Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 1]
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:48 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Time to scum this place up!
Why?
I am an unfeeling automaton
Okay, here we go..."He gave REASONS and they make sense!!! Must be TMI!!! This is the Syndicate!!! Reads are supposed to be based on GUT, or having played a hundred games with someone so META!!! Actual THINKING going into a read is WOLF SIGN!!!"falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:14 pmI do not find setup speculation sus, because the setup is obviously highly complicated. The mafia have the GIGANTIC advantage in that they are able to share multiple role cards and get a sense of the scope. For example they most likely came in knowing that some people had far more specific shrine info while others had a wider choice but less information, which town only knows now because of the spec.Enrique wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:04 pmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:46 pmI'm not sure what it is, but this post just reeks to me.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:41 pm Okay I am caught up.
So.
LongCon is my top town read.
I do not find setup speculation sus, because the setup is obviously highly complicated. The mafia have the GIGANTIC advantage in that they are able to share multiple role cards and get a sense of the scope. For example they most likely came in knowing that some people had far more specific shrine info while others had a wider choice but less information, which town only knows now because of the spec.
That means that Scotty was uninformed, and I am gonna town read him. Alison also.
So I get three town reads off that and consider it a good thing.
Next thing, this game has an inordinate number of mafia claimers. This is annoying AF because at least one of them is probably telling the truth, but there is really no way to say which. Those towns participating in this need to get a grip. Sure, maybe you are an "oh they always meme claim mafia" townie. Maybe you genuinely don't know any other way to clear your slot. If so, get gud scrub. Because you give the wolves the opportunity to pile in behind you in a game this size when there are too many of you.
I am in favor of "all mafia claimers stop now, last one to quit gets chopped."
Next thing, Kyle's play was a little weird, but he is Kyle. The response to Kyle's weird play has been waaaaay more weird. The number of people who have said "that's wolfy," added to the number of people who not only said it but expounded on what was wolfy about it...just does not compute with there being ZERO votes on Kyle. Somewhere in there is at least one wolf, maybe even more than one, that are setting themselves up to be able to pile on a wagon because they are assuming that eventually one just has to take off there.
Not sure who the wolves are, but I am pretty sure Kyle is town.
I think that's all I have so far.
(I also don’t agree that at least one of the wolf-claimers is necessarily telling the truth, but we’ll figure that out. Otherwise it’s a great post.)
That means that Scotty was uninformed, and I am gonna town read him. Alison also.
This part just reeks of TMI.
you said that last time.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 amquin is obvious townQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:53 amyeahlost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:51 amDo you really think scum would reveal that to the thread if they no info on shrines and are not sure what town has got?
Tell the truth, you just missed me.
I have words that I am not going to say.
@Timsup2nothinTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:17 pmTell the truth, you just missed me.
Okay, other than Falcon making posts that are so dumb he's probably town not much has happened since my last pass through. Stuff to do, games to play, feel free to ping me for nothing again Syn.
Since Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?
I have tried to interact with you, you didn't respond
I was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:42 pmI didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?![]()
I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.
I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.
In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).
I made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 pmI was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:42 pmI didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?![]()
I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.
I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.
In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).
I once met a marmot on a backpacking trip. He was eating this big bag of granola and even though we were in high-fiving distance he refused.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:13 pm how come Marmot shows up after I ask where he's bean but like Don't even say hi or nothing
last time I played a game with Marmot, Marmot randed mafia scum and was lynched and I was town and town won that game. iirc, yiu was town and got misyeeted. oof. sorry bout that.. what is your point? also it was legit the only time other then this game that I played a game with them. I like Marmot’s pfp and he has a pleasant way of talking, or he did last game. im not shading Marmot by asking where he is. I wanna talk to him.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:49 pmLast time I gave Marmot shit for not showing up D1 he was town, so I'm gonna say it's NAI for now.
Quin tho has actually been ITT, but barely. Not a good look IMO.
