I all but threw you under the bus when MP asked me if i had any suspects or anyone who seemed off.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you referring to here? Because I'm lost.S~V~S wrote: Linki~ I bet BWT doesn't like what Made says about him
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Throwing someone under the bus usually means a teammate turning against another teammate. Are you and BWT teammates?Made wrote:I all but threw you under the bus when MP asked me if i had any suspects or anyone who seemed off.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you referring to here? Because I'm lost.S~V~S wrote: Linki~ I bet BWT doesn't like what Made says about him
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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S~V~S wrote:At this point, i am considering giving Enrique the benefit of the doubt. Something he has said gives me pause. He said something to me during last nights shitstorm, and the more I think about it, the more I want to trust Enrique. He makes a lot of sense. It does not mean he is right, though, and tbh, I am having a hard time thinking both/either MP & Enrique would go out on a limb like this over Made if they were bad together. In WWE, when i was taking suspicion, and MP (my teammate) was nudging me towards the Greyhound, and I whined to him about it, he told me I was "fucking toast" (he died and i went on to win, so) but anyhow, I don't see him as someone to ever defend a bad teammate this hard.
But really, Made, stuff like this does not help.
Made wrote:
And metalmarsh, please read this before finallizing your decision.
Oh.... Llama made more points..lol...
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2. He lied about Roxy clearing the chat 8 seconds before, which he somehow "remembered" despite not being there. the way the chat works is if you leave and rejoin, you see all messages you missed. That said, I had chat open and almost got kicked for being afk. When you brought up this point, the last messages were something along the lines of "Roxy cleared chat 8 seconds ago" "Dispor left 10 seconds ago" and "Dana joined 6 seconds ago". Basically this was a joke, as obviously if the messages appeared in that order the time stamps were incorrect.
First off, saying "lol" when people make points doesn't make the game fun for them. Please don't do that. And if I see Llama belittling you, I will scold him as well. I am as old as your Grandma, I am good at scolding people~ I sharpen my knitting needles daily![]()
You did lie. I looked in the side stream to see who was in the room, you were not. None of the times I visited. You did not go in there until well after I said you had not been in there. Now, with you, lying does not mean you are bad obviously (I hate talking about an ongoing game, but it is what it is). But I know what I saw, you were not in there. Dana had been, and Daisy as well. Not you. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, you said something, and when questioned on it, said the first thing that came into your head. We all do it all the time in rl. Words to live by~ don't do it in mafia.
And I was the first one to bring the no lynch thing back up (I think so at least) becasue I suspected you from that point on. When you tried to justify wanting a no lynch based on the maths, that opened my eyes wide, Made.
reywaS wrote:Mister Rearranger wrote:Count me in on the "interested in what Made and Rey have to say" group.
As far as I know, you are the founding member of this particular group. What is it that you are interested in hearing from me?
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What happened to the S~V~S that ALWAYS gives newbies a pass on Day 1 (a la Thomas)? Why aren't you understanding here that Made has only played one (speed) game before? I'm not saying you should bypass suspicion of him for that, but you seem to not take it into consideration when you find him suspicious for things. Almost everyone around here is grilling Made, except for perhaps one of the two people that know him BEST (Enrique), for gameplay that is just odd and wacky and inexplicable, but not exactly beneficial for a baddie to take.
So when does a person stop being a nub, MP? Three games? It seems to me that you are almost angry at me for suspecting him. He is one of the most entertaining players i have met in a while, but I did not like a series of things he did, on day one, and am discussing it. Shitstorn ensues. I gotta wonder why. It's funny, YOUR resistance to this suspicion is making me MORE suspicious of him, but Enriques resistance is making me LESS suspicious of him.
How the heck could his day 0 comment about no lynch PING YOU LIKE CRAZY, as you've said? You and I both know there are other sites that have a no lynch option (KSite, for one), and while I agree with you that I don't like the option, how can you not understand a scenario where Made is still pretty new to the game, a lone civvie, and knows only tangentially about the rules of the game, and thought, hey, maybe a no lynch option is in our best interest, even if you disagree?
Becasue it pinged me like crazy. How could me having only one suspect 4 hours into day one ping you so much that it has provoked this level of passion from you? I think No Lynches are a baddie tool, tbh. And that combined with him wanting to discuss the math when no one knows how many are in each faction seemed very like trying to misdirect discussion; he is doing all the things I do when bad. Maybe he's a freaking natural, like Bass, who knows? That is how it pinged the hell out of me.
It's opportunistic because even though you questioned Made you didn't start pushing hard until Llama came forth with his observation.
What benefit would a baddie have to lie about the amount of minutes a chat was closed down or erased?
That isn't even true. I questioned him on Day Zero, about the numbers. Like i said, you seem outraged that I suspect him, and almost seem to be No Uing me FOR him, if that makes sense.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I think Llama is genuine in his suspicion of Made, especially given the way he declared his observations and his posts since. Maybe others are too. But I'm absolutely CONVINCED that baddies would love to jump on this train and then come back and point fingers at Llama and originally me, until I started considering the counterarguments more. I believe one of those baddies is likely S~V~S. Seriously, go back and read her posts. She may have questioned Made about the D0 thing, but she didn't really start ramping up her suspicion of Made until after all of this discussion that Llama started. Additionally, I just can't get my finger around it, but the way you're going about your 'tunnel vision' and the way you've spoken about it just seems like you're trying too hard to seem like your normal civvie self.
Somewhere else you said i was being too aggressive and MORE aggressive than my civvie self. make up your mind. I start to read a few posts, i feel all reasonable like, then I read your posts. I almost feel like you are trying to ramp me up. Nice try if so, but I gave up hypertension for the summer. Try again on tuesday
reywaS wrote:Bullzeye, I think it's an exercise in futility to try to figure out how any random baddie team would help (or not) a new player.
Wisdom.
I am at 10 AM ha ha.
Linki, LC I was proud of that game, I had the civvies eating out of my hands. When i have a successful baddie tactic, I look for others doing the same, don't you? Also if talking about it alot keeps the baddies from railroading a civ or two (and my team railroaded at least 5 with that tactic in that game) whats the harm?
aww. why thank you. And thanks again for suggesting I play this game. I'm having a lot of fun so far....even if it does take an hour to catch up each time I come to the thread.

