The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:22 pm Guilo refusing to consider the seemer is just openwolfing

Absolutely the other way around. There’s just been way too much seemer talk and way too many votes on Guillo to open wolf in this scenario.

If you pulled this while being a consensus townread, that could be open wolfing but a wolf Guillo would not think this was a good plan.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:24 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:16 pm am i gonna have to spell it out

Please do.

well he did admit one lie


but obviously hes not admitting that chard was prob the seemer even after kza says they have mech info that implies he was

Drycha level rage

Wagonomics right now say vote Grogu but I’m not ready to actually make that call for another 20 pages.

I’m just saying like all the other wagons are questionable. Guillo for being obvious town and Epi for having voters Nutella and Eesooa.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:28 pm Folks, I get very little time to be in this thread. I need simple shit. Not Ooooh you're bad coz you're not getting it shit.

Simple.
Shit.

Spell it out or you're getting nothing out of me.

This reads townie imo

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:29 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:27 pm Daisy mac guillo epi

game winning poe

not gonna say your reads are trash but they reek.

Daisy’s tone here and in previous 2-3 posts from her (sorry if I’m misgendering. It doesn’t show on mobile without clicking the profile and I’m not checking mid post) feel very townie as well.

Here’s a fun idea that everyone is gonna hate but that’s okay because I hate it too.

We chop Grogu and they flip Spidey Noir like 90% of the time. Cause claiming cop as the wolf seemer is just a really obvious play. It means you’re likely to yeet the real cop and nobody knows for sure the real cop results.

Which means if we yeet Grogu, we go into probably mylo or whatever having essentially gone no yeet for two days in a row.

Yeeting Grogu ensures we went 1 and 1 over the last two days. Fwiw. Obviously, it’s a good move if he’s your top suspect.

What if we yeet based on who is a likely Grogu or Chard partner? Like if Grogu’s most likely wolf partner is a wolf, then Grogu is too and we can trust Chard’s checks. And the same in reverse if Chard’s likeliest partner is a wolf. And then flip it again if they’re town.

The obvious problem with this strategy is that if Chard is town and we yeet his “most likely partner” and they also flip town, we might just lose. And we may be just wrong on the “most likely partner” idea. And if would feel bad to let Grogu go if he’s a wolf.

Idk if it’s a good idea. I’d be surprised if nobody had brought it up in the last 20 pages. Something to consider if we’re truly a hung jury on Grogu. (Course, we’d then be a hung jury on which likely partner to yeet hee ho.)

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:31 pm I'm not gonna believe that with the way chard was playing they're not the seemer until we lynch at least two people in the PoE I have and they both flip town (unlikely)

This is unreasonable given how late we are in the game. Also, Esooa’s poe kinda sucks. Like it’s easy to read this as Grogu’s partner standing their ground to never vote there.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:33 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:31 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:30 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:28 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:26 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:22 pm Guilo refusing to consider the seemer is just openwolfing

How do we know there is a seemer here? who started that? I've looked into the roles and I haven't seen a Seemer there?

Oh come the fuck on

Don't come the fuck on-me

You guys are tinfoiling and yeeting townies left and right based on mere speculation or you have been openwolfing all along. Materialize the evidence that Chard was the seemer because to me, he was the actual cop!

nobody's gonna listen to random theories that don't have basis in the game rn. You're gonna need better than that to convince people you're town lol

Random theories? more random than calling two flipped town the seemer? HUH? HUH!!!! G-MAN AND NOW CHARD! HUUUUUUUH!

Lol town.

I don’t understand how anyone suspects Guillotine. “Hero deep maybe he’s going for the ole derp clear + open wolfing combo.” Pppffffff.

Stupid phone autocorrecting “herp derp.”

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:34 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:32 pm Until I hear otherwise, I am going to assume Chardonnay was genuine.

If you can't produce evidence otherwise, I'm not listening to you. That includes you, nutella.

anti town

Shitty excuse to suspect Epi. Scummy.

Esooa is like “most likely Grogu partner” right?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:37 pm mac saying night kill will tell us if grogu is real us scummy af btw. Mafia has clear motivation to leave grogu alive along with the ability to manipulate his results to be unreliable. The fact Mac says this is very scummy imo

More shading of townies that doesn’t look genuine.

I’m about ready to just yeet Esooa but you know, 20 pages.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:43 pm DaisyCloud good

Guillotine ogod

Me good

KZA bad

nutella bad

Esooa bad

There.

Close enough. Epi’s town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:44 pm epis beligerence feels more like an excuse to avoid solving than anything

Yuck yuck yuck yuck

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:45 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:44 pm epis beligerence feels more like an excuse to avoid solving than anything

yeah

Even worse!

Nutella knows Epi. God, this reads so dishonest.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:45 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:44 pm epis beligerence feels more like an excuse to avoid solving than anything

yeah

Even worse!

Nutella knows Epi. God, this reads so dishonest.

@MacDougall talk to me, buddy.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:50 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:50 pm epi you've done more work spell checking than finding mafia so far

sorry I find that scummy *shrug*

No you don't.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:55 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:53 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:52 pm esooa either misguided town and game throwing or wolf.

