The Syndicate

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:A lot of the time I see baddies pick off people who are not super engaged, but not completely silent either. I don't really understand that reasoning, but I've seen it happen a lot. I think Dom fell into that category.

Why do you think that is? Why not pick off someone completely silent? The possibility they may return to the game and inadvertently be pro-baddie in their appeals?

I suspect they go after peple they think are least likely to take lynch votes. MRThomas was lynched because he said nothing. Mister Rearranger (both lynches have been "Mister." Sexist.) got killed for being too blabby. Dom was in no danger of taking lynch votes, so that's probably why they killed him.

Or he mentioned the baddies in his posts, or he said he would reread someone, OR the baddies were setting up someone to look like they killed him.

S~V~S wrote:Or he mentioned the baddies in his posts, or he said he would reread someone, OR the baddies were setting up someone to look like they killed him.

Both are certainly possibilities.

Rereading Dom, he never really came out and said he suspected anyone. He only voted in one lynch poll, for JJJS. I can't see anyone thinking him a threat.

Voting llama b/c of reasons stated earlier.

Elohcin wrote:Voting llama b/c of reasons stated earlier.

You voted against me yesterday, for MrThomas, before switching you vote to, again not me, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. If the "reasons stated earlier" were so compelling, why didn't you vote for me yesterday? I find your voting behavior very suspicious this game.

Okay, just got home, super tired. Unfortunately any other comments I have will have to wait until tomorrow evening; I am going to go to bed in a few minutes.

HOWEVER, I did check to see who died, and RIP Dom. Also,

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Voting llama b/c of reasons stated earlier.

You voted against me yesterday, for MrThomas, before switching you vote to, again not me, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. If the "reasons stated earlier" were so compelling, why didn't you vote for me yesterday? I find your voting behavior very suspicious this game.

Does this mean you find Elo suspicious?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Voting llama b/c of reasons stated earlier.

You voted against me yesterday, for MrThomas, before switching you vote to, again not me, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. If the "reasons stated earlier" were so compelling, why didn't you vote for me yesterday? I find your voting behavior very suspicious this game.

Does this mean you find Elo suspicious?

I do now, yeah.

thellama73 wrote:Hm. That's an odd choice. RIP Dom.

Votes Mongoose.

Remind me your reasons again?

johns2jj wrote:Randomized for now to vote mongoose. Will come back later most likely to change vote but just in case I wanted to get it out of the way.

Is this a code for I found something out?
I 'm kind of struggling here because you all play quite differently than I'm used to. Why would you randomize a vote after so many days, and how the hell does Mongoose get the randomized votes in every game...
If you think someone is suspicious and you're afraid you won't make it to vote again, why not vote them, and decide later if you want to change your mind. This either makes you suspicious in my eyes, or makes me think you have something on her and using the "randomized" vote as an excuse. If it's the latter, I'd expect you to convince us to vote her as well, so I'm going with suspicious, and might vote for you.

thellama73 wrote:A lot of the time I see baddies pick off people who are not super engaged, but not completely silent either. I don't really understand that reasoning, but I've seen it happen a lot. I think Dom fell into that category.

I can add to this that, as a baddie, I go after people who either fit this category or people who were not suspecting me at all. So I would consider this to be a fairly likely possibility.

And RIP Dom!

FZ. wrote:

johns2jj wrote:Randomized for now to vote mongoose. Will come back later most likely to change vote but just in case I wanted to get it out of the way.

Is this a code for I found something out?
I 'm kind of struggling here because you all play quite differently than I'm used to. Why would you randomize a vote after so many days, and how the hell does Mongoose get the randomized votes in every game...
If you think someone is suspicious and you're afraid you won't make it to vote again, why not vote them, and decide later if you want to change your mind. This either makes you suspicious in my eyes, or makes me think you have something on her and using the "randomized" vote as an excuse. If it's the latter, I'd expect you to convince us to vote her as well, so I'm going with suspicious, and might vote for you.

