Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Explain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pmThe same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmExplain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
lmao falc (and flanders to an extent) just demolishedMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pmI think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmExplain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.
The main issue is that I don't trust them to reevaluate and see it for what it is when they are pushing onto town. If they can prove me wrong on that then go nuts I say.112 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:27 pmlmao falc (and flanders to an extent) just demolishedMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pmI think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmExplain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.
Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmShe spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pmThe same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
Me too, Poison did a few things that pinged me (scumread on Tutuu looks opportunistic, lots of 3p hunting and even made 3p reads).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pmI think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmExplain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.
As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pmTutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmShe spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pmThe same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
This hurts my head. But, I'll throw a town lean to Bonnie's. Mafia leam to stupid and null for poison.
Could you name names? Who specifically do you think was trying to find an easy D1 scapegoat?
bumping for visibilityAlison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:10 pmSays they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
NIK and KZA is actually kinda my pet theory right now so I apologise for what I said about you earlier here have a cookie.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:37 amA new Kza eh. Hrrrmm.NIK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:32 amnothing new as in not being too towny?Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:24 amWhat is "nothing new" if he's "playing too serious"?
playing too serious: he seems like a new KZA
Feels kinda gross.
Kza posting early in the game is what made me want to town lean him despite his eager pocketing.
He did promise to tunnel all us cdc'ers so I'm just gonna give him a slight scum lean now because I think you're teammates.
People didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pmAs opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pmTutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmShe spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pmThe same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
So you are saying that your goal was to get people to back off their Tutuu reads?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:36 pmPeople didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pmAs opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pmTutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmShe spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pmThe same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
Lazily, the game isn't really firing yet
yeah...
LolMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:41 pmPoison is mafia and Tutuu is in fact a 3p. Got it.
That was one of my goals, and early on I was also trying to check whether the "less silly/Tutuu" read was unjustified for myself and I concluded it was.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:37 pmSo you are saying that your goal was to get people to back off their Tutuu reads?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:36 pmPeople didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pmAs opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:31 pmTutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmShe spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pmYeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pm
The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.
I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.
Yes with that opportunity, I win the game cause I'm a jester!Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:32 pmMe too, Poison did a few things that pinged me (scumread on Tutuu looks opportunistic, lots of 3p hunting and even made 3p reads).MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:26 pmI think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:24 pmExplain these.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:19 pm Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu
Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.
Your goal was to get people to back off and you do so by posting hedges like this?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:23 pmCome to think of it, that could be suspicious because the Grasslands game is probably a more representative baseline for this game and the fact she feels less comfortable/joking than that baseline might be AI.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:21 pmI don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.
On the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:14 amugh can we not do thisStupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 amBetter kiss that Bible tonight falc.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:59 am Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos
Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.
Thunal probably town.
Grand Scheme's Mastermind-Obliterator stuff was really bizarre. Looking at the OP there's no reason to think they know the mafia's identity and their treatment of that role could be TMI. Why hostile 3P? I think if anything it points to Grand Scheme being the obliterator himself.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pmbumping for visibilityAlison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:10 pmSays they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
Yes, I scumread Poison.
Ehhhh you're wrong but whatever.Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:19 amHer defense is rather shaky eh.
I didn't like her first post, called her out, didn't like her next post because of a perspective slip and she's kinda spiraled from there.
The insult posts are never townie this early on. I've been frustrated town and resorted to name calling and insult posts leading up to nf, but I see her level of flail as very scum indicative for this stage of the game.
No u not if you scum read me. Do I look like a scum to you look at me :MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:47 pmOn the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:14 amugh can we not do thisStupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 amBetter kiss that Bible tonight falc.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:59 am Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos
Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.
If he's the Obliterator he just does his own thing without bringing up optimal Obliterator play in the thread. If he's mafia he speaks to the Obliterator privately through BTSC. If he's hostile 3P and has an idea for how the Obliterator should be playing, he can post it in the thread and let the Obliterator see. The point is, there's no reason that a townie would ever have an idea about how mafia can optimize their strategy, and post it in the thread to help them out.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:47 pmGrand Scheme's Mastermind-Obliterator stuff was really bizarre. Looking at the OP there's no reason to think they know the mafia's identity and their treatment of that role could be TMI. Why hostile 3P? I think if anything it points to Grand Scheme being the obliterator himself.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:33 pmbumping for visibilityAlison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:10 pmSays they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.
I'm too soberPoison wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:49 pmNo u not if you scum read me. Do I look like a scum to you look at me :MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:47 pmOn the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:14 amugh can we not do thisStupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:08 amBetter kiss that Bible tonight falc.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:59 am Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos
Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.Spoiler: show
