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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:51 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:47 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:45 pm :doh: sorry guys, it's true, Slooneji strikes again.
What do you think of Epi's case on Soneji Sloonei?
I take it with a grain of salt, it could just as easily be a wolf Epignosis doing a proactive Town Act.
That tells me nothing. Anything that anyone does could be "a proactive Town Act." That's not a real answer.
It is my real answer. I'm not a very heavy day one player because I don't have a handle on who's bullshiting and who's not yet. I'm usually one of the lower posters in the early game. What I said was the actual way I feel and the reason I make my decisions. It's as real an answer as I can give you.
I don't believe that you've read it closely.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE: long con] aubergine

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I honestly liked when LC was like “good luck.”

I know that’s stupid but whatever.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
by Scirrus
I really wish Dizzy was town. I'm sad.

The way his role sounds seems a little too weird and specific for a fake claim so it's probably legit

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
by Funnygurl555
wait when does the day end

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
by Sloonei
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
how come?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
by Dyslexicon
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:49 pmCause she’s mechanically correct. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I'm a fucking tree stump. Vote me and be mechanically correct. :beer:

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
how come?
I like LC better than you this game.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
by Dyslexicon
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm I really wish Dizzy was town. I'm sad.

The way his role sounds seems a little too weird and specific for a fake claim so it's probably legit
Same. >_>

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:57 pm
by juliets
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm wait when does the day end
In about 37 minutes.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:57 pm
by Sloonei
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
how come?
I like LC better than you this game.
Why are we the only options?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE: scirrus] aubergine

You were on me for a while, but I don't remember you trying to interact with me at all. Now you're on Long Con. Do you care about this lynch?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm
by Long Con
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm I honestly liked when LC was like “good luck.”

I know that’s stupid but whatever.
I honestly didn't intend to come back to the thread after that. Then I got over my snit and saw something I should reasonably respond to.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm
by Funnygurl555
i don't like the wagons

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:49 pmCause she’s mechanically correct. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I'm a fucking tree stump. Vote me and be mechanically correct. :beer:
I mean like it’s mechanically correct to lynch a D1 3P claim.

Suppose you are lying. We only catch you by lynching you.

Suppose you are actually a neutral that doesn’t hurt the town. You can be strong armed into siding with scum at endgame. You’re essentially a lost wolf.

That said, I don’t like burning D1, I don’t think you’re lying and if we lynch all but one wolf, they can’t strongarm you cause then you can just lynch them ftw. Plus sometimes 3P players can’t help themselves and townside out of habit/being town irl.

I’m just never gonna get onto anyone for voting a claimed 3P day 1. Or maybe I will but not today.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
by Sloonei
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
by Dyslexicon
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm [VOTE: scirrus] aubergine

You were on me for a while, but I don't remember you trying to interact with me at all. Now you're on Long Con. Do you care about this lynch?
Not a bad vote, but people here are too nice to vote him off D1. Wilgy is also scum btw.
You could all cfd me, and then nothing would happen. I prove I'm tree stump and you get no info and um... great things! :llama:

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:02 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:52 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:36 am Moving my vote to long con
could you tell me stuff about your feelings on LC, and do you know anything about his meta? Would def be helpful lol
I know nothing meaningful about his meta beyond “how the fuck do I read this guy outside of POE?”

I think he’s been weird, he’s always a little weird. He’s the person I mind killing the least today outside of possibly AFK Soneji, but I haven’t really played with Soneji before and I want to.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:03 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
how come?
I like LC better than you this game.
Why are we the only options?
Sell me on someone else.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:03 pm
by Sloonei
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm [VOTE: scirrus] aubergine

You were on me for a while, but I don't remember you trying to interact with me at all. Now you're on Long Con. Do you care about this lynch?
Not a bad vote, but people here are too nice to vote him off D1. Wilgy is also scum btw.
You could all cfd me, and then nothing would happen. I prove I'm tree stump and you get no info and um... great things! :llama:
talk some more about wilgy

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
by Sloonei
All you folks needed to do was place a bunch of votes on me and just like that I am motivated again.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
by Sloonei
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:03 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:55 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:54 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
how come?
I like LC better than you this game.
Why are we the only options?
Sell me on someone else.
Do I look like someone who has developed reads?

What's your take on scirrus?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
by Funnygurl555
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
;; i dont have names frankly its way too hot and im burning and i just wanna take naps

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
by Dyslexicon
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 pmI mean like it’s mechanically correct to lynch a D1 3P claim.

