The Syndicate

...wait I already did what

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:34 pm Lol alright

[VOTE: Bottom Text] aubergine

I think you meant unvote

you get three for the price of one, oh boy

Wait, we have two votes? tf?

95% of why you should listen to us is the attractive part though tbh

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:41 pm Wait, we have two votes? tf?

jokes aside

hello do you have anything to share with the class

I think our slot is being wolf read cause there are no notable fol people so katze has nothing to talk about tbh

where is chloe to get in an a 2 hour long discussion about katzes and Chloes meta when you need her

this isn't serious btw

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:23 pm

The Walrus wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:50 am Yay game
I’ve only seen a little bit of Modern Family, but always meant to watch it all at some point. Maybe this game will be the incentive I need to start.

Talk to me, tell me your name
You blow me off like it's all the same
You lit a fuse, and now I'm ticking away
Like a bomb, yeah baby

...

WHERE'D YOU GO? D:< D:< D:<

I am The Walrus, ok
I don't blow I wriggle, yay
The walrus was Paul

bottom text's recent posts are villagery

anyways i'm out till tomorrow

ha ba ba da ga da

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:43 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:41 pm Wait, we have two votes? tf?

jokes aside

hello do you have anything to share with the class

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:46 pm I think our slot is being wolf read cause there are no notable fol people so katze has nothing to talk about tbh

where is chloe to get in an a 2 hour long discussion about katzes and Chloes meta when you need her

this isn't serious btw

nutella is just chloe lite

when do u wanna start talkin nute?

but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

I see The Walrus - is that Roxy? If it is, welcome back, sooo good to have you here!

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:46 pm I think our slot is being wolf read cause there are no notable fol people so katze has nothing to talk about tbh

where is chloe to get in an a 2 hour long discussion about katzes and Chloes meta when you need her

this isn't serious btw

nutella is just chloe lite

when do u wanna start talkin nute?

ha ba ba

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

wut

@The Walrus also, besides being so glad you're here, have you been able to develop any reads yet?

Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm I see The Walrus - is that Roxy? If it is, welcome back, sooo good to have you here!

Maybe

I bias towards thinking most day 1 death matches are t/t so w/o reading it closely, i think transrights and bottom text are probably town. Bouncing off of that, wagonomics says I should give a closer look at poop to see if that's a wolf trying to push a civvie death match, so i'mma do that really quick

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

Mana, what are you seeing in their iso that is bad?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:49 pm Tim doing dumb shit he doesn't believe in is entirely Tim indicative and I'm surprised I have to say this.

to be clear, are you saying that Tim doing dumb shit is AI or NAI?

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:40 pm

Spoiler: show

you get three for the price of one, oh boy

Why is Gavial an obvious villager

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:46 pm I think our slot is being wolf read cause there are no notable fol people so katze has nothing to talk about tbh

where is chloe to get in an a 2 hour long discussion about katzes and Chloes meta when you need her

this isn't serious btw

nutella is just chloe lite

when do u wanna start talkin nute?

ha ba ba

okay im done with this gimmick its more effort than its worth

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:03 pm Why is Gavial an obvious villager

short answer: meta

long answer: meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(okay it's probably less "obvious villager" and more "probably just town" but im currently vetoing that slot dying to town KP hardcore)

Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:02 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

Mana, what are you seeing in their iso that is bad?

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:37 pm 1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
13. TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt)

this feels fake, and if not fake, forced. The post before this all about the open wolfing feel like a wolf openwolfing rather than a town openwolfing. I feel like when town open wolfing, town will go "HAHAHA I AM AN AGENT OF CHAO" rather than "hey guys i'm a wolf ". When I open wolf as town, I'm sure to be an unhelpful as possible. I don't get why someone would open wolf and then immediately try to be (or at least try to appear to be) helpful. that's weird to me.

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:05 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:03 pm Why is Gavial an obvious villager

short answer: meta

long answer: meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(okay it's probably less "obvious villager" and more "probably just town" but im currently vetoing that slot dying to town KP hardcore)

I wouldn't lean on this too hard, I feel like being thrown off by Gavial is NAI at this point

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:08 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:02 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

Mana, what are you seeing in their iso that is bad?

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:37 pm 1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
13. TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt)

this feels fake, and if not fake, forced. The post before this all about the open wolfing feel like a wolf openwolfing rather than a town openwolfing. I feel like when town open wolfing, town will go "HAHAHA I AM AN AGENT OF CHAO" rather than "hey guys i'm a wolf ". When I open wolf as town, I'm sure to be an unhelpful as possible. I don't get why someone would open wolf and then immediately try to be (or at least try to appear to be) helpful. that's weird to me.

there is the counter point where a player is less likely to go full openwolf when they have a hydra partner they don't want to screw over, but iunnno, i still don't like it. Especially with the self vote. Mixed signals all around

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:02 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:49 pm Tim doing dumb shit he doesn't believe in is entirely Tim indicative and I'm surprised I have to say this.

to be clear, are you saying that Tim doing dumb shit is AI or NAI?

