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Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:35 pm**

kinda wanna call DkKoba town for being just super bullheaded

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:35 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pmThe Esooa test (I think it’s from esooa) is that gav is readable based on how many people openly want to policy him vs actually think he’s a wolf. In this game, Gav is not about to get himself policied, ergo, wolf. It’s uh. A questionable strategy. I think gav is town for other reasons but he also scumtells pretty significantly when he’s a wolf so best left alone for now IMO

Alright. I'm also content to leave him be for now.

What's your scum read on me about? I feel like it's the first time you scum read me, but might be untrue. It's pretty bad. =p

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped

being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm**

I will not be back again before deadline

Tsp gav hk dk spf dizzy falcon and invictus are my town

Leaving my vote on lc as an explicit falcon save, suggest finding someone else cause killing lc d1 is pretty meh

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm**

Falcon and Long Con both are wagons, and are both voting for DK.

I already think DK is town, but this state of things makes me feel better about that.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped
being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"

I mean I think you're town so I'm not gonna argue it

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm I will not be back again before deadline

Tsp gav hk dk spf dizzy falcon and invictus are my town

Leaving my vote on lc as an explicit falcon save, suggest finding someone else cause killing lc d1 is pretty meh

Why is falcon town?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:37 pm Falcon and Long Con both are wagons, and are both voting for DK.

I already think DK is town, but this state of things makes me feel better about that.

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:38 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm i dont feel spf has played this game with an agenda thus far and so im leaning town in her direction although her lack of presence at EoD concerns me although i do understand she does have a newish job of which i dont know the details of when she is at it

If spf is scum, her teammates are likely not in danger. /some stock can go into that. She's not directing much.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:38 pm**

longcon is doing the any% speedrun to vote every townie in this game

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm**

Ok, final answer then: [VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm**

DkK, a lot of what you post are just meta thoughts about the game or mafia in general, play styles etc. You talk a lot about solving, but for me, I want to see more effort from you into analysing people's alignments.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm DkK, a lot of what you post are just meta thoughts about the game or mafia in general, play styles etc. You talk a lot about solving, but for me, I want to see more effort from you into analysing people's alignments.

i have parsed people's alignments. i have given several townreads and have a PoE already, which will be more defined once I have flip info.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped
being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"

Not necessarily. Some players just pay more attention to that kind of stuff.

For example while I’m town this game, I almost never have any idea how many players are in the game and don’t really care about set up. Mechanics aren’t my thing

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:40 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm Ok, final answer then: [VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine

Good call, my wagon doesn't have any traction.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:40 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped
being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"
Not necessarily. Some players just pay more attention to that kind of stuff.

For example while I’m town this game, I almost never have any idea how many players are in the game and don’t really care about set up. Mechanics aren’t my thing

you.. just agreed with my point while saying you disagree..

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:40 pm**

Can someone give a quick rundown of the wagons and reasons for them

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm**

based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm**

i just also got banned

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:40 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:39 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf
i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...
If only you'd actually townslipped
being less informed about the setup(being unaware of the playercount and thus not being focused on how many miselims there are) leans town IMO.

unless you think i came in and said "let me fake a townslip and draw attention to it while im already mostly townread/not on the lim list for majority"
Not necessarily. Some players just pay more attention to that kind of stuff.

For example while I’m town this game, I almost never have any idea how many players are in the game and don’t really care about set up. Mechanics aren’t my thing
you.. just agreed with my point while saying you disagree..

Not really. You said it was a town lean and I said it wasn’t alignment indicative. As in when I’m mafia I don’t give a shit about that stuff either

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm i just also got banned

then why post here..?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:35 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pmThe Esooa test (I think it’s from esooa) is that gav is readable based on how many people openly want to policy him vs actually think he’s a wolf. In this game, Gav is not about to get himself policied, ergo, wolf. It’s uh. A questionable strategy. I think gav is town for other reasons but he also scumtells pretty significantly when he’s a wolf so best left alone for now IMO
Alright. I'm also content to leave him be for now.

What's your scum read on me about? I feel like it's the first time you scum read me, but might be untrue. It's pretty bad. =p

i didn't see the 119 next to your name and i scum read you all the time

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm i just also got banned
then why post here..?

fake banned like nanook

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm**

Not much time

I'm honestly a bit uninspired, sorry.

I haven't read back and forth between Invictus and HK as I think they are probably both town. I will read it at some point though, just don't have the time.

One thing I found mildly suspicious from LC was how he reacted to my vote. He was more upset about it being a "lazy vote" and that he didn't deserve it above Nanook. I read that as more of a scum perspective, and I know LC have felt like he doesn't deserve suspicion as scum before because he hasn't "done anything wrong". That post also didn't have any other value that I could find. Still not confident in LC as scum here though. He's pretty frantic.

Alison not being here is a bummer.

Spf is pretty chill this game. I'm not totally convinced actually. I liked her getting right to sorting in the beginning, but it's gotten weaker after that.