For scumreading you? A little dramatic

no. for being afk all game

one day that was quick hammered

you don't know what you're talking about. Fix it or you're a lying wolf

Reads dishonest.

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:05 pm Ok, is this real life?
I have a guilty on Guillotine. Finally, even though it was obvious by his TMI last night and he’s shade.
Why I’m alive? Wolves had 2 kills but let me live? Did they believe Chardonnay? LMAO.

Lmao.

Okay it’s just 2-3 of Grogu/Essoa/Nutella.

Grogu is alive because he’s either a wolf or wolves expect us to chop him today. It doesn’t mean anything.

But the guilty on Guillo is an obvious lie and tells me Gru is a wolf and wolves likely only need one misyeet to win, here.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:04 pm epi, i understand you're not reading and may have missed it

but once you're told there's reason to believe chard was the seemer you immediately go "no that's dumb" instead of even considering it


surely you see the problem with that

yeh

people literally tell him what is happening then he ignores it then complains people aren't helping him with the game he hasn't read

awwwwoooooo

This is arguably a good look for Nutella.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:37 pm mac saying night kill will tell us if grogu is real us scummy af btw. Mafia has clear motivation to leave grogu alive along with the ability to manipulate his results to be unreliable. The fact Mac says this is very scummy imo

The mafia would never leave a real cop alive, he would have been first in the soup. You are an obvious Grogu teammate.

they literally can manipulate his info. Why would they not leave him alive to get mislynches instead? Killing him also confirms the worlds. We're not lynching me. We're not lynching grogu. If we lynch into chardonnay!scum world and miss I'll reconsider

Yeah, this is just mylo already.

Two wolves begging for one misyeet.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:11 am

this be what grogu is doing.

That is how I've been feeling about this town.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm

Spoiler: show

if epi is town esooa is wolf

bad read lol, I don't even think epi is most likely scum in my PoE that goes to guillo then mac is there not anti aligned

If there are 3 wolves (I’m not looking at the number of players left lalalala) the third one miiiiight not be Nutella and I have no idea who else it would be.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:13 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:55 pm Why is Guillotine the lynch over Grogu right now?

who cares, they're both outed mafia

good thing you didn't want him lynched over apparently town chardonnay then

it must be weird to only ever be capable of being townread for being so aggressively wrong that you spew yourself clear

Vicious

PS stop roleclaiming. How many extra kills we gonna give the wolves eh?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:25 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:20 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:53 pm @Esooa Thunderdome with me! I'm so convinced you are a wolf here that I'm gonna make a cozy jacket with your and Grogu's pelt.

You are very confident for someone that is dying tonight. Do you have a way to prevent your death?

Why am I dying tonight? if You thought I was the wolf, you'd think I'd die to the yeet! lol

Gottem

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:34 pm btw if grogu is possibly mafia I'd rather yeet into someone like nutella for being his partner in that case and to avoid seemer bullshit

but I think nutella is town so I'm not doing that

Ooooooooo and there it is.

Fucking @nutella get your head in the game you honorary wolf you.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:40 pm I targeted Chardonnay the night he claimed he got a red on Grogu. I targeted Grogu yesterday and he only comes back with 1 check.

Are they both Mafia?

I’m the real Spidey Noir!

Red checks on Gru, Esooa and maybe Nutella!

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:05 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:56 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:52 pm I didn't get any message about two actions but I also don't have a role that it would function on either

How would that work? I didn’t check in the thread until just now when thread was opened. If I had a second check after thread is open and I see who died isn’t that broken?

you'd get told you could double act and then you'd get two checks

@Grogu presumably you'd be told via a PM from LongCon.

I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 am This is insanity. Can you even fake what Grogu just said?

What? Lie on the internet about having sex? Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s illegal.

You flat out him in a position where he had to explain why his claimed action didn’t actually happen. “I forgot to submit my action and was embarrassed to say so” is like not that out there of a lie to tell.

LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:31 am

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:29 pm yeah let's just kill Guilo since he's claimed 400 roles and pretends the seemer just doesn't exist

[VOTE: Guilo] aubergine

endorse this

honestly not sure what to make of the grogu v daisy stuff. both have felt very believable at times

guillo has been pretty consistently wolfy the whole way through

daisy's emotions regarding it have been more like what i would expect a town who really believes grogu is an outed wolf to act like

guillo has been very cocky about the whole thing

No you wish I was a wolf so you'd get easy towncred points. I'm not cocky, if you are pro-town, you guys are, you, Nutella and Esooa, even KZA at some point but at least he came to his senses about Daisy.

The way I read this game is that people like Nutella and Esooa are scared that I'm right because if they are town, then they'd have to eat their own words such as "If Guillo is town, he is negative utility" or "He needs to start playing town if he is town" or "Guillo has been cocky the whole game".

Here is what I think. If Nutella and Esooa are town, they are the negative utilities OR they are partners and are openwolfing right now and they are Grogu's partners.