NAI

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:08 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:02 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:55 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:54 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:52 pm but like actually tho, low volume might just mean low engagement. I don't have anything to say so i'm not saying anything of consequence. that's kinda how that works

you got reads? anything

looking for a scapegoat i found a wolf. falconknow's iso is awful, they're prob just bad
[VOTE: Falconknows] aubergine

Mana, what are you seeing in their iso that is bad?

FalconKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:37 pm 1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)
2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
8. The Walrus (fingersplints & Roxy)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)
11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
13. TwoAndThrough (Timsup2nuthin & hollowkatt)

this feels fake, and if not fake, forced. The post before this all about the open wolfing feel like a wolf openwolfing rather than a town openwolfing. I feel like when town open wolfing, town will go "HAHAHA I AM AN AGENT OF CHAO" rather than "hey guys i'm a wolf ". When I open wolf as town, I'm sure to be an unhelpful as possible. I don't get why someone would open wolf and then immediately try to be (or at least try to appear to be) helpful. that's weird to me.

I saw the emotes as trying to convey their thoughts about each hydra, it didn't read as fake to me or forced. I'll look back at the post before with the open wolfing but I don't really understand the concept of open wolfing very well, especially open wolfing as town. I don't know why anyone would open wolf but like I say I don't fully get it. Thank you for your thoughts though and will keep in mind as I look back.

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:09 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:05 pm

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:03 pm Why is Gavial an obvious villager

short answer: meta

long answer: meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

(okay it's probably less "obvious villager" and more "probably just town" but im currently vetoing that slot dying to town KP hardcore)

I wouldn't lean on this too hard, I feel like being thrown off by Gavial is NAI at this point

ive seen exactly one game where his alignment wasn't blatantly obvious, and in that game his interactions were kinda shit anyway

admittedly it's been a decent amount of time since i've seen him play and theres been implications that he's improved his ranges

still think they're in V meta

also me/esooa both agree that post 821 was villagery (idk if i can link to posts on this site an easy way)

so im moving back to personal wolfread while shes still banished from thread

[VOTE: poop] aubergine

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:43 pm tbh

c4/mac is probably wolfing but i don't know how to quantify this read and im too lazy to fake a reason

[VOTE: poop exploders] aubergine

do you have reasons yet?

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:34 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:33 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:31 pm

more to come

mist are we being pocketed

unrelated but your posts are pretty fire queen

extremely stupid read but i made a post similar to this in bastard mash 4 to esooa and she instantly called it out as a pocket attempt, and turns out it was and i was a wolf

esooa knows i would notice this if she made this type of post; there's functionally no way she doesn't. if she's a wolf the only way she knows i would v read this is if she thought that i would go multiple levels deep into wifom to come to the conclusion that w!esooa would be more aware that type of post is wolfy, and as a result i would come to the conclusion that it's less likely to come from w!her. otherwise i would always wolfread this because it's a tactic i've used before. if anything it would only sour my read on her more if i came to the opposite conclusion, given i'm not keen on their slot atm

either that or it's purely nai and i'm way overthinking this

ok bye for real

~azumarill

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:17 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:13 pm okay i'll transition into being serious since clearly none of you know how to have fun in a light game with friends

i'm not actually sure what esooa thinks is wolfy about mana but i think c4s posting is pretty stilted and seth is firmly in "lolseth" range where i acknowledge them as probably town but still want to vote them

ill probably bury c4 by EoD if their posting is still bad and then you can acknowledge us as obvious town like we are, capiche?

okay the thing is

while poop explosions is potentially trying to save two and through, their case on me seems way more like a wrong villager than a wolf

like i think it has holes but it generally isn't a bad case, and i can't remember c4 making any push of this type of conviction in cov. like the fact that it wasn't a complete dumpster fire of a case makes me want to village read it

in comparison two and through's looks way worse

i've spectated some games where i've seen him village it up and this aligns decently with my idea of his village game

if anything i have a bigger concern of not knowing where the heck mac is. that should be the head i should have an easier time reading.

I think their case on you is probably pretty good, and I haven't really even looked at it. Your slot has done a BUNCH of stuff that could fit a wolf agenda, and consistently when asked about those things your response has NOT been "well, sure, but here is towny reasoning for why I would do those things," it has been some variation across "no we didn't do that" which in some cases has been just flat not true, or chopping accusations at the person asking the questions.

On the flip side you have this "confident wolf read" on me. When asked why it's "he did this." Okay, yeah I did that. Why would I do that as a wolf? Well, you don't seem to know, it just isn't "how you town." So I tell you how it fits in my town agenda, and you don't care or waver. Other people say "yeah it bugs me and I hate it, but Tim as town do think that way," and you don't care or waver.

So I'm good here...you attack instead of explaining your own questionable actions, and you are just settled on what was supposed to be low hanging fruit for an easy mischop and closed your mind to anything that might force you onto a harder path. You're just a wolf. Nothing personal, and I generally like wolves, so we're good.