Suppose you are lying. We only catch you by lynching you.

Suppose you are actually a neutral that doesn’t hurt the town. You can be strong armed into siding with scum at endgame. You’re essentially a lost wolf.

That said, I don’t like burning D1, I don’t think you’re lying and if we lynch all but one wolf, they can’t strongarm you cause then you can just lynch them ftw. Plus sometimes 3P players can’t help themselves and townside out of habit/being town irl.

I’m just never gonna get onto anyone for voting a claimed 3P day 1. Or maybe I will but not today.
Yeah, I get it. But I didn't like the way it was done, is the point.

Also lol, I'll be out of the game if I reach my wincon. Saying I'm basically a lost wolf is VERY mechanically nonsensical. I have a habit of town siding. Plus, it's the only side I can really help since I don't know who scum is anyway.

And yeah, I'll vote to lynch if we get all but one scum. Do you know how many there are?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
by Dyslexicon
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:03 pm talk some more about wilgy
No. You're probably getting lynched. Bai :beer:

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
by Sloonei
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
;; i dont have names frankly its way too hot and im burning and i just wanna take naps
funnygurl is town

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
by Scirrus
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm [VOTE: scirrus] aubergine

You were on me for a while, but I don't remember you trying to interact with me at all. Now you're on Long Con. Do you care about this lynch?
Bro idk wtf I'm doing if imma honest with you

A lot of people who DO know you don't think you're playing to your town meta though and I'm willing to follow them if I feel like it's the best thing for town. baaaaaaaa!

I do like to put my vote on people early to get stuff on the board so town has more info to work with though. Regardless if I interact with you or not. /shrug

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:06 pm
by Sloonei
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:03 pm talk some more about wilgy
No. You're probably getting lynched. Bai :beer:
:scared:

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
by Sloonei
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:58 pm [VOTE: scirrus] aubergine

You were on me for a while, but I don't remember you trying to interact with me at all. Now you're on Long Con. Do you care about this lynch?
Bro idk wtf I'm doing if imma honest with you

A lot of people who DO know you don't think you're playing to your town meta though and I'm willing to follow them if I feel like it's the best thing for town. baaaaaaaa!

I do like to put my vote on people early to get stuff on the board so town has more info to work with though. Regardless if I interact with you or not. /shrug
I'm among the people who thinks I'm not playing to my town meta. That part is not up for debate. Or it hasn't been. I've flipped a switch now.

Why do you trust the votes of those people?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
by Sloonei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus
why? What have they done?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
I did read it. I couldn't honestly pinpoint his reasons by memory. Went back and reread it, and it's extremely thin, practically a semantic argument with a higher-posting expectation that he denies.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
There’s like 8 things happening in the house rn so I’m gonna be kinda sporadic, someone convince me why we should be hot swapping to wilgy or scirrus instead of killing LC

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:08 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:04 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 pmI mean like it’s mechanically correct to lynch a D1 3P claim.

Suppose you are lying. We only catch you by lynching you.

Suppose you are actually a neutral that doesn’t hurt the town. You can be strong armed into siding with scum at endgame. You’re essentially a lost wolf.

That said, I don’t like burning D1, I don’t think you’re lying and if we lynch all but one wolf, they can’t strongarm you cause then you can just lynch them ftw. Plus sometimes 3P players can’t help themselves and townside out of habit/being town irl.

I’m just never gonna get onto anyone for voting a claimed 3P day 1. Or maybe I will but not today.
Yeah, I get it. But I didn't like the way it was done, is the point.

Also lol, I'll be out of the game if I reach my wincon. Saying I'm basically a lost wolf is VERY mechanically nonsensical. I have a habit of town siding. Plus, it's the only side I can really help since I don't know who scum is anyway.

And yeah, I'll vote to lynch if we get all but one scum. Do you know how many there are?
3?