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juliets Seems a bit bewildered, did not love being called out to verify Mades chat stuff
I was ping-a-linged by juliets for that. Seems like she was/is trying to go out of her way to play a low key game and being called out like that really effed up her plan....like she could be a baddie not wanting to be noticed yet.
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Okay. That's what I was thinking, but I thought SVS was referring to something else that happened in addition to that. Nevermind then.Made wrote:I all but threw you under the bus when MP asked me if i had any suspects or anyone who seemed off.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you referring to here? Because I'm lost.S~V~S wrote: Linki~ I bet BWT doesn't like what Made says about him
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I'm not crazy about The Beatles either. I think they were foundational for the great bands after them. Just like how socialists need capitalist principles to carry on aboutS~V~S wrote:I don't like Communism all that much anymore, not like i used to, just modified Socialism. I am mellowing in my old age. And thanks, I think...maybe...

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Basically, I'm not good at making friends.
It sucks. Ik that burden of proof for another compelling arguement is on me, but I just don't have the time to read through the entire thread again. Not before the next vote anyways....
And since I like my goats to be front and center, to address arguements against Juliet, the arguement is strong. It didn't ping me, but in retrospect it was strange.
It sucks. Ik that burden of proof for another compelling arguement is on me, but I just don't have the time to read through the entire thread again. Not before the next vote anyways....
And since I like my goats to be front and center, to address arguements against Juliet, the arguement is strong. It didn't ping me, but in retrospect it was strange.
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Epignosis wrote:Lots of things you like suck. Like Communism. They don't suck just because you like them though.S~V~S wrote:Linki~ thanks for saying things I like suck


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People who play BWT, would you expect this from civvie BWT?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Okay. That's what I was thinking, but I thought SVS was referring to something else that happened in addition to that. Nevermind then.Made wrote:I all but threw you under the bus when MP asked me if i had any suspects or anyone who seemed off.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you referring to here? Because I'm lost.S~V~S wrote: Linki~ I bet BWT doesn't like what Made says about him
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What sad times we live when kids do not know how to spell John LennonEpignosis wrote:"Give Peace a Chance" by Jon Lennon sucks. Thank goodness for "Your Move."

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To specify, I was expecting a larger responce about the points against him rather than just an oh ok. iunnnoMade wrote:People who play BWT, would you expect this from civvie BWT?birdwithteeth11 wrote:Okay. That's what I was thinking, but I thought SVS was referring to something else that happened in addition to that. Nevermind then.Made wrote:I all but threw you under the bus when MP asked me if i had any suspects or anyone who seemed off.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity, what are you referring to here? Because I'm lost.S~V~S wrote: Linki~ I bet BWT doesn't like what Made says about him

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You're right. I don't know how to spell "John." It couldn't be that I'm drinking on a weeknight and thinking about Yes, whose lead singer is Jon Anderson, and to whose song I alluded to above.Roxy wrote:What sadd times we live when kids do not know how to spell John LennonEpignosis wrote:"Give Peace a Chance" by Jon Lennon sucks. Thank goodness for "Your Move."![]()

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Alright. I need a few minutes to think this over. But I think I know who I am voting for. Just need to digest my thoughts.
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So MP, 27 hours after the Day One poll went up, I discussed all kinds of other suspicions besides Made.
Who do you suspect....besides me? It's been 27 hours, surely you have had time to come up with genuine suspicions
And yet another fun night of drama free fun
Linki~ This seems like standard issue BWT to me.
Who do you suspect....besides me? It's been 27 hours, surely you have had time to come up with genuine suspicions

And yet another fun night of drama free fun

Linki~ This seems like standard issue BWT to me.
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And just for that, here's John Anderson:
I and I like this too.
I and I like this too.
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Made didn't answer my question, so I'll ask BWT.
BWT, are you on a team with Made? I asked him and he didn't say no. A lot like the Bagpipe Who Didn't Say No.
BWT, are you on a team with Made? I asked him and he didn't say no. A lot like the Bagpipe Who Didn't Say No.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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talking bagpipes? I am intrigued.
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sorry, just figured it was the kind i could just brush offthellama73 wrote:Made didn't answer my question, so I'll ask BWT.
BWT, are you on a team with Made? I asked him and he didn't say no. A lot like the Bagpipe Who Didn't Say No.
I am not on BWT's team.
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[quote="S~V~S"]talking bagpipes? I am intrigued.[/quote]
THE BAGPIPE WHO DIDN'T SAY NO
It was nine o'clock at midnight at a quarter after three
When a turtle met a bagpipe on the shoreside by the sea,
And the turtle said, "My dearie,
May I sit with you? I'm weary."
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "I have walked this lonely shore,
I have talked to waves and pebbles--but I've never loved before.
Will you marry me today, dear?
Is it 'No' you're going to say dear?"
But the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to his darling, "Please excuse me if I stare,
But you have the plaidest skin, dear,
And you have the strangest hair.
If I begged you pretty please, love,
Could I give you just one squeeze, love?"
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Ah, you love me. Then confess!
Let me whisper in your dainty ear and hold you to my chest."
And he cuddled her and teased her
And so lovingly he squeezed her.
And the bagpipe said, "Aaooga."
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Did you honk or bray or neigh?
For 'Aaooga' when your kissed is such a heartless thing to say.
Is it that I have offended?
Is it that our love is ended?"
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Shall i leave you, darling wife?
Shall i waddle off to Woedom? Shall i crawl out of your life?
Shall I move, depart and go, dear--
Oh, I beg you tell me 'No' dear!"
But the bagpipe didn't say no.
So the turtle crept off crying and he ne'er came back no more,
And he left the bagpipe lying on that smooth and sandy shore.
And some night when tide is low there,
Just walk up and say, "Hello, there,"
And politely ask the bagpipe if this story's really so.
I assure you, darling children, the bagpipe won't say "No.”
THE BAGPIPE WHO DIDN'T SAY NO
It was nine o'clock at midnight at a quarter after three
When a turtle met a bagpipe on the shoreside by the sea,
And the turtle said, "My dearie,
May I sit with you? I'm weary."
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "I have walked this lonely shore,
I have talked to waves and pebbles--but I've never loved before.
Will you marry me today, dear?
Is it 'No' you're going to say dear?"
But the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to his darling, "Please excuse me if I stare,
But you have the plaidest skin, dear,
And you have the strangest hair.
If I begged you pretty please, love,
Could I give you just one squeeze, love?"
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Ah, you love me. Then confess!
Let me whisper in your dainty ear and hold you to my chest."
And he cuddled her and teased her
And so lovingly he squeezed her.
And the bagpipe said, "Aaooga."
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Did you honk or bray or neigh?
For 'Aaooga' when your kissed is such a heartless thing to say.
Is it that I have offended?
Is it that our love is ended?"
And the bagpipe didn't say no.
Said the turtle to the bagpipe, "Shall i leave you, darling wife?
Shall i waddle off to Woedom? Shall i crawl out of your life?
Shall I move, depart and go, dear--
Oh, I beg you tell me 'No' dear!"
But the bagpipe didn't say no.
So the turtle crept off crying and he ne'er came back no more,
And he left the bagpipe lying on that smooth and sandy shore.
And some night when tide is low there,
Just walk up and say, "Hello, there,"
And politely ask the bagpipe if this story's really so.
I assure you, darling children, the bagpipe won't say "No.”
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Whose team are you on, then? Who do you think might be on BWT's team?Made wrote:sorry, just figured it was the kind i could just brush offthellama73 wrote:Made didn't answer my question, so I'll ask BWT.
BWT, are you on a team with Made? I asked him and he didn't say no. A lot like the Bagpipe Who Didn't Say No.
I am not on BWT's team.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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If he's a civvie, then technically yes.thellama73 wrote:Made didn't answer my question, so I'll ask BWT.
BWT, are you on a team with Made? I asked him and he didn't say no. A lot like the Bagpipe Who Didn't Say No.
Linki: That was quite clever.
Linki2: So he's saying he's not on my team? Wat.
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Since Made said "I'm not on BWT's team" that means he is either a civvie and thinks BWT is bad, or he is a baddie and knows BWT is not on his team.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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You're completely correct. I just started college on monday and I didn't expect this to start until misfits was over.S~V~S wrote:Dana I am confused by her; she seems to be operating on an rl level more than a game level
Llama, is there anything you'd like to know? Or just generally more posting? Now that I'm caught up, I'm going to try super hard not to fall behind again.Made wrote:I'm not sure yet on her either. like not the suspicious not sure, just no clue yet.thellama73 wrote:I am intrigued by Dana. I agree with SVS's assessment. Her behavior seems strange to me. Not necessarily suspicious, but strange. Possibly New Person Syndrome, where I can't read her. But she intrigues me and I want to hear more from her.
Made, I feel like already knowing you before is a disadvantage since I want to think you're good so if you're actually bad I would probably trust you. Same for Enrique.
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Are you on BWT's team? Who else is on BWT's team? What is your opinion on moustaches?Dana wrote: Llama, is there anything you'd like to know?
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I don't want to live in that universe.
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Good Night Thread 

