for developing reads. I don’t need to be given opportunities to do things. I am a big boy.

I’m disinterested in all of this.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:14 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:11 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:09 am I'm not hunting the bear, I'm hunting the scum.

Okay. But you just slapped a scum read on me and then cited a post from Day 1, before anyone could have been recruited.

Your mentality wasn't holding up, you made a claim on Day 1 and then town read someone for it on Day 2. Even if you weren't recruited already, you could've been recruited on the next night. Which would explain your shift in perspective.

I don’t even know what you’re talking about, to be honest. You are pinning me into corners that I was never in.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:19 am Fayt is in this game? Well I'll be jiggered

hello yes. I've been kind of busy lately with work, lunar new year, and playing in two other mafia games I may have messed up but I actually do like danganronpa so I will try to make it an effort to play. I am still a little confused at the setup though since we lynched Monokuma? (DDL?) But I imagine we need to find the people he recruited.

Coo! (Alright we should just go off the assumption that the mass roleblock is dead or recruited. Which oh well hopefully Junko is alive and blocking Monokuma)

COOO! (Anyways now that night's over guess Okosan should actually start trying to scum hunt)