The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:07 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:03 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:02 pm [VOTE: Six strings ] aubergine
Eh.
Eh why?
You disagree that jumping in, voting ted, and then ghosting was very strange behavior?

Hes played 2 games. That's his entire history of mafia. I think he's more lost and confused than wolfy.

@Dennis what do y9u think about pops?

I really wouldn't risk wasting a day on a six lynch this early in the game.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:07 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:03 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:02 pm [VOTE: Six strings ] aubergine
Eh.
Eh why?
You disagree that jumping in, voting ted, and then ghosting was very strange behavior?
Hes played 2 games. That's his entire history of mafia. I think he's more lost and confused than wolfy.

@Dennis what do y9u think about pops?

I really wouldn't risk wasting a day on a six lynch this early in the game.

I'm going to leave my vote and see what happens.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm**

Who is pops in this context?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?

Six is my husband, dennis's dad.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?
Six is my husband, dennis's dad.

Is that in real life or like, virtually?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm**

I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm**

Clearing not cleaning

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:22 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

Never.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:24 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

At army? Didn't realize I was playing with Buster Bluth!

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:25 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?
Six is my husband, dennis's dad.
Is that in real life or like, virtually?

Real life!

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:26 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:25 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?
Six is my husband, dennis's dad.
Is that in real life or like, virtually?
Real life!

Okay, we use husband, wife, and child very loosely on SDN so I wasn't sure

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 pm**

Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:30 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 pm Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?

What to say?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:34 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:30 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 pm Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?
What to say?

Idk, you were posting as if you didn’t care for EoD and he was a villa read to you on last check

I don’t mean it to come across as a “gotcha” cuz i have some villa reads that i don’t care to see die

I was just curious as to what your thoughts were as EoD unfolded

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:37 pm**

Does falcon still have that meta where if he doesn’t do anything he’s a wolf and if he puts in some effort he’s a villa?

Might just vote him if that’s the case, but i’m not sure

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:45 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:34 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:30 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 pm Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?
What to say?
Idk, you were posting as if you didn’t care for EoD and he was a villa read to you on last check

I don’t mean it to come across as a “gotcha” cuz i have some villa reads that i don’t care to see die

I was just curious as to what your thoughts were as EoD unfolded

I wasn't really around EoD, just catching up and clueless. I thought the sudden cascade of votes to him was a bit odd but also he was mafia, so potentially justified?
I remain thinking Dennis (and pyxxy? Can't remember if pyxxy wound up there or was elsewhere) might be bussing.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:45 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:26 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:25 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?
Six is my husband, dennis's dad.
Is that in real life or like, virtually?
Real life!
Okay, we use husband, wife, and child very loosely on SDN so I wasn't sure

Lol np I have a virtual daughter too. She's a very squishy baby.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:48 pm**

sig wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm I’m not dead. Was just ridiculously busy with work + army. I’ll be around somewhat tonight/tomorrow but at army so don’t expect much. I should be into normal swing by Monday so yay.

I did a quick skim to see who died. Good job team on mafia booo that a newbie was killed.

Quick fire thought?

1. Who has played with Camille before since I’m assuming this was first game for them here.

2. I’m cleaning Kate for the kill no other reaosns. Since not caught up. I don’t think she’d have signed off on a new player death N1

Funny that you say this. I was about to bring up who may or may not have killed her based on her status as a first time TS player but I wasn't sure if I could do that. I posed it to one of the hosts and have gotten the OK.

So, I ask the entire group, which of you have played with Camilla before and does anyone know if she goes by any other names?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 5:49 pm**

i think a lot of people here played with her

spf / myself / lemon / neon / probably more

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:38 pm**

[VOTE: falcon] aubergineI'm going to start the day off with a vote for falcon. His iso is extremely underwhelming, he had exactly ZERO mentions or interactions with Sean and he seems out if his town meta.

Let's see how the day goes.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm**

Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:50 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:07 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:04 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:03 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:02 pm [VOTE: Six strings ] aubergine
Eh.
Eh why?
You disagree that jumping in, voting ted, and then ghosting was very strange behavior?
Hes played 2 games. That's his entire history of mafia. I think he's more lost and confused than wolfy.

@Dennis what do y9u think about pops?

I really wouldn't risk wasting a day on a six lynch this early in the game.