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No, I am not. Are we sure BWT is definitely on a team? Are the good guys one big team? Moustaches aren't too bad. Yours is super cool though. Did you make it yourself?thellama73 wrote:Are you on BWT's team? Who else is on BWT's team? What is your opinion on moustaches?Dana wrote: Llama, is there anything you'd like to know?
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Yes, it grows out of my face.Dana wrote:No, I am not. Are we sure BWT is definitely on a team? Are the good guys one big team? Moustaches aren't too bad. Yours is super cool though. Did you make it yourself?thellama73 wrote:Are you on BWT's team? Who else is on BWT's team? What is your opinion on moustaches?Dana wrote: Llama, is there anything you'd like to know?
I am using the phrase "BWT's Team" because Made used it, and I assume he knows something he's not telling.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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I kind of meant did you make your picture thing?thellama73 wrote:Yes, it grows out of my face.Dana wrote:No, I am not. Are we sure BWT is definitely on a team? Are the good guys one big team? Moustaches aren't too bad. Yours is super cool though. Did you make it yourself?thellama73 wrote:Are you on BWT's team? Who else is on BWT's team? What is your opinion on moustaches?Dana wrote: Llama, is there anything you'd like to know?
I am using the phrase "BWT's Team" because Made used it, and I assume he knows something he's not telling.
Did someone imply Made and BWT were teammates or did he say it all by himself?
If BTW is a good guy and Made is a good guy then technically we are all on BTW's Team, I think.
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Said this in a public IRC Channel then realized it's totally BTSC as there are others in the channel also playing... my bad
<Jeremiah> hey Hotkeys
<Hotkeys>(none player) hi
<Jeremiah> wanna sub for me in a game of mafia?
<Jeremiah> ....if i live.....
I'll say this, Juliet hasn't posted much, so i want to hear from her. Right now she seems like the most solid lead
as for reeds on all others
Mp- off my radar, super hard. No clue what he's doing
SVS- in my head( and i guess now outloud) i'm weighing the possiblity that Llama and SVS are teammates on a none civvie team as SVS defended Llama, then agreed that dropping this arguement in more concrete leads was more logical (which she said before she agreed with llama that what i was saying was sus.
llama- see above. I don't think he lied. probably just memory, he acknowled the possiblity of doubt early on so i want to let it slide
Spacedasiy- Doesn't exist
BWT- Basically, they were there during the game, and as it has been pointed out, contributed during the challenge, destroying any points/objections i'd have against him
Long Con- Doesn't exist
Lizzy- doesn't exist
MR- Exist, no read
Canuck- her sense of humor is hard to get a concrete reliable read on. Maybe the no solid Made v Llama arguement applies to her?
Dana- since she knows how i attmepted to read her last game, I set new qualification for what in my head would be considered civvie or otherwise. Hf with D
That's all I got. Going to do my homework for real this time....
<Jeremiah> hey Hotkeys
<Hotkeys>(none player) hi
<Jeremiah> wanna sub for me in a game of mafia?
<Jeremiah> ....if i live.....
I'll say this, Juliet hasn't posted much, so i want to hear from her. Right now she seems like the most solid lead
as for reeds on all others
Mp- off my radar, super hard. No clue what he's doing
SVS- in my head( and i guess now outloud) i'm weighing the possiblity that Llama and SVS are teammates on a none civvie team as SVS defended Llama, then agreed that dropping this arguement in more concrete leads was more logical (which she said before she agreed with llama that what i was saying was sus.
llama- see above. I don't think he lied. probably just memory, he acknowled the possiblity of doubt early on so i want to let it slide
Spacedasiy- Doesn't exist
BWT- Basically, they were there during the game, and as it has been pointed out, contributed during the challenge, destroying any points/objections i'd have against him
Long Con- Doesn't exist
Lizzy- doesn't exist
MR- Exist, no read
Canuck- her sense of humor is hard to get a concrete reliable read on. Maybe the no solid Made v Llama arguement applies to her?
Dana- since she knows how i attmepted to read her last game, I set new qualification for what in my head would be considered civvie or otherwise. Hf with D

That's all I got. Going to do my homework for real this time....
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Alright. So I just accidentally deleted my last post. So this one is going to be much shorter.
I am not voting for anyone in the Made/llama/Enrique triangle. I think that is such a clusterf**k and I'm running in 5000 circles with it. So until that settles down a bit, I will not be looking in that direction.
I will, however, go ahead and vote for MP. I feel like he's contributing without saying a whole lot, and sticking to the shadows some. Plus I don't feel comfortable with the way he gunned for SVS (who I'm feeling fairly confident about so far, which says something this early given I usually feel like I can't read her well at all).
I think looking at the Made/llama/Enrique love/hate triangle is not the way to go for this lynch. I think it's a bunch of civs at this point, arguing over something that we can't prove and no longer exists. I would encourage others to look elsewhere for this lynch.
Votes MP
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I am not voting for anyone in the Made/llama/Enrique triangle. I think that is such a clusterf**k and I'm running in 5000 circles with it. So until that settles down a bit, I will not be looking in that direction.
I will, however, go ahead and vote for MP. I feel like he's contributing without saying a whole lot, and sticking to the shadows some. Plus I don't feel comfortable with the way he gunned for SVS (who I'm feeling fairly confident about so far, which says something this early given I usually feel like I can't read her well at all).
I think looking at the Made/llama/Enrique love/hate triangle is not the way to go for this lynch. I think it's a bunch of civs at this point, arguing over something that we can't prove and no longer exists. I would encourage others to look elsewhere for this lynch.
Votes MP
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Made said he was "throwing BWT under the bus" a phrase usually reserved for teammates. I asked him if he was on a team with BWT and he said "I am not on BWT's team" which implies that BWT has a team.Dana wrote: Did someone imply Made and BWT were teammates or did he say it all by himself?
If BTW is a good guy and Made is a good guy then technically we are all on BTW's Team, I think.
Regarding your second point, if the civvies are a team, then Made implied that either BWT or himself is not civ when he said "I am not on BWT's team."
You see?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Dana, for all intent and purposes, read llama like you would read things hotkeys would say...thellama73 wrote:Made said he was "throwing BWT under the bus" a phrase usually reserved for teammates. I asked him if he was on a team with BWT and he said "I am not on BWT's team" which implies that BWT has a team.Dana wrote: Did someone imply Made and BWT were teammates or did he say it all by himself?
If BTW is a good guy and Made is a good guy then technically we are all on BTW's Team, I think.
Regarding your second point, if the civvies are a team, then Made implied that either BWT or himself is not civ when he said "I am not on BWT's team."
You see?
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No, don't do that, Dana.Made wrote:Dana, for all intent and purposes, read llama like you would read things hotkeys would say...thellama73 wrote:Made said he was "throwing BWT under the bus" a phrase usually reserved for teammates. I asked him if he was on a team with BWT and he said "I am not on BWT's team" which implies that BWT has a team.Dana wrote: Did someone imply Made and BWT were teammates or did he say it all by himself?
If BTW is a good guy and Made is a good guy then technically we are all on BTW's Team, I think.
Regarding your second point, if the civvies are a team, then Made implied that either BWT or himself is not civ when he said "I am not on BWT's team."
You see?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Ugh. Ok, I actually was reading some of this last night, but I was kind of peeved and I figured it would be better to bite my tongue, so I did not comment at that time. I just now finished reading all twenty something pages...
My thoughts are these...
Made: Llama's point about Made seemed to me to be not that he had information about the other chat so much as his subsequent comments seemed like a slap dash attempt to not look like a Baddie. I find this to be a good starting point for a suspicion. Then add the fact he seems to have compounded the situation with some lies or perhaps some confusion seems even more suspect. Possibly bad.
Llama: Is obviously baiting Made now, among any others willing to fall into his games. I find him aggressive, but not abnormally so for Llama. I do think though, that the fact the other chat DID have the script to undermine this case, if only slightly. I also think that it is not out of character for llama to have not mentioned he DID say something to Made in the chat, just not at the point in the conversation Made was implying. I don't think this was a Baddie attempt to take down Made. What possible Baddie motive could there be to stick your neck out like that. Especially when his plot would likely have to involved Juliets too, it doesn't seem worth two Baddie lives to take down one civ with an unknown role. I think he is Civ.
Juliets: see above, I don't think she is bad either. Though it is early yet and my opinion coud change.
Enrique: I think he is civ as well, I think he just got worked up over llama going after Made, who is a friend of his unless I am mistaken? Llama tends to have that effect on people, it's part of his undefinable charm... Or something.
SVS: Honestly would have to read over her stuff again to give any opinion whatsoever. I didn't see anything that stood out. TBD, the next person has me leaning civ on her.
MP: I love you, but I think you are bad. Your posts have been too full of fishing for other opinions. You are too wishy washy. I feel like you are looking for a good case to stick too, and this SVS thing honestly reads like weird reasoning to me. Especially given how you have been pretty vocal in the past about how you know how bad you are at reading her and how you can get such tunnel vision about her. I just am not feeling your behavior this game at all. In fact, I am feeling so unsettled by it that I am willing to vote for you. No offense, but I just feel it in my gut you are bad.
*votes*
Linki @ Made: I do exist, I just have a very busy life and you all made it very difficult to catch up.
Linki @ BWT, guess I'm not the only one who is not feeling like Alex is trustworthy this go round!
My thoughts are these...
Made: Llama's point about Made seemed to me to be not that he had information about the other chat so much as his subsequent comments seemed like a slap dash attempt to not look like a Baddie. I find this to be a good starting point for a suspicion. Then add the fact he seems to have compounded the situation with some lies or perhaps some confusion seems even more suspect. Possibly bad.
Llama: Is obviously baiting Made now, among any others willing to fall into his games. I find him aggressive, but not abnormally so for Llama. I do think though, that the fact the other chat DID have the script to undermine this case, if only slightly. I also think that it is not out of character for llama to have not mentioned he DID say something to Made in the chat, just not at the point in the conversation Made was implying. I don't think this was a Baddie attempt to take down Made. What possible Baddie motive could there be to stick your neck out like that. Especially when his plot would likely have to involved Juliets too, it doesn't seem worth two Baddie lives to take down one civ with an unknown role. I think he is Civ.
Juliets: see above, I don't think she is bad either. Though it is early yet and my opinion coud change.
Enrique: I think he is civ as well, I think he just got worked up over llama going after Made, who is a friend of his unless I am mistaken? Llama tends to have that effect on people, it's part of his undefinable charm... Or something.

SVS: Honestly would have to read over her stuff again to give any opinion whatsoever. I didn't see anything that stood out. TBD, the next person has me leaning civ on her.
MP: I love you, but I think you are bad. Your posts have been too full of fishing for other opinions. You are too wishy washy. I feel like you are looking for a good case to stick too, and this SVS thing honestly reads like weird reasoning to me. Especially given how you have been pretty vocal in the past about how you know how bad you are at reading her and how you can get such tunnel vision about her. I just am not feeling your behavior this game at all. In fact, I am feeling so unsettled by it that I am willing to vote for you. No offense, but I just feel it in my gut you are bad.
*votes*
Linki @ Made: I do exist, I just have a very busy life and you all made it very difficult to catch up.
Linki @ BWT, guess I'm not the only one who is not feeling like Alex is trustworthy this go round!
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
I didn't know "throwing someone under the bus" was reserved for teammates. I had just assumed it's when you target someone with little reason or only to get the suspicion off of you?thellama73 wrote:Made said he was "throwing BWT under the bus" a phrase usually reserved for teammates. I asked him if he was on a team with BWT and he said "I am not on BWT's team" which implies that BWT has a team.Dana wrote: Did someone imply Made and BWT were teammates or did he say it all by himself?
If BTW is a good guy and Made is a good guy then technically we are all on BTW's Team, I think.
Regarding your second point, if the civvies are a team, then Made implied that either BWT or himself is not civ when he said "I am not on BWT's team."
You see?
Also if Made is good, he can't know for sure that BTW isn't on his team. I think you're reading too much into this. Unless you're being silly? I don't know you well enough to be able to tell..
Linki - Made, I don't see him as being much like Hotkeys. I'm trying to figure out what Llama's personality is like but it's very confusing.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
No, no you are not. MP is my number 2 suspicion after Made.Spacedaisy wrote: Linki @ BWT, guess I'm not the only one who is not feeling like Alex is trustworthy this go round!
Also, glad you are here now.

Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Who's Alex?
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The guitarist for Rush.Dana wrote:Who's Alex?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
First off, yes, a thousand times that.Spacedaisy wrote:
Linki @ Made: I do exist, I just have a very busy life and you all made it very difficult to catch up.
Linki @ BWT, guess I'm not the only one who is not feeling like Alex is trustworthy this go round!
As a side note, I know Enrique was making comments about wanting to hear more from me. Right now I'm dealing with my 2nd week of a new promotion to a management position. And I'm already in long work hours, during which I have zero time to check into this game at all. And given I'm already sitting in front of a computer for 6+ hours every day so far this week, you'll forgive me if I don't spend tons and tons of time reading up on mafia.
I'm sorry if that comes off as rude or harsh, but I've gotten comments like that several times in the last few games I've played, I've felt. And lately, I've been getting more and more frustrated with mafia with seemingly every game with the last few. It finally hit me tonight that that is why. I was very, VERY close to not playing this game and deciding taking a break was a better option. But I like Roxy and DP and know that the two of them co-hosting a game together would be oodles and oodles of fun. So I decided to go for it. But know that I put as much time and effort as I can mentally allow for mafia. I do genuinely enjoy it and want to keep playing. But I feel like it's just that one more comment of "You should be posting more" etc. that I got that made me want to scream out loud lol.
Alright. I'm getting of my soapbox now.
As to the second, great minds think alike!