I did find that super weird, but I wasn't sure if it's just because I was the one randomized.

Mongoose wrote:

FZ. wrote:

johns2jj wrote:Randomized for now to vote mongoose. Will come back later most likely to change vote but just in case I wanted to get it out of the way.

Is this a code for I found something out?
I 'm kind of struggling here because you all play quite differently than I'm used to. Why would you randomize a vote after so many days, and how the hell does Mongoose get the randomized votes in every game...
If you think someone is suspicious and you're afraid you won't make it to vote again, why not vote them, and decide later if you want to change your mind. This either makes you suspicious in my eyes, or makes me think you have something on her and using the "randomized" vote as an excuse. If it's the latter, I'd expect you to convince us to vote her as well, so I'm going with suspicious, and might vote for you.

I did find that super weird, but I wasn't sure if it's just because I was the one randomized.

Who do you think you're going to vote for?

I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

Vompatti wrote:I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

That is so helpful, thanks.

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

That is so helpful, thanks.

No need to thank me, it's all in a day's work.

Vompatti wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

That is so helpful, thanks.

No need to thank me, it's all in a day's work.

But you're working so hard. It's above and beyond the call of duty

Now seriously, do you actually read people's posts? If so, what do you think of other people other than yourself.

The way I'm seeing it now, you're playing two games. In one, you're a baddie and in one, probably a civ. You're trying to appear exactly the same, so you're voting for yourself in both in the hopes that people don't think you would do that as a baddie. You also can't appear different in the two games, so you're going with exactly the same tactic.

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

That is so helpful, thanks.

No need to thank me, it's all in a day's work.

But you're working so hard. It's above and beyond the call of duty

Now seriously, do you actually read people's posts? If so, what do you think of other people other than yourself.

The way I'm seeing it now, you're playing two games. In one, you're a baddie and in one, probably a civ. You're trying to appear exactly the same, so you're voting for yourself in both in the hopes that people don't think you would do that as a baddie. You also can't appear different in the two games, so you're going with exactly the same tactic.

I've read some of the shorter ones. As a rule of thumb, if it has more than 1 (one) line, I don't read it.

Not sure where i am going here, i have to rethink a bit. Mr T turning up civ makes me feel differently about llama, although just HOW differently is the question. Him consistently voting for her based on a Day One weak ping, and her going jollily along with it and defending him confuses me a bit. I have seen her do this when both bad and civ, so not sure what if anything that says.

But even if she has no issue with his votes for a weak ping, I still kinda do. So not sure if I plan to vote for him, call his bluff and vote for her, or go a third option.

And Vomp actively trying to draw votes is interesting.

The nature of prison is such that there's quite a turnover rate. Not everyone in here is a mass murderer. Many are thieves or arsonists. Many are embezzlers, rapists, or vandals. Very often guys get released, never to be seen or heard from again. But I suppose it's the nature of mankind that we'll never have empty prisons.

I am in need of one replacement. PM me if you or someone you know would like to participate.

Vompatti wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'm getting the maximum amount of baddie vibes from *Vompatti*, so that's where my vote goes.

That is so helpful, thanks.

No need to thank me, it's all in a day's work.

But you're working so hard. It's above and beyond the call of duty

Now seriously, do you actually read people's posts? If so, what do you think of other people other than yourself.

The way I'm seeing it now, you're playing two games. In one, you're a baddie and in one, probably a civ. You're trying to appear exactly the same, so you're voting for yourself in both in the hopes that people don't think you would do that as a baddie. You also can't appear different in the two games, so you're going with exactly the same tactic.

I've read some of the shorter ones. As a rule of thumb, if it has more than 1 (one) line, I don't read it.

I do that and scan for people mentioning my name.

FZ. wrote: Yeah, I got it. Thanks. I'd compare it to the Eurovision song contest, but most of you probably wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Looking at how much more posts Lizzie now has in the other game, what does it make you think about her? Maybe she's bad there and not here. I would think that keeping up in this game would be easier since there are less people and less catching up to do. Yet, surprisingly, she is more into the other game. Maybe she's trying harder there because she's a baddie there, but maybe not.

EUROVISION! I love Eurovision. I know what you mean. Countries always vote for the ones near them no matter what, even if the song is terrible. (Votes are good in Eurovision, unlike mafia. Maybe Vomps thinks we're playing that since he lives in Finalnd. But apparently he never reads my posts:

Vompatti wrote:I've read some of the shorter ones. As a rule of thumb, if it has more than 1 (one) line, I don't read it.

S~V~S wrote:Not sure where i am going here, i have to rethink a bit. Mr T turning up civ makes me feel differently about llama, although just HOW differently is the question. Him consistently voting for her based on a Day One weak ping, and her going jollily along with it and defending him confuses me a bit. I have seen her do this when both bad and civ, so not sure what if anything that says.

But even if she has no issue with his votes for a weak ping, I still kinda do. So not sure if I plan to vote for him, call his bluff and vote for her, or go a third option.

And Vomp actively trying to draw votes is interesting.

I also think this is weird. I know a lot of people (myself included, sometimes) think NO Us are suspicious, but it's turning out that wholly supporting the person voting you seems strange to me, too.

I'm starting to consider the possibility that they're baddie teammates and it's a clever ploy. I'm considering adding my vote to her to find out. I would feel bad helping get her lynched in 2 games right before Christmas, though.

S~V~S wrote: I tend to view them (and A Person & Boats, to a lesser extent) as people playing for reasons other than more traditional reasons for playing Mafia, avant garde Mafia players if you will. As i said previously, I think they are somewhat more topical in BTS situations. So I no longer necessarily think she is bad based on her low posting. Prior experience as well as my reread lead me to rather the opposite conclusion.

I thought this was the best explanation I've seen for some players like A Person, Vomps, and sometimes Lizzy.

Oh dang! Does this poll really end in 2 hours???

Russtifinko wrote:Oh dang! Does this poll really end in 2 hours???

You're traveling, are you not? Check your time zone settings.

S~V~S wrote:Not sure where i am going here, i have to rethink a bit. Mr T turning up civ makes me feel differently about llama, although just HOW differently is the question. Him consistently voting for her based on a Day One weak ping, and her going jollily along with it and defending him confuses me a bit. I have seen her do this when both bad and civ, so not sure what if anything that says.

But even if she has no issue with his votes for a weak ping, I still kinda do. So not sure if I plan to vote for him, call his bluff and vote for her, or go a third option.

And Vomp actively trying to draw votes is interesting.

Interesting. Which is it going to be. Are you waiting for the last minute to vote?

I need to phone in this vote. I'm going to bed now. At 11am. I haven't been to bed yet. Oh pretend this is green; I'm on my phone. I have 2 votes and llama has 2 votes so to protect us (I still think he is a misguided civ); I'm going to tie it up with a vomps vote as you all will have plenty of time (and votes) to break the tie.

I don't like to phone in votes and try not to do it more than once per game, so ill try to keep it to this one instance (t's not my fault the Alien quadrilogy was on IFC all night).

FZ. wrote:

johns2jj wrote:Randomized for now to vote mongoose. Will come back later most likely to change vote but just in case I wanted to get it out of the way.

Is this a code for I found something out?
I 'm kind of struggling here because you all play quite differently than I'm used to. Why would you randomize a vote after so many days, and how the hell does Mongoose get the randomized votes in every game...
If you think someone is suspicious and you're afraid you won't make it to vote again, why not vote them, and decide later if you want to change your mind. This either makes you suspicious in my eyes, or makes me think you have something on her and using the "randomized" vote as an excuse. If it's the latter, I'd expect you to convince us to vote her as well, so I'm going with suspicious, and might vote for you.

It was randomized among those I considered likely to be a baddie. Does that sound better?

I am switching so there is not another tie.

Do the dead still get to vote? MR

How is it, that when I press the "view votes" button, I see 0 votes?

meant "view results"

VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

Lizzy wrote:VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

I might not be, but there's only one (1) way to find out, if you know what I mean.

Epignosis wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Oh dang! Does this poll really end in 2 hours???

You're traveling, are you not? Check your time zone settings.

I am indeed. Thanks!

FZ. wrote:How is it, that when I press the "view votes" button, I see 0 votes?

See Epi's post above.

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

I might not be, but there's only one (1) way to find out, if you know what I mean.

omgwtf you can tell me, no-one has to know, if you catch my drift

My time settings say something about UTC. I tried to look it up, and I think it means the poll ends after midnight my time, which means a bedtime vote.

NOTE TO EPI: I don't want to miss the poll, but am not 100% certain about the time stuff. In case I do not click a vote button by the deadline, I hereby request that my vote be for Vomps.

I don't have the heart to vote Mongoose yet, and I'm a little suspicious of llama but I've helped lynch him wrongly a lot lately, so I'm not confident my suspicions are warranted. I mafia'ed a bunch the past couple hours and got tired, so I don't feel like considering people besides those 3. I'll vote later though, to allow for the possibility of my mind being changed or of getting more energy.

I still don't really trust llama's case against Mongoose, so I'm voting llama today.

Also, I apologize for not posting more. It's been crazy busy for me lately, but once Christmas is over I should have a bit more free time. All I have time for now is skimming/catching up and voting.

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

I might not be, but there's only one (1) way to find out, if you know what I mean.

omgwtf you can tell me, no-one has to know, if you catch my drift

I could if I had BTSC with you if you know what I mean.

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

I might not be, but there's only one (1) way to find out, if you know what I mean.

omgwtf you can tell me, no-one has to know, if you catch my drift

I could if I had BTSC with you if you know what I mean.

yurt but you could also tell me here while no-one is looking

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:VMOPS! Are you really bad? And if yus, can I vote for you?

I might not be, but there's only one (1) way to find out, if you know what I mean.

omgwtf you can tell me, no-one has to know, if you catch my drift

I could if I had BTSC with you if you know what I mean.

yurt but you could also tell me here while no-one is looking

ture

I really want to know what SVS is voting.

Fine! I see how this is!

I'll still vote for SVS, although I would've really liked to pull a nice no u on FZ, but if she is lynched then no-one will suspect me anymore and then I'll get NK'd k

Lizzy wrote:Fine! I see how this is!

I'll still vote for SVS, although I would've really liked to pull a nice no u on FZ, but if she is lynched then no-one will suspect me anymore and then I'll get NK'd k

If it makes you feel better, you can No U me, since I'll be voting for someone else today, so it wouldn't exactly be that. If you feel left out, you could always vote for yourself again.

Does anyone know where the tally is standing right now? Who has what votes?

I think llama voted Mongoose and so did someone else. Mongoose voted for Vomp, and so did he himself. Did anyone else vote him? I think two people voted for llama. Who were they? And are there other votes not shown in the poll?

FZ. wrote:Does anyone know where the tally is standing right now? Who has what votes?

I think llama voted Mongoose and so did someone else. Mongoose voted for Vomp, and so did he himself. Did anyone else vote him? I think two people voted for llama. Who were they? And are there other votes not shown in the poll?

It was 2-2-2. llama and john voted Mongoose, eloh and I (and now BWT) voted llama, and vomps and mongoose voted vomps.

So, currently 3 votes on llama, 2 on Mongoose, 2 on vomps, and 1 on SVS.

All that assuming that no one had voted without posting.

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Voting llama b/c of reasons stated earlier.

You voted against me yesterday, for MrThomas, before switching you vote to, again not me, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. If the "reasons stated earlier" were so compelling, why didn't you vote for me yesterday? I find your voting behavior very suspicious this game.

Did you not read my big theory of a case against you that I wrote at the beginning of Night 3? I think you are Bogs and JJ is your fellow Sister.