I was kind of avoiding talking about pops until he's popped in more (pun ABSOLUTELY intended) because he's very new, and I've ended up tunneling him to death as town when really he was just new and lost

For now he's in poe, I want to pressure him. Like push him to give reasons because that's normally required to get a bit more out him

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:51 pm**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:20 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:15 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:09 pm Who is pops in this context?
Six is my husband, dennis's dad.
Is that in real life or like, virtually?

Real life, I literally have both parents in this game lol

1/2 of the family

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?

I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm**

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon

Because she not around and being all loud like Neon. Plus I didn't like yesterday how she popped in to vote on the wagon then later popped in to announce that she was right.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm**

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon

Why lemon?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:46 pm**

Neon wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 11:18 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:57 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:27 pm [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine
anyway my memory is that this vote that i made tied seanzie 3-3-3 between ted, pxy, and seanzie. i'm not sure if that memory is totally accurate but i am confident that my vote tied seanzie with the other wagons

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:32 pm I'm gonna move to seanzie.
^^and bearing that in mind, kate was the first person to switch over to seanzie and put him in the "lead", and i would probably give her the most credit for the seanzie elimination actually going through

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:32 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:36 pmVote: Sean

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:39 pm Oh cool we're jumping seanzie now

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:45 pm Seanzies iso inspired precisely 0 feelings inside me

I'd kill him [VOTE: seanzie] aubergine
^^she was followed shortly by camilia, neon, and dennis

in spite of my earlier reads, i actually think if there was a busser in this progression, it's more likely to be dennis than anyone. this is because if any of seanzie's partners were present in the thread at the time, it makes sense to me that they would want to jump on his wagon to get some last minute towncred, and dennissaying that he's "going to ISO seanzie" and then jumping on him 6 minutes later feels a bit abrupt and like he is forcing himself to find an excuse to vote for seanzie instead of coming to suspect him organically

it's actually kind of hard to understand why @Dennis felt the need to jump on the seanzie wagon at all, since he didn't seem to have any clear thoughts about him ,and since he was already gonna die anyway without the vote. i would like to hear dennis talk about that more
I agree I don't think Dennis is clear at all and that they are the most likely busser by far. I just have a bussing meta so obvious people are gonna be wary of me.

i agree, but ftr, i don't think there needs to be a busser. the wagon on seanzie happened rather abruptly and only a small portion of the thread was actually here, so it's not improbable in my eyes that the wagon was entirely town driven

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:47 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 11:48 am Oh sweet, Neon is still town.

Let the summer sheep continue

have your reads changed at all w/the seanzie flip?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 8:59 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:11 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.
this post is a doozy for me

if someone can read over it and explain if this makes logical sense? how can you get 2 villa reads on 2 people opposing the thread flow... in 2 different directions???

is the thread flow either that people had said you answered poorly, or that they said you answered fine?

mm i find that one pretty easy to get a grasp on? at the time when seanzie was defending psv, the thread flow was leaning against them. at the time when neon was scumreading psv, the thread flow was leaning in favor of them. i don't think this is an unreasonable assessment for psv to make

and fwiw, the specific angle that psv takes (townreading seanzie because seanzie is defending her against a bunch of ppl who are suspicious of her) is a weird angle for her to take if they are W/W

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:02 pm**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:15 pm i'll add in a point that it's ~interesting she goes on to call seanzie villagery for "sticking to his guns" even tho he basically did the complete opposite

which was to start aggressively tunneling her early and then to drop it without much explanation as to why (if any). i don't see how that's sticking to his guns, personally

this framing kind of rubs me the wrong way because at the time that psv made that post, seanzie was in fact sticking to his guns on psv being mafia

yes, it's true that in the longterm, seanzie dropped it without much explanation, but this was after psv made the initial observation about him sticking to his guns. for example, he didn't start pushing camilia until around p#350, and psv's post about seanzie was around #250

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:07 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:30 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:03 am
Neon wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:41 am
Camilla wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:18 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:56 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:36 pm There's a certain level of terseness and defensiveness displayed by PSV that caught my eye as everyone else kind of just shrugged off Seanzie's "suspicions" which felt more like a shitpost but PSV kind of just interpreted it in a serious manner.
He said serious read, so I took it seriously. I find his reasoning lackluster.
There was very little questioning of you and/or follow-up from him.

The suspicion's either a Mac-like reaction test or just a shitpost as I don't think it's sincere in the slightest.
Well see the thing is it's a reaction test but something tells me PSV is actually gonna get tunneled by Sean now.
*Checks to do list*

Make breakfast

Work out

Play guitar

Write final exams

tunnel PSV

*puts to do list away*

Wow, how did you know?
We have a history you and I. I have figured it out.