Linki: Very true, llama.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Dana - He is MovingPictures07/Sockface/the owner of this site and maker of magical miracles. See what The Syndicate can do for you.Dana wrote:Who's Alex?
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
ThisbroadcastisnottransmittablewithouttheexpressedwrittenconsetofSockfaceIndustriespatentpending.Mongoose wrote:Dana - He is MovingPictures07/Sockface/the owner of this site and maker of magical miracles. See what The Syndicate can do for you.Dana wrote:Who's Alex?
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Witty, with a hint of troll. Occasionally caustic. I love jokes. I love to amuse myself. I find weird things very funny. I have a quiet intensity, and am prone to overenthusiasm and mild obsession. Generally very optimistic. Erudite, logical, analytical, but also creative. Easily irritated by people I find irritating. Passionate. Definitely a romantic (as opposed to a cynic or a realist). Literary, musical, and fond of films. Eclectic in taste and interests. Opinionated. Introverted. Moral, honest, and whatever the adjective version of integrity is. Integral? Skeptical of modernity and fads, but credulous in terms of the mystical. An anarchist who loves moustaches.Dana wrote:I'm trying to figure out what Llama's personality is like but it's very confusing.
linki: we love you, BWT, and hope you will stay.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Waaaaaaaaaait MP OWNS the site? Whoa. Why does no one tell me these things?!Mongoose wrote:Dana - He is MovingPictures07/Sockface/the owner of this site and maker of magical miracles. See what The Syndicate can do for you.Dana wrote:Who's Alex?
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
That's why we lynch him early in every game. So he doesn't get too big for his britches.Dana wrote:Waaaaaaaaaait MP OWNS the site? Whoa. Why does no one tell me these things?!Mongoose wrote:Dana - He is MovingPictures07/Sockface/the owner of this site and maker of magical miracles. See what The Syndicate can do for you.Dana wrote:Who's Alex?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
That's pretty accurate. You are also an unrelenting prankster. I wish you still did composing.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Oh, I'm definitely staying. I had just considered a break for this game is all. But I got my feelings off my chest, and feel a heck of a lot better now.thellama73 wrote:linki: we love you, BWT, and hope you will stay.
If I'm frustrated with mafia, I do best to either vent or walk away for a bit. And thankfully it's worked every time so far.
Linki: He's already too big for his britches. :P
Linki2: No comment on my clever response to you, Goosey?
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He really isn't mean though. I called him mean once and he was mad for like 2 weeks and brought it up for months and months afterward.
linki - I missed it, will look now!
linki - I missed it, will look now!
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
If it makes you feel better, I get frustrated with mafia almost every single game, which is why I end up calling people idiots and getting in trouble with hosts/mods/MP.birdwithteeth11 wrote: If I'm frustrated with mafia, I do best to either vent or walk away for a bit. And thankfully it's worked every time so far.
But I keep coming back for more. Glutton for punishment.

Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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This is actually surprisingly really helpful. Though I also feel like this is sort of a joke, maybe. What kind of people do you find irritating? Also so many big words, but you did say you were a writer, right? You should make this your bio on everywhere.thellama73 wrote:Witty, with a hint of troll. Occasionally caustic. I love jokes. I love to amuse myself. I find weird things very funny. I have a quiet intensity, and am prone to overenthusiasm and mild obsession. Generally very optimistic. Erudite, logical, analytical, but also creative. Easily irritated by people I find irritating. Passionate. Definitely a romantic (as opposed to a cynic or a realist). Literary, musical, and fond of films. Eclectic in taste and interests. Opinionated. Introverted. Moral, honest, and whatever the adjective version of integrity is. Integral? Skeptical of modernity and fads, but credulous in terms of the mystical. An anarchist who loves moustaches.Dana wrote:I'm trying to figure out what Llama's personality is like but it's very confusing.
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Re: Day 1 Monty Python and the Holy Grail
In mafia, I get irritated at people who can't follow logic (like A Person, who is utterly illogical and whom I've lynched as a civvie multiple times because of it, but I still love him). Sometimes I use game theory (I studied economics in grad school, and now I am realizing that this post sounds arrogant, so I apologize for that. It is not my intention.) to explain why a particular course of action is or isn't beneficial to the civilians, and it drives me nuts when people don't or won't understand the point.Dana wrote:What kind of people do you find irritating?
Also, people who misrepresent or misread what I write. 90% of my annoyance in the back and forth with Enrique was because of him misquoting/misrepresenting things and I said and me having to correct him. But I am done with that argument now. From now on I will be a happy, cheerful llama who doesn't take this game personally.

Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
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