Qwags be qwaggin' hasn't occurred yet, but it's a new site for him...I think this is his 1st game on Synd. If he doesn't start Qwaggin' soon (posting reads that make no goddamn sense), then he's in my POE.
then you disappeared and I shot you and it all worked outQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:13 pmyou said that last time.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 amquin is obvious townQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:53 amyeahlost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:51 amDo you really think scum would reveal that to the thread if they no info on shrines and are not sure what town has got?
ohScotty wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:18 pmI once met a marmot on a backpacking trip. He was eating this big bag of granola and even though we were in high-fiving distance he refused.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:13 pm how come Marmot shows up after I ask where he's bean but like Don't even say hi or nothing
Marmots gon do what Marmots gon do
We haven’t talked. I can talk to you.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 pmlast time I played a game with Marmot, Marmot randed mafia scum and was lynched and I was town and town won that game. iirc, yiu was town and got misyeeted. oof. sorry bout that.. what is your point? also it was legit the only time other then this game that I played a game with them. I like Marmot’s pfp and he has a pleasant way of talking, or he did last game. im not shading Marmot by asking where he is. I wanna talk to him.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:49 pmLast time I gave Marmot shit for not showing up D1 he was town, so I'm gonna say it's NAI for now.
Quin tho has actually been ITT, but barely. Not a good look IMO.
Qwags be qwaggin' hasn't occurred yet, but it's a new site for him...I think this is his 1st game on Synd. If he doesn't start Qwaggin' soon (posting reads that make no goddamn sense), then he's in my POE.
as for Qwags I think I might have played a game with him/her on MU. so wanted to interact with him/her and find out if we did or not.
I forget why I want to talk to Quin. I think me not getting anything about Quin is why I want to interact with him/her.
we barely talked last game. is this why u r talking about me and to me so much? sorry if I seem standoffish. I'm mostly used to people being really aggressive towards me. you did say a wordy durd earlier but it wasn't aggressive.
since you are offering up infos about peeps what about monkey and KZA?
thank you for your time and attention. ♡
hi do u remember the upick game. we were both town. odk what you are this game. I think it's cool you are having fun. I like the big fonts. could you only use the big fonts? im on mobile. the teeny tiny fonts u use sometimes is bad for my eyes.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 pmthen you disappeared and I shot you and it all worked outQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:13 pmyou said that last time.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 amquin is obvious townQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:53 amyeahlost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:51 amDo you really think scum would reveal that to the thread if they no info on shrines and are not sure what town has got?
I'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:09 pmI made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 pmI was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:42 pmI didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?![]()
I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.
I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.
In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).
You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.
yes that was a great game!DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:29 pmhi do u remember the upick game. we were both town. odk what you are this game. I think it's cool you are having fun. I like the big fonts. could you only use the big fonts? im on mobile. the teeny tiny fonts u use sometimes is bad for my eyes.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 pmthen you disappeared and I shot you and it all worked outQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:13 pmyou said that last time.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 amquin is obvious townQuin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:53 amyeahlost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:51 amDo you really think scum would reveal that to the thread if they no info on shrines and are not sure what town has got?
also what is your read on me? do you have a read on monkey?
you seem to be carrying alot of things so do you have a backpack?
my life is good. I got asked/invited to this game by dunya. do u know them? really nice. I'm looking for some wolves but idk where to find them. I hear they got a bad smell so I guess I could use my nose. someone said hoats are good at finding wolves. im no goat and im not so good at sheeping. :/ have you smeeled some b.o. on any of the peoples around these parts?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:27 pmWe haven’t talked. I can talk to you.DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 pmlast time I played a game with Marmot, Marmot randed mafia scum and was lynched and I was town and town won that game. iirc, yiu was town and got misyeeted. oof. sorry bout that.. what is your point? also it was legit the only time other then this game that I played a game with them. I like Marmot’s pfp and he has a pleasant way of talking, or he did last game. im not shading Marmot by asking where he is. I wanna talk to him.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:49 pmLast time I gave Marmot shit for not showing up D1 he was town, so I'm gonna say it's NAI for now.
Quin tho has actually been ITT, but barely. Not a good look IMO.
Qwags be qwaggin' hasn't occurred yet, but it's a new site for him...I think this is his 1st game on Synd. If he doesn't start Qwaggin' soon (posting reads that make no goddamn sense), then he's in my POE.
as for Qwags I think I might have played a game with him/her on MU. so wanted to interact with him/her and find out if we did or not.