Also because I've been side eyeing PSVs reaction so I assume you would be... but worse.
FTR, it was a joke. What did you find sus about PSV's reaction?

I am making a concerted effort to not "tunnel" people when I can, but even if I wasn't, I thought PSV's reaction was fine.

okay actually, i do understand ted's point more clearly now, because it is true tha seanzie dropped his push on PSV a bit abruptly here, and this was at a point when the rest of the thread was reasonably suspicious of the PSV slot. i think seeing this abrupt turnaround from seanzie and characterizing it as "sticking to his guns" is a bit awkward

but even so, i kind of feel like if seanzie was willing to hardbus his partner at the beginning of the game, he wouldn't abruptly drop the read like this, esp when other people were beginning to get suspicious of PSV as well. this would do nothing but diminish any towncred that seanzie would get from distancing from PSV

so yeah idk, i still struggle to see their dynamic as W/W

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:09 pm**

i think the way ted is relentlessly pursuing his scumread on psv is maybe town indicative

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:21 pm**

i'll be on and off throughout the evening if anyone wants to chat about reads, realtime would be helpful rn tbh

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 9:37 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon
Why lemon?

Gut, honestly, but I've always been right with my gutreads on lemonfairy thus far

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:30 pm**

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon
Why lemon?
Gut, honestly, but I've always been right with my gutreads on lemonfairy thus far

Have you ever played with him as maf?

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:53 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:17 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:10 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:07 pm Do we have a screenshot of the poll?
I think it was me/you/PSV/Six were on Ted's wagon, Falcon/Ted were on PSV's wagon, SPF/Lemon were on Seanzie's wagon then we both went to Seanzie's wagon and then Zenon and Dennis piled on it. Pyxxy was on Six's wagon and Seanzie was on your wagon and neither of them were on during the EoD.
good news everyone, I hit back in my browser like 6 times and I got this:
D1 poll downsized.jpg

not sure if it's right or not

Just quoting this so I can find the poll easily.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:54 pm**

And no attachment

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 10:56 pm**

Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:52 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:56 pm Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

I get you have son meta on him but Dennis being the sixth voter on Seanzie just isn't clearing. I TR lemon for other reasons but chopping pyxxy seems like fun.

Posted: **Sat May 06, 2023 11:59 pm**

[VOTE: pyxxy ] aubergine

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 2:19 am**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:30 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:37 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon
Why lemon?
Gut, honestly, but I've always been right with my gutreads on lemonfairy thus far
Have you ever played with him as maf?

No, if you mean lemonfairy as mafia

Yes, if you mean me as mafia

I guess it's more of a tone read than a gut read, its their laid back feel + not actively being scummy or sitting around doing nothing that makes me townlean

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 2:21 am**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:56 pm Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me

Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 2:23 am**

I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 7:13 am**

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 8:03 am**

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 2:21 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:56 pm Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me
Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join

Bc lemon said he was kidding.

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 9:04 am**

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:31 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:11 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:24 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:02 pm Okay, I solved the game.
Is it me?
It's you, SPF and PSV.

Serious read.
Doubt there's one in here
Rule of 3
Lmao this made me think of a Mafia game where someone listed three people, including myself, and I mentioned rule of three
Except the person was mafia and I was their partner.

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 9:08 am**

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 8:39 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:45 pm Falcon
Lemon
Neon
Pyxxy

Poe, thoughts?
I'd pull lemon out of there

And ask you why Neon
Because she not around and being all loud like Neon. Plus I didn't like yesterday how she popped in to vote on the wagon then later popped in to announce that she was right.

Something else took priority over this game. It's over now and I'm here.

Would I kill Camilla? Absolutely. Would I bus Sean? Not like that but yes.

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 9:10 am**

Meh.

Vote: PSV

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 9:38 am**

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 8:03 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 2:21 am
Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 10:56 pm Looking at this poll, lemon, neon, pyxxy and falcon all look the most sus to me
Why lemon and not me

My vote was like much worse, I don't exactly know when lemon voted but I was the last to join
Bc lemon said he was kidding.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

how did you get to your POE and explain your reasoning here
because fmpov you'd have to ignore a lot of things to get to a scumread on me

Posted: **Sun May 07, 2023 9:44 am**

(throwing out the sudden tinfoil team of Seanzie/Kate/PSV)

(I don't have anything substantial to back it up but I wanted to post it in case I'm right)

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