I think trans rights overthinking Esooa's post this deeply is probably villagery

Also Mana is an obvious wolf

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:39 pm I think trans rights overthinking Esooa's post this deeply is probably villagery

Also Mana is an obvious wolf

if ur Nutella, don't you always think Made's thoughts make no sense when he's town?

That was alison but i (nut) am not convinced town-Made points have been hit

huh. dog in due time ig

Brace for impact...associative read inbound...

Trans Rights at one point said that Mana's vote on me was "wolfy regardless of my alignment." Seemed odd at the time that I didn't just ask "so why don't you just vote them then?" but I wanted to wait and see what happened. What happened was nothing. No exploration of Mana, no explanation of the read when asked...radio silence, like maybe a distancing comment thrown out between wolves piled on the same wagon.

So now Mana has posted their share of "wolfy posts" and attracted attention from the feelie readers...and the lack of interest from Trans Rights is palpable.

The same Trans Rights that made a passing mention of "yeah the gamestate looks like Two and Through are just town" and in theory should be actively looking for a new place to vote has no interest in voting for someone they said was probably just a wolf...their only read that wasn't dependent on our flip...

Why is that?

Bottom Text is Obv Town leave them alone!
T&T lost votes, probably scum motivation.
Ima make sure the pressure stays on them forever!

-Toopy

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:50 pm Brace for impact...associative read inbound...

Trans Rights at one point said that Mana's vote on me was "wolfy regardless of my alignment." Seemed odd at the time that I didn't just ask "so why don't you just vote them then?" but I wanted to wait and see what happened. What happened was nothing. No exploration of Mana, no explanation of the read when asked...radio silence, like maybe a distancing comment thrown out between wolves piled on the same wagon.

So now Mana has posted their share of "wolfy posts" and attracted attention from the feelie readers...and the lack of interest from Trans Rights is palpable.

The same Trans Rights that made a passing mention of "yeah the gamestate looks like Two and Through are just town" and in theory should be actively looking for a new place to vote has no interest in voting for someone they said was probably just a wolf...their only read that wasn't dependent on our flip...

Why is that?

I mean I haven't really been in thread with Transrights yet idt

@Mana
Vote T&T yeah pussy cat!

-Toopy

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:55 pm Bottom Text is Obv Town leave them alone!
T&T lost votes, probably scum motivation.
Ima make sure the pressure stays on them forever!

-Toopy

for the record, my vote on T&T was a meme, I don't really have strong feelings there yet

@Akemi Hazelnut

You asked earlier who the wolves on my wagon were...and griped when I didn't have an answer immediately...after extensive investigation I have arrived at Mana and Trans Rights, with their partner/partners off wagon as the most likely world.

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:55 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:50 pm Brace for impact...associative read inbound...

Trans Rights at one point said that Mana's vote on me was "wolfy regardless of my alignment." Seemed odd at the time that I didn't just ask "so why don't you just vote them then?" but I wanted to wait and see what happened. What happened was nothing. No exploration of Mana, no explanation of the read when asked...radio silence, like maybe a distancing comment thrown out between wolves piled on the same wagon.

So now Mana has posted their share of "wolfy posts" and attracted attention from the feelie readers...and the lack of interest from Trans Rights is palpable.

The same Trans Rights that made a passing mention of "yeah the gamestate looks like Two and Through are just town" and in theory should be actively looking for a new place to vote has no interest in voting for someone they said was probably just a wolf...their only read that wasn't dependent on our flip...

Why is that?

I mean I haven't really been in thread with Transrights yet idt

Didn't keep them from talking about you.

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:55 pm Bottom Text is Obv Town leave them alone!
T&T lost votes, probably scum motivation.
Ima make sure the pressure stays on them forever!

-Toopy

This level of commitment seems out of step from someone that I don't think actually voted for me. Trying to keep your hands clean?

Bo would be a hard wolf rn without that one post ftr

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:55 pm Bottom Text is Obv Town leave them alone!
T&T lost votes, probably scum motivation.
Ima make sure the pressure stays on them forever!

-Toopy

Please point to where and how the scum "motivated" the votes off. Okay thanx, good talk.

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:58 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:55 pm

TwoAndThrough wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 8:50 pm Brace for impact...associative read inbound...

Trans Rights at one point said that Mana's vote on me was "wolfy regardless of my alignment." Seemed odd at the time that I didn't just ask "so why don't you just vote them then?" but I wanted to wait and see what happened. What happened was nothing. No exploration of Mana, no explanation of the read when asked...radio silence, like maybe a distancing comment thrown out between wolves piled on the same wagon.

So now Mana has posted their share of "wolfy posts" and attracted attention from the feelie readers...and the lack of interest from Trans Rights is palpable.

The same Trans Rights that made a passing mention of "yeah the gamestate looks like Two and Through are just town" and in theory should be actively looking for a new place to vote has no interest in voting for someone they said was probably just a wolf...their only read that wasn't dependent on our flip...

Why is that?

I mean I haven't really been in thread with Transrights yet idt

Didn't keep them from talking about you.

it would if all the tonal reason i'm read as scum came since the last time they've been online. most of my post have been on the last 2 pages