Nutella is heavily spewed wolf by BoKnows and Michelle. I already cased this but town will choose to die first than yeeting Nutella here, I don't know why. Charisma? META? Seniority? Clout? Maybe, I've seen it in every site. People rather yeet the noob with great reads than the scummy forum regular. This is a fact!

Esooa made efforts to save Grogu yesterday leading to Chard's mischop, she cased and pushed Chard's town clear (Daisy) today and continues to do so. We almost yeeted Daisy today if it wasn't because KZA came clean about the roleblock.
If you read Esooa today, she is "scum" reading and witch hunting Chard's legacy and everyone that was spewed town as a result of his death.

These two gotta be their partners and they are both on Epi who is correctly siding with town here. If these two are so openwolfing now is because they are close to winning. And you LordQuas pushing on me means it is most likely that you are a survivor that wins with either alignment and you see that your chances of winning are higher with scum now.

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:22 am

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 am

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 am This is insanity. Can you even fake what Grogu just said?

which part?

he made up a fake check then said he didn't even submit one because he had a date? like what? who comes up with that?

I didn’t come up with it. It is what happened, I have pictures to prove it. I was the outed cop, everyone said there was no protection. I was supposed to be dead today. Would you had submitted? Guillo is super wolfy since yesterday.

Posting a homemade pornography to prove you’re town.

Wowee.

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:24 am

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:20 am I mean it's probably more likely he's just Mafia I have no idea why he would default to a fake red if he actually didn't submit one

I wanted to see guillo reaction and I felt dumb being alive without one and panicked. I was always planning to let you all know later today.

Player is tunneling me so I fake a red on them and they laugh and call me outted no matter their alignment.

#reactiontest

LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:46 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:47 pm of not him then 112. like odk how or why we keep the known wolf alive. them just slanking and doing 0 except to vote where ever it is convient.

if you kill 112 i am forced to wolfside as an unkillable player

would advise against that in this gamestate

You are already wolfsiding sthp!

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:26 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:22 am

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 am

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 am This is insanity. Can you even fake what Grogu just said?

which part?

he made up a fake check then said he didn't even submit one because he had a date? like what? who comes up with that?

I didn’t come up with it. It is what happened, I have pictures to prove it. I was the outed cop, everyone said there was no protection. I was supposed to be dead today. Would you had submitted? Guillo is super wolfy since yesterday.

no protection?

Baby Yoda!

LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:50 am man this role is great

i just get to post random takes on things without worrying about looking towny and if town loses i still win

I hate this post

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:32 am anyway i still believe grogu lol

Stop it you wolf siding snuffaluffagus.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:59 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:56 am Just got word. My fears happened and I feel like shit.
KZA is town, I am only saying this as a fact but not mechanically. I do not have a check on her.
I did receive a message telling me I had two shots of my role.
This was shortly after thread close and I was long gone.
I have asked to use it tonight or now since I wasn’t aware.
This has been denied. I go hide in a dark hole with my girl now. I have lost this game for us, I should have never had this role. Please don’t flame me, I was way over my head and I’m getting nasty looks already. I’m going to enjoy my last night with wifey, good night all. I am very sorry

You are utterly full of shit.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:00 am

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:56 am Just got word. My fears happened and I feel like shit.
KZA is town, I am only saying this as a fact but not mechanically. I do not have a check on her.
I did receive a message telling me I had two shots of my role.
This was shortly after thread close and I was long gone.
I have asked to use it tonight or now since I wasn’t aware.
This has been denied. I go hide in a dark hole with my girl now. I have lost this game for us, I should have never had this role. Please don’t flame me, I was way over my head and I’m getting nasty looks already. I’m going to enjoy my last night with wifey, good night all. I am very sorry

I believe this lol

Actual footage of Gorgu and Nutella irl.

Jack I would be down to yeet Esooa if it wasn't because there is still a small doubt about her being a wolf and I'm scared I'm wrong and we lose.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:26 am im not even trying to understand mech stuff anymore

This is the way.

Fuck it! We’ll do it mountainous!

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:13 pm Jack I would be down to yeet Esooa if it wasn't because there is still a small doubt about her being a wolf and I'm scared I'm wrong and we lose.

We’re on the same page.

Games with soupkill when Jack is a wolf: Every misyeet claims, preventing their death. No other claims so soup doesn’t even give an extra kill.

Games with soupkill when Jack is town: Let’s all just claim, why not?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:36 am wait hang on

if kza is spiderpunk that means jack is outed mafia?

Wowee.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:42 am idk who to vote

is mac wolfing me

is esooa

fuck

You do see Esooa blatantly trying to manipulate you, right?

jack, if you're town here *you* are "honorary wolf"

tho if there's 3 left as esooa thinks it's prob just you with epi and guillo lol

if not, at least try to see it my way lol. read all my posts to epi last night.

plus the size of the grogu wagon just shows me it's more likely what wolves want

try to be charitable in reading what grogu said as true and solve from that assumption

read what I said to epi about him not realizing roles etc

if you're a wolf just continue making it obvious by not considering the other possibilities