The Syndicate

Canucklehead wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:So many avoidance votes!

It looks pretty normal for a day one lynch.

Sure, but this isn't really a Day 1 lynch.

Canucklehead wrote:TH: You still around? Who are you voting for?

S~V~S wrote:I was kinda freaked by how hard MM w

I think the snowstorm has eaten SVS mid-sentence!




:P

FZ. wrote:Why do you all start talking so late in the day? and when I need to go

llama, I saw your answer, thanks. I actually remember you playing like that in the first game we played together and you were a civ.

Right now, I'm still thinking of voting Vomp. First, because he's lowered his post number drastically since we started pushing for him. If he doesn't care if he's lynched like he says, why not continue just the way he did before?

Then, there's AP, which I agree, made a cop out vote. Especially at the time of the vote. Also I see no difference between not voting at all and voting yourself or randomizing. That said, I've seen him do it before.

The last points regarding MP have some merit, but I still think I'm seeing civ MP. Like TH, I can't put my finger on it, but it's the opposite. I can't vote for him feeling like that. I hope I'm not wrong.

Lastly, there's Dom, who focuses on one person (MP), just like he did in the Champions' game, and he was bad. I still think that between the two, he's more likely bad.

So it's between Dom and Vompatti, but Dom doesn't seem to have any votes, so I guess I'll be voting for Vomp. I have 5 more minutes before I need to go

Turnip Head wrote:So... Vomps voted for Dom on Day 1 in the Are You Being Served game too.

Strange puzzlings.

Turnip Head wrote:le sigh

Vompatti wrote:Would you believe me if I told you I don't think A Person is a baddie?

S~V~S wrote: No.

(I had to pull a few of the quotes out becasue I hit the embed limit).

MP always seems bad to me, and Dom seldom does, so my opinion there is pointless, and I need to see that play out more. I don't think LC or BR are suspicious at this point. I can see both sides of the Vomp situation, and I dislike putting all the eggs in one basket, and it seems that the only reason he is suspish is that he is being active? Again, I need to see more. I was thinking that AP is acting too much like normal for him to glean much from his self vote, BUT~

MM seems to be ignoring the reason one might vote for AP other than the fact of a self vote, the strategic reasons for voting for anyone other than BWT at the end of the lynch. He keeps saying that it is because of the fact that he made a self vote, when that is not the reason for the suspish as I understand it. MM is acting like he is on a crusade to defend self voters. Plus, having read back in his posts it seems like he is trying to find reasons to suspect people.

So I am going to also vote AP. MM is defending him too hard.

S~V~S wrote:We only missed CAH one night~ there are blocks, dropped PMs etc. I would be more convinced of that re BR when there is no CAH 2 nights in a row. Plus there have been 2 NKs right?

@Epi~ do powers go through on the night someone dies?

I voted MP because he is playing the level civ game I came to expect from MP. The past while, he has been playing the hyper game i associate with his bad self more often than not, even when civ. This game, the enforced slow down, perhaps, from having to wait for a less prolific person to post, has done him some good, I think. I can't speak for the others, and am not sure why you would expect me to. Just because someone gets a lot of positive votes does not mean they have baddie teammates backing them up.

And I think TH is silenced. Zeek, what time did you get your PM? I was wondering about one or two others being possibly silenced, but they made a post or so after the Night Post. So it is possible they also got late PMs, or did not check their inbox. There is not a pop up notification in the light theme.

thellama73 wrote:Mongoose is being super lame and tells me she can't update the results until after work, so it's gonna be a while, y'all.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Ricochet wrote:
Four other people voted for BWT because they saw it fit and did not invoke doing so despite hating to vote for someone who won't be able to defend himself (anymore). No hypocrisy there, I believe.

I don't know if llama is bad, but this seems like a weird reason to go after him. Why would he say that if he meant that in the case of BWT and then go and vote for him? So either, he meant it in regards to other people, like he claims, or he's a really silly baddie doing something like this

I'm willing to bet the former of the two. I think llama's post about lynching undefendable players and his vote for BWT are unrelated.

But I would like llama (and you) to explain why you want to lynch vomps today.

I haven't played a lot of games with Vompatti, but I think about 4-5. In one of them he was bad, and his behaviour was different than his other games. This one reminds me of it for a few reasons:
1. He joked about suspecting himself, which is what he did in that game?
2. He posts more serious game related posts
3. He's more involved.
Now, others can tell me they've seen him do 2 and 3 no matter what alignment, but if I keep letting people tell me this every time I have a suspicion, I don't see much point in playing the game

Can you list the games for us? Maybe someone else can do a read of them and analyze Vompatti's behaviour to see if they agree.

Does anyone else also think that this post from LC is just trying to set us up for a wild goose chase? Especially since he passed on the whole vomps' behavior anyway and voted AP?

No.

(I had to pull a few of the quotes out becasue I hit the embed limit).

MP always seems bad to me, and Dom seldom does, so my opinion there is pointless, and I need to see that play out more. I don't think LC or BR are suspicious at this point. I can see both sides of the Vomp situation, and I dislike putting all the eggs in one basket, and it seems that the only reason he is suspish is that he is being active? Again, I need to see more. I was thinking that AP is acting too much like normal for him to glean much from his self vote, BUT~

MM seems to be ignoring the reason one might vote for AP other than the fact of a self vote, the strategic reasons for voting for anyone other than BWT at the end of the lynch. He keeps saying that it is because of the fact that he made a self vote, when that is not the reason for the suspish as I understand it. MM is acting like he is on a crusade to defend self voters. Plus, having read back in his posts it seems like he is trying to find reasons to suspect people.

So I am going to also vote AP. MM is defending him too hard.

Turnip Head wrote:I find myself completely underwhelmed by Made's explanation for his vote.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Not sure what to make of Made's reasoning, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time he's done something crazy.

S~V~S wrote: No.

(I had to pull a few of the quotes out becasue I hit the embed limit).

MP always seems bad to me, and Dom seldom does, so my opinion there is pointless, and I need to see that play out more. I don't think LC or BR are suspicious at this point. I can see both sides of the Vomp situation, and I dislike putting all the eggs in one basket, and it seems that the only reason he is suspish is that he is being active? Again, I need to see more. I was thinking that AP is acting too much like normal for him to glean much from his self vote, BUT~

MM seems to be ignoring the reason one might vote for AP other than the fact of a self vote, the strategic reasons for voting for anyone other than BWT at the end of the lynch. He keeps saying that it is because of the fact that he made a self vote, when that is not the reason for the suspish as I understand it. MM is acting like he is on a crusade to defend self voters. Plus, having read back in his posts it seems like he is trying to find reasons to suspect people.

So I am going to also vote AP. MM is defending him too hard.

I'm confused because you seem to be contradicting yourself with what you said in Champions:

S~V~S wrote:We only missed CAH one night~ there are blocks, dropped PMs etc. I would be more convinced of that re BR when there is no CAH 2 nights in a row. Plus there have been 2 NKs right?

@Epi~ do powers go through on the night someone dies?

I voted MP because he is playing the level civ game I came to expect from MP. The past while, he has been playing the hyper game i associate with his bad self more often than not, even when civ. This game, the enforced slow down, perhaps, from having to wait for a less prolific person to post, has done him some good, I think. I can't speak for the others, and am not sure why you would expect me to. Just because someone gets a lot of positive votes does not mean they have baddie teammates backing them up.

And I think TH is silenced. Zeek, what time did you get your PM? I was wondering about one or two others being possibly silenced, but they made a post or so after the Night Post. So it is possible they also got late PMs, or did not check their inbox. There is not a pop up notification in the light theme.

Or am I misunderstanding something?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'm trying to defend the self-vote, not AP persay. But I guess my argument loses its ground the more players continue to self-vote. Regardless, I don't think AP would self-vote as a baddy for those reasons you offered. But in the end, you are voting him because I am defending him. Do you think I am bad? Why not vote me? Is there something about me "defending him too hard" that makes you think he is more bad than me? Certainly the bandwagon is appealing.

Yes I have been looking for things. None of the main topics of interest have pinged me, so I am trying to look elsewhere. I don't want to vote for llama, vomps, MP, or Dom. I would have considered a vote for Made for his odd vote, but I decided to wait. Bass pinged me, but apparently I was trying too hard there too. Roxy's vote today was a strange backpedal, but I didn't have time to look at it. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I'm trying to defend the self-vote, not AP persay. But I guess my argument loses its ground the more players continue to self-vote. Regardless, I don't think AP would self-vote as a baddy for those reasons you offered. But in the end, you are voting him because I am defending him. Do you think I am bad? Why not vote me? Is there something about me "defending him too hard" that makes you think he is more bad than me? Certainly the bandwagon is appealing.

Yes I have been looking for things. None of the main topics of interest have pinged me, so I am trying to look elsewhere. I don't want to vote for llama, vomps, MP, or Dom. I would have considered a vote for Made for his odd vote, but I decided to wait. Bass pinged me, but apparently I was trying too hard there too. Roxy's vote today was a strange backpedal, but I didn't have time to look at it. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

(once again reached the embed limit)

You said yourself that you have to stop defending your fellow shredders, did not reply to my reply to that, then voted for someone based on their vote for AP. You ignored the reasons people voted for him that were not simply becasue he self voted. This sounds like you were defending AP, not his self vote.

I am looking forward to your vigorous defense of Faraday

Linki, it was not an insinuation, it was a touch of incredulity on my part. I posted something that you replied to less than a day ago that clearly explains the difference between those two posts. I am not making insinuations, sorry if it came across snarky.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I haven't seen any of these.

Oh crap, I hadn't anticipated that. So sorry!

Mongoose wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I haven't seen any of these.

Oh crap, I hadn't anticipated that. So sorry!

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I haven't seen any of these.

Oh crap, I hadn't anticipated that. So sorry!

I'm a film fail.