I forget why I want to talk to Quin. I think me not getting anything about Quin is why I want to interact with him/her.
we barely talked last game. is this why u r talking about me and to me so much? sorry if I seem standoffish. I'm mostly used to people being really aggressive towards me. you did say a wordy durd earlier but it wasn't aggressive.
since you are offering up infos about peeps what about monkey and KZA?
thank you for your time and attention. ♡
Think of me as the personable Chatty Cathy and you’re the bartender and we’re the only people in the bar. Because that’s what it feels like right now.
How’s your life going?
oh dang. that stinks. you seem like a nice gal. bet the dude was trash. good riddance. bet he is stinky mafia wolf scum. give me his name. we can lynch his sorry butt. or like you think he is good? you wanna win him back?
oh sorry to hear that. I'm very familiar with Koreatown. next time you want to buy something like that hit me up. I'll help u out and make sure you get legit stuff and at a good price.
thanks. you are too. Don't be a stranger and come back anytime. do you want me to call you an Uber or lyft? or if you wanna stick around i can get you some burger and fries. on the house. it's not good to drink with an empty stomach. be safe you know? we can discuss some of the locals around here and let each other know who we think is all scumbly.
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:43 pmI'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:09 pmI made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 pmI was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:42 pmI didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?![]()
I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.
I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.
In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).
You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.
You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.
In GoC town made was a very good analytical player. He made reads and explained them so that even when he was wrong you could see that the way he was thinking fit in with trying to figure stuff out. In Double Elimination wolfMade just played "in your face, yeah I'm a wolf what of it?" and his partners were on bussing early and got a long way on that cred and very little else.
to do what, exactly?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:48 pmTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:43 pmI'm on the new end of this commitment to being cooperative, but...just nah.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:09 pmI made it pretty clear upfront that the list was kneejerk reactions. Yes, Made was easy to have a kneejerk reaction for, and I spent about 1.5 seconds considering his alignment. Don't know what more to tell you there.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:01 pmI was actually just asking you how you came up with Made as town. Based on his position in the list it seems like it was one of the "easy ones" and I legit do not see how it could be. This response to being asked about it sort of supports the idea that you just threw him onto the list in a predetermined "looks good here" position rather than actually considering what his alignment might be...so feel free to list me as "downed" because I feel pretty much the same about you.Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:42 pmI didn't think, I just sorted. My kneejerk reaction is that Made should go in "up".Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pmSince Syn pinged me just in time to see this...why Made?Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:05 pm No thought, just sort. The order in tiers is not perfectly sorted, but the people who come before others in the same tier I had an easier time making a kneejerk read on (I copied the whole list, then sorted the ones I had insta-feelz for first, then once I had a smaller list, forced myself to go through each person and sort them).
Up
Scotty
MacDougall
Made
Marmot
lost monkey
Kylemii
KZA
Long Con
DaisyCloud
Syn
falcon45ca
BoKnows
Neither
Jackofhearts2005
Qwags
Nachomamma8
Alison
Timsup2nothin
Gavial
Quin
Stupid Sexy Flanders
Down
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Enrique
TonyStarkPrime
Seanzie
I can, if forced, go along with "well, open claiming mafia is just what Seanzie does, it's NAI" and continue studying you, but Made throwing an "I'm just gonna post music vids, screw it" party is distinctly not in line with his town behavior and is a lot closer to his play in Double Elimination where he came right out the gates looking to eat the day one bus for his team.
I can get as far as this being NAI maybe, because sure, wolfMade maybe doesn't want to just die day one twice in a row and get a reputation as that wolf...but in that case why not just play his town game?![]()
I don't think I normally open claim mafia. I just decide to this game. Nothing is NAI, everything is AI if given enough context.
I feel like you said a lot of words about Made just now, but actually reading it, I get the sneaking feeling you aren't actually trying to communicate with me. Consider yourself officially downed.
In case I am wrong though, can you explain what you're saying? You seem to say that Made is playing just like wolf!Made in a recent game where he wanted to give his town a path to victory by getting bussed, but then you're saying this is NAI? Why? because wolf!Made might not want to play that way? I don't see how this would be reason to think what you're seeing in Made is NAI at all (aside from the fact that nothing is NAI).
You didn't clarify what you were saying about Made. None of it makes sense. If you're town, help me find you by explaining please.
You have done nothing but open claim mafia, make up a reads list that when questioned on you take zero responsibility for, and you want me to "help you find me"? Screw it, you can just die and watch from DVC and decide if I am town, since you are apparently not interested in being found yourself.I tried.
[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine