Re: [DAY 5] Super Meat Boy Mafia
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:30 pm
Nah.Russtifinko wrote:I also hope others will consider voting her.
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Nah.Russtifinko wrote:I also hope others will consider voting her.
I was initially alerted to his baddieness by the nonsensical attack he launched against me when I announced my intention to visit a warp zone. He said I was trying to avoid attention, but if I wanted to do that I wouldn't have announced it, much less while voting was still going on. He didn't call out others who had vanished through warp zones without comment. It seemed very disingenuous and opportunistic to me.Russtifinko wrote:So I, once again, am failing to grasp a llama case. Llama, what is it about Boomslang that initially made you think he was bad?
Yes, trying to lynch me is pointless. Do not vote for me, as it will be a vote wasted.Russtifinko wrote: I don't understand your cavalier attitude about votes unless you are in fact Dr. Fetus or Bandage Girl. In either case, trying to lynch you is pointless, though.
There are so many suspicions of who is good and who is bad in this game. It is so varied. You have one player saying, "So-and-so is bad for sure." And another players says, "What?! I am so certain he is civ!" We cannot agree on much at all in the thread and the baddies have to be loving it. We need to get someone out so we can have some more information. How often does it happen that a baddie is lynched on the first lynch? Not often. You think I don't care whether we lynch a civ or a baddie. Well, at this point, I think we just need to get some information. Whether we lynch a civ or a baddie, we will gain so much info b/c of all the varied opinions. Waiting around and spreading votes, we civs are losing strength and power.Russtifinko wrote:Actually, Elohcin is scaring me a bit, now. She's been a stalwart proponent of bandwagoning in this game (which isn''t what pings me). She's been consistent about that, but not about WHOM to bandwagon.
First she's dead certain llama is civ (as a strangely large number of players seem to be this game, imo).Elohcin wrote:Eh, I'm not worried. You don't scare methellama73 wrote:Only a baddie would make such a response. I'm on to you, Tasha.Elohcin wrote:And if I had said nothing it would have been, "Elohcin hasn't said anything to defend herself."
Honestly, I don't think you're really pinged by me at all. And, I definitely get civvie vibes from you. I admit that you pinged me a bit at first with your "odd behavior" but there was one post that you made that turned things around for me. You're okay in my book.
The next day period, she's sure enough that llama is bad to vote for him.Elohcin wrote:Bandwagony? Bandwagony!? Eh, I guess you're right. But not today folks! I still suspect that you and A Person are up to no good.thellama73 wrote:I'm voting for INH because I think Rob is good at reading his wife. Plus, she is always a little bandwagony if I remember correctly.
*votes llama*
The next day period, she's unable to give a reason for wanting to vote Hedge besides to bandwagon. As I mentioned above, bandwagoning itself isn't a problem for me. I disagree with it as a general strategy when civ, but I can understand how in this game someone could think it's a good idea. What I have a problem with is bandwagoning when you admit you have NO REASON other than the bandwagon itself to suspect someone. It reeks of just wanting people to die. I guess Elo would say she wants people to die so she can have info, but you would think if she were civ she'd prefer it be a baddie that goes. I don't see any sign of that thinking here.Elohcin wrote:Lizzy wrote:More or less bandwangon-y.Elo wrote:*votes llama* Love ya buddy, but others are right in saying that a 16-way tie would not be beneficial. Now you are tied with Dev
Which one q.m.Elo wrote:I admit that you pinged me a bit at first with your "odd behavior" but there was one post that you made that turned things around for me. You're okay in my book.
Why? Besides your tendency to bandwagon.Elo wrote:I went ahead and voted Hedge.
Why? Bandwagony again.Elo wrote:I think this is a good idea. Low posters, not llama.![]()
You. Or maybe you could suggest someone for a change.Elo wrote:Any other ideas folks?
Yes, I was trying to bandwagon. I believe we need to bandwagon in this game, try to get a baddie asap so we can move forward with some more understanding of who else is bad.
Incidentally, this is one of the posts that makes me feel good about Lizzy this game. She's asking probing questions and following answers to their conclusions to make her decisions.
And finally, here Elo just flat-out admits she wants Boomslang to die regardless of his alignment, just because he may have fewer lives than llama or her. I also don't understand what she's saying about llama here. Does she suspect him or doesn't she?Elohcin wrote:As much as I suspect llama, I have to agree that 14 lives isn't enough to suspect him. This makes me think that Boomslang has less than 14 lives. Maybe we ought to go after him next as he will take less time to lynch.Mister Rearranger wrote:What leads you guys to think 14+ lives is strange?
Granted, there are plenty of other reasons to suspect Llama (and believe me, I'm now considering them all), but I'm not following that one. :/
Boomslang wrote:
Yeah, 14 votes and surviving starts to look a bit fishy.
tl;dr:
In summary, Elo is all for just randomly lynching people this game, regardless of alignment, until....something happens? I don't really see her endgame here. It makes me think she's bad, and even if she's not bad I think she's a danger to the rest of the civs this game, because she's willing to play fast and loose with our lives by following any bandwagon she can find and killing the weak ones. I will almost certainly vote for her today, and I hope that she gives some sort of response to my post. I also hope others will consider voting her.
I agree with this. I have gone on record multiple times against the "let's just lynch anyone, because information!" argument. I think it's a wicked bad idea to not care whether the people you lynch for are actually bad.Russtifinko wrote: In summary, Elo is all for just randomly lynching people this game, regardless of alignment, until....something happens? I don't really see her endgame here. It makes me think she's bad, and even if she's not bad I think she's a danger to the rest of the civs this game, because she's willing to play fast and loose with our lives by following any bandwagon she can find and killing the weak ones. I will almost certainly vote for her today, and I hope that she gives some sort of response to my post. I also hope others will consider voting her.
Wait a tick! I'm not dangerous, I'm compliant. No reason to go after me.thellama73 wrote:I agree with this. I have gone on record multiple times against the "let's just lynch anyone, because information!" argument. I think it's a wicked bad idea to not care whether the people you lynch for are actually bad.Russtifinko wrote: In summary, Elo is all for just randomly lynching people this game, regardless of alignment, until....something happens? I don't really see her endgame here. It makes me think she's bad, and even if she's not bad I think she's a danger to the rest of the civs this game, because she's willing to play fast and loose with our lives by following any bandwagon she can find and killing the weak ones. I will almost certainly vote for her today, and I hope that she gives some sort of response to my post. I also hope others will consider voting her.
The only reason I am not voting for you is that I trust Rob, and I trust Rob to read you. I still think it's a bad strategy you endorse, though.Elohcin wrote:Wait a tick! I'm not dangerous, I'm compliant. No reason to go after me.thellama73 wrote:I agree with this. I have gone on record multiple times against the "let's just lynch anyone, because information!" argument. I think it's a wicked bad idea to not care whether the people you lynch for are actually bad.Russtifinko wrote: In summary, Elo is all for just randomly lynching people this game, regardless of alignment, until....something happens? I don't really see her endgame here. It makes me think she's bad, and even if she's not bad I think she's a danger to the rest of the civs this game, because she's willing to play fast and loose with our lives by following any bandwagon she can find and killing the weak ones. I will almost certainly vote for her today, and I hope that she gives some sort of response to my post. I also hope others will consider voting her.
First partEpignosis wrote:I'm going to renege on my thought that thellama73 is Dr. Fetus. This is attrition warfare; hastening the day of one's own vulnerability by not hiding Bandage Girl to hide one's identity is a poor strategy.
That doesn't absolve him, of course.
Discuss away, dear sir!Devin the Omniscient wrote:This!!! And your larger post that I didn't want to quote. I honestly have no idea where to look (I wouldn't mind continuing to vote for Jigsaw but I'm a little biased there). So far the only baddie discussion has been regarding Dr. Fetus, and obviously we can't benefit from voting for him right now. So that leaves me with no other real leads unfortunately, and.... Oh yes! Weren't we going to have a discussion today?Mister Rearranger wrote:Agreed. It would be very fortunate to take care of Little Horn today, while all players are on the poll. Any thoughts on where you're looking?Mongoose wrote:Little Horn especially scares me; there must be several civ players that are nearly out of lives. Those civ deaths will only power him up further.![]()
What are your thoughts on DP, BWiT, and A Person, the other 3 people who made the day 3 lynch but miss the day 4 one? And myself too, for that matter?Devin the Omniscient wrote: [Insert deflection here]Where the fuck is Vompers?? I think that self-voter is Dr. FetusThink about it... Votes himself, disappears, then Fetus forgets to hide Bandage Girl??
Agreed.Lizzy wrote:
This strikes me as really pingy. "Compliant" sounds an awful lot like "blendy." Llama the strongarm?Elohcin wrote:Wait a tick! I'm not dangerous, I'm compliant. No reason to go after me.thellama73 wrote:I agree with this. I have gone on record multiple times against the "let's just lynch anyone, because information!" argument. I think it's a wicked bad idea to not care whether the people you lynch for are actually bad.Russtifinko wrote: In summary, Elo is all for just randomly lynching people this game, regardless of alignment, until....something happens? I don't really see her endgame here. It makes me think she's bad, and even if she's not bad I think she's a danger to the rest of the civs this game, because she's willing to play fast and loose with our lives by following any bandwagon she can find and killing the weak ones. I will almost certainly vote for her today, and I hope that she gives some sort of response to my post. I also hope others will consider voting her.
I already commented on why i missed the poll, due to the wind we briefly lost power about 10 times that night, I completely forgot to vote. I don't have any real suspicions today.Russtifinko wrote:A Person, MR just mentioned that you missed the Day 4 poll. Anything to say about that, or about your suspicions for today?
Good point, I think I'll vote for him too.Vompatti wrote:I voted *Mister Rearranger* for no apparent reason.
You mean other than the fact that Lizzy also voted him? :PVompatti wrote:I voted *Mister Rearranger* for no apparent reason.
Still no response to this, Lizzy.Also odd that she cites picking apart my posts as a valid reason to reach a conclusion about someone she's never played with when that exact same reasoning didn't fly with her when I gave it re: Mongoose and Llama. Just some asides...
I'm very much interested in the info that will follow a lynch. Isn't that what I have been saying? That is why we need a lynch. I'm also very interested in lynching baddies! What I would LOVE to see is an agreement on who is a bad and then we all vote together but that just ain't happenin' with the suspicions all over the place as they are. I haven't really contributed to the suspicions much, I know. Even though is is Day 5 it feels like there is still not much to go on. And, I know you all think I am crazy with my gung-ho attitude, but let's get this party startedRusstifinko wrote:
I'm worried you just want people dead and not the info that comes with their deaths, so I'm voting Elo.
Someone other than Epi trusts me?Mongoose wrote:EBWOP: I also trust Elohcin and she is not a nutty bast*ard, for the record.
I really have absolutely no read on any of the 3 players you mentioned here. AP and DP are always the exact opposite of me and yourself and don't give much to go on. I believe I have helped lynch civ AP for this reason beforeMister Rearranger wrote:What are your thoughts on DP, BWiT, and A Person, the other 3 people who made the day 3 lynch but miss the day 4 one? And myself too, for that matter?Devin the Omniscient wrote: [Insert deflection here]Where the fuck is Vompers?? I think that self-voter is Dr. FetusThink about it... Votes himself, disappears, then Fetus forgets to hide Bandage Girl??
I really don't feel comfortable with the "Fetus can't be killed yet, so he's taking his own lives" assumption. I stil think remaining lives could factor into the equation for him and his target during Chapter 6.
Also, the portion of your post that I didn't quote comes across as massively jokey-overdefensive, and I'm saying this as the king of getting lynched for those kinds of posts.
I'm really a black and white person if you can't see that already. My better half helps me see the great almost on a daily basis. However, my black and white outlook on life has saved him 10% on a guitar before.Matahari wrote:i agree with you MR, about Eloh's posting style. She makes the most honest posts I've seen in mafia in a long time, no matter what her affiliation might be. Sometimes they make me laugh because I wish I had said it. This may turn into a mafia strength for her in time.
Mongoose wrote:@ RussTea. I think I am seeing a very civ Dev this round. He got us all good in Bioshock, and he won't dolphin me so easily next time. That said, Devin isn't as hard to read usually (for me anyway) as some of our notoriously hard to read dudes (INH, BWT). When he's bad, he has this tell, where he repeats words. He didn't do that in Homestar or AG2 (which I read when Bioshock was starting up because I needed quick familiarity with you lot of crazies), but he did it off the charts in Bioshock. He said blasphemy and supposed a lot, which caught my attention. I'm going to Civ Zone Dev for now.
I think we need to be careful as Llama is probably crawling on his last llama legs. I bet he would pop up civ too. I'm going to throw my lot in with Llama and Dev because I trust those nutty bast*ards and hope you will too. He's zany but that's only illegal in The Falkland Islands.
BTW, I had suspected Nev to be the killer of Mongoose 1.0 but then he popped up dead the very next night. Who is scared of the wee lil mongoose?
* Votes Boomaslangadangarang *
Changing tactics I seeVompatti wrote:I voted *Mister Rearranger* for no apparent reason.
No.Mongoose wrote:You mean other than the fact that Lizzy also voted him? :PVompatti wrote:I voted *Mister Rearranger* for no apparent reason.
Wait!... WAIT!!! ... Did you just tell us what I think you told us??? Pleeease tell me I'm misreading this and over-reacting again!!!thellama73 wrote:FYI, I am finished, so no one else bother wasting votes on me. It's been fun, y'all.
Is your avatar an attempt to blend into the background??Vompatti wrote:No.Mongoose wrote:You mean other than the fact that Lizzy also voted him? :PVompatti wrote:I voted *Mister Rearranger* for no apparent reason.
Don't die.thellama73 wrote:FYI, I am finished, so no one else bother wasting votes on me. It's been fun, y'all.
Ah I'm just messin' with him... For now...Mongoose wrote:Don't die.thellama73 wrote:FYI, I am finished, so no one else bother wasting votes on me. It's been fun, y'all.
Also, I can never tell if you are making fun of me when you randomly say "y'all." I am guessing not since you didn't say anything about NPR, Rachel Maddow, or probiotics.
Dev - Vomps' avatar was from Minimalism game. I chose that avatar for him, so please don't impute any baddieness from that alone.
If thats the case then you arent Bandage Girl, so which is it?thellama73 wrote:FYI, I am finished, so no one else bother wasting votes on me. It's been fun, y'all.
A few posts ago, Llama hinted that he will be lynched today.Hedgeowl wrote:I am highly conflicted, but I find myself partly agreeing Elo's logic if not her method. We do need info badly and the only way to get it it seems is to lynch someone. No one will be lynched again today it seems, so I want better confirmation on Llama since this is really all that can be learned at this point.
votes llama