Same for me probably. Less sure than ever, but that's ok.

Falcon is the meh-est chop. He hasn't posted anything really. If he flips town it's like ....ok?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:44 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far

I see a lot of "falcon is a wolf" and not a lot of "here's why falcon is a wolf"

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:44 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm i just also got banned

pro tip: don't get banned

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:44 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days
Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others
normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either

by lewis's trilemma he must therefore be jesus

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far

Who's Glavial?

I know you definitely don't mean Gavial because a page ago you called him town and berated me for voting him.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm**

I think Falcon is town but lemme iso him raelly quick

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pm Not much time

I'm honestly a bit uninspired, sorry.

I haven't read back and forth between Invictus and HK as I think they are probably both town. I will read it at some point though, just don't have the time.

One thing I found mildly suspicious from LC was how he reacted to my vote. He was more upset about it being a "lazy vote" and that he didn't deserve it above Nanook. I read that as more of a scum perspective, and I know LC have felt like he doesn't deserve suspicion as scum before because he hasn't "done anything wrong". That post also didn't have any other value that I could find. Still not confident in LC as scum here though. He's pretty frantic.

Alison not being here is a bummer.

Spf is pretty chill this game. I'm not totally convinced actually. I liked her getting right to sorting in the beginning, but it's gotten weaker after that.

Same for me probably. Less sure than ever, but that's ok.

Falcon is the meh-est chop. He hasn't posted anything really. If he flips town it's like ....ok?

yeah falcon flipping town is like my biggest concern but i think friction in trying to get that lim happening is like gamestate indicative they are scum - all i have to really go off of is their opportunistic vote on me as evidence as well as a PoE method of narrowing down where the pool of scum is.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days
Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others
normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either
by lewis's trilemma he must therefore be jesus

I've never seen nanook and jesus in the same room together, you may be on to something

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm**

Someone with skill in coming together and getting a group discussion going should try to make that happen in the coming days. This is a bit chaotic. The clashes in play style and frustration and stuff is less interesting for town to get into.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 pm**

yeah he's town

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pmyeah falcon flipping town is like my biggest concern but i think friction in trying to get that lim happening is like gamestate indicative they are scum - all i have to really go off of is their opportunistic vote on me as evidence as well as a PoE method of narrowing down where the pool of scum is.

Where's the friction? He seems like a default chop. I'm apathetic to his demise right now.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:46 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:45 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:42 pm based on PoE, I think Alison, Falcon, and one of Invictus/Glavial/Spf/nanook are scum here

if i were to materialize the game universe as i see it with the people i have marked as town thus far
Who's Glavial?

I know you definitely don't mean Gavial because a page ago you called him town and berated me for voting him.

did I?

i remember saying i havent exactly read and remembered any of their posts but that none of them stuck out as scummy to me

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm**

where tf is the iso feature.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:43 pmi didn't see the 119 next to your name and i scum read you all the time

Maybe you do. Wasn't even that curious.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm where tf is the iso feature.

if you're on desktop then by someone's posts you can click the number after "posts in thread" and it pulls up their iso

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:48 pm**

wagons are currently terrible

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:49 pm**

actually on reread, i can't actually bring myself to townread gav and i have some experience in sorting those types of playstyles - they seem to be egging on conflict and i dont like it.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:49 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm where tf is the iso feature.
if you're on desktop then by someone's posts you can click the number after "posts in thread" and it pulls up their iso

yes i know that but like thats so terrible there needs to be an activity overview like mafiascum has

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

I'm not inspired by the Falcon wagon tbh. I'm ok to stay on LC.

Alison or even spf would be super spicy.

Gavial wild card. I guess Koba too, considering I don't know their meta, but I read them town.

Tony town probably. First instinct probably correct.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

I'm just going to ISO the top wagons and drop a vote before EOD since it's clear I can't catch up.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

10 mins

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

Surprised lc hasn’t voted to save yet

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:47 pm where tf is the iso feature.
if you're on desktop then by someone's posts you can click the number after "posts in thread" and it pulls up their iso
yes i know that but like thats so terrible there needs to be an activity overview like mafiascum has

there's that too but you have to back out a page

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm**

Dk can you give me a sentence on spf

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:51 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm I'm not inspired by the Falcon wagon tbh. I'm ok to stay on LC.

Alison or even spf would be super spicy.

Gavial wild card. I guess Koba too, considering I don't know their meta, but I read them town.

Tony town probably. First instinct probably correct.

i am a wild card early game u are right, but it is worth to keep me alive, i very often resolve myself via the nightkill because im someone who inspires town to be active and thus am a very good kill for scum regardless of how well they might think they can get me limmed because i am very resistant to getting limmed. als owe have 10 minutes oh my how the time has gone by

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:51 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 5:50 pm Surprised lc hasn’t voted to save yet

But not surprised about falcon??

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 5:51 pm**

i want to just bullshit a read and say gavial / falcon has 1 scum between them

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