I kinda skimmed a lot of stuff.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
by Long Con
If the deadline were still a few hours away, I would expect Epi to come in and reveal that his case was a trap, to see who would opportunistically jump on. But with less than half an hour, seems he was just serious.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
by Sloonei
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
I did read it. I couldn't honestly pinpoint his reasons by memory. Went back and reread it, and it's extremely thin, practically a semantic argument with a higher-posting expectation that he denies.
Yeah but you thought it was about soneji at first.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
by Scirrus
I wish i had a good answer. I agreed with the points against you. You didn't seem like you had a direction and you've seemed resigned until now. I'm not really sure what to think lol

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus
why? What have they done?
For some reason I’m inclined to believe dizzy’s wilgy read despite logic saying not to

Scirrus feels sort of scummy in a holistic way but I’m not gonna be able to pin down why in a satisfactory way with 30 minutes left tbh

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:10 pm
by juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus
I won't votes Scirrus but I could maybe be talked into Wilgy. I was going to ask Dizzy the same question Sloonei did.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm
by Sloonei
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm I wish i had a good answer. I agreed with the points against you. You didn't seem like you had a direction and you've seemed resigned until now. I'm not really sure what to think lol
You don't need to have solid answers. But you should at least have impressions of things. Is there anyone else who has perhaps been lacking in energy this game? Or anyone who stands out as a town read?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
juliets wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus
I won't votes Scirrus but I could maybe be talked into Wilgy. I was going to ask Dizzy the same question Sloonei did.
I’ll do wilgy if that’s where momentum goes. I dislike the sloonei push so I’m gonna fight against it 🤷‍♀️

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm
by Dyslexicon
Ok. Scirrus can be town now.

Also Jack just scumslipped, but none of you will do anything about it, will you? Ok cool.

Wilgy just ...doesn't vibe right.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:12 pm
by Sloonei
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm Also Jack just scumslipped, but none of you will do anything about it, will you? Ok cool.
Tell us more, O wise stump

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 pm
by Tangrowth
Okay, I'm here but distracted, sorry about that.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 pm
by Sloonei
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 pm Okay, I'm here but distracted, sorry about that.
Who should we lynch if LC and Sloonei are off the table?

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 pm
by Long Con
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:01 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:59 pm i don't like the wagons
My very limited view of LC is that he just tried to question me on something that he clearly had not read himself, which was odd. I don't know if that oddity makes him bad. I know that I should not be getting lynched right now.

Throw other names at us, Carrotgurl.
I did read it. I couldn't honestly pinpoint his reasons by memory. Went back and reread it, and it's extremely thin, practically a semantic argument with a higher-posting expectation that he denies.
Yeah but you thought it was about soneji at first.
So, I see you have denied to cut the slack I requested. I have some issues with same-lettered folk. I used to do it all the time with Tranq, Turnip Head, and ... who was the third? Can't think now, nutella, juliets, who was it? Too close to lynch to look it up. Doesn't matter. It was just a genuine name slip. It's a flaw I have. It doesn't mean I was just scrolling my way through the game with my eyes glazed over. I have read every page of this game, some more skimmy than others, but not too bad on that front.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:15 pm
by Long Con
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:00 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:56 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:49 pmCause she’s mechanically correct. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I'm a fucking tree stump. Vote me and be mechanically correct. :beer:
I mean like it’s mechanically correct to lynch a D1 3P claim.

Suppose you are lying. We only catch you by lynching you.

Suppose you are actually a neutral that doesn’t hurt the town. You can be strong armed into siding with scum at endgame. You’re essentially a lost wolf.

That said, I don’t like burning D1, I don’t think you’re lying and if we lynch all but one wolf, they can’t strongarm you cause then you can just lynch them ftw. Plus sometimes 3P players can’t help themselves and townside out of habit/being town irl.

I’m just never gonna get onto anyone for voting a claimed 3P day 1. Or maybe I will but not today.
You will if the endgame tells us she's lying and is scum and just beat us.

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:16 pm
by Funnygurl555
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm Ok. Scirrus can be town now.

Also Jack just scumslipped, but none of you will do anything about it, will you? Ok cool.

Wilgy just ...doesn't vibe right.
scum slip wait what

Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:16 pm
by Dyslexicon
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:12 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:11 pm Also Jack just scumslipped, but none of you will do anything about it, will you? Ok cool.
Tell us more, O wise stump
He has clearly payed attention to the mechanics of how scum can't kill me (me not taking part in their lynch). That's the first mindset thing to pay attention to. Ping ping. Further he says I can vote when there's only one scum left, cause then it would be safe (scum can't kill me to retaliate, cause they would be gone). But how does he know how many scum there are? When I asked him his answer was "I kind of skimmed stuff", which is very wave the hand and doesn't answer the question at all-reply. OP doesn't say how many mafia members there are.

It's not that it's impossible for town to make assumptions about stuff. But the way he waved me off is significant. As is the way he had clearly payed attention to how I can't be dealt with from a scum perspective.