The Syndicate

Nerolunar wrote:Just when we thought we could lock down some variables. What do we do? If we get to live another day Im inclined to believe Elohcin is still a valid lynch option, if just to decrease the number of cops.

This feels like you are throwing a teammate under the bus as she is uninvolved, and if she does flip bad, you get to say you called it. The WiFom pre-defense. This just reads that way to me.

S~V~S wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:Just when we thought we could lock down some variables. What do we do? If we get to live another day Im inclined to believe Elohcin is still a valid lynch option, if just to decrease the number of cops.

This feels like you are throwing a teammate under the bus as she is uninvolved, and if she does flip bad, you get to say you called it. The WiFom pre-defense. This just reads that way to me.

Hmm yeah I understand. I do think she is most likely to be bad though, considering the circumstances.

Why are we sussing Eloh? Sorry if I missed it.

Turnip Head wrote:Well, it didn't benefit us for me to say this earlier, but I am aware of at least one possibility for both non-Don civilians and cops alike to have access to a lynch pardon.

Based on all information available to me, based on voting records and revealed roles etc, I find it nearly impossible that Dom is a Don. He could be a civvie that gained access to a lynch pardon, but I also find this unlikely due to this post:

Dom wrote:I don't. Not if we cannot both survive for civvie reasons.

If Dom survived for a civvie reason, he would know that it is possible for at least one other civvie to survive for the same reason that he did.

In conclusion, I think we should lynch Dom tomorrow.

Not if you don't want to lose, you shouldn't.

Turnip Head wrote:Why are we sussing Eloh? Sorry if I missed it.

509378 had a theory that that encompassed many posts saying that Eloh & Dom were the surest baddies.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Epi
Dom
Eloh
chaindeath

That is what I think the scum team looks like. We've probably already lost, but whatever.

And a list like that is why.

Punch some holes in mine.

I can't even fathom you being good at this point. Dom is not a Don and I don't think he's a Stool Pigeon (unsubstantiated), so I think he was saved by some scum mechanic. That leaves Elohcin, chaindeath, Nerolunar, and Soneji. Soneji and Nerolunar strike me as more believable townies than Eloh and chaindeath.[/quote]

Why?

The content and tone of their posts. I can look at them and sense two townies who are honestly trying to figure out what's going on in here. I don't get that much of a sense from you, and I get no such sense at all from Elohcin.

I would respond to Epi's post from last night in full but I do not have time to that today. Perhaps tomorrow, if there is one. Game-wise, I mean. I'm sure the planet will keep on spinning for at least 24 more hours.

But the short version is I do not find any of his actions in the late stages of this game to be believable town Epi behavior. He doesn't seem to be focusing on points that I'd expect him to focus on and seems to be pushing an agenda that is at odds with everyone and everything else in this thread. I've had doubts about him all game long but held back on them because very few people have agreed with me but now we're at Night 10 and he's still here and looks worse than ever and we've had no success lynching baddies all game long. Something has to give.

I agree with S~V~S about Nero. Soneji has been more outwardly townish, but it's hard to see what cop team is left if he's town. It'd be worth examining how good of team mates Epi and Soneji would be.

I'm not doing it.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I agree with S~V~S about Nero. Soneji has been more outwardly townish, but it's hard to see what cop team is left if he's town. It'd be worth examining how good of team mates Epi and Soneji would be.

I'm not doing it.

If you think Im bad, do you also think Chaindeath is town then?

No. I was wrong.

I could see an Epi, Nero, chain, Eloh team too. At this point it's not hard to see the entire Epi/Nero exchange of Day 10 as cooked both ways.

I don't know what TH might be talking about re: Dom but sure whatever. My vote is wherever the pitchforks want it.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I don't know what TH might be talking about re: Dom but sure whatever. My vote is wherever the pitchforks want it.

How do you feel about lynching Elohcin? Because thats where Im at, at the moment.

Nobody is easier lynch bait than her if she's town.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Nobody is easier lynch bait than her if she's town.

Thats true. I doubt she is though.

Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Sloonei wrote:Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Yes.

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Yes.

Why?

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Yes.

Why?

I'm not a cop.

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Yes.

Why?

I'm not a cop.

What about in this game right now?

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Epi remains my top priority. Does anyone object to that?

Yes.

Why?

I'm not a cop.

What about in this game right now?

I'm not a cop in this game right now.

Note: Everyone who agrees that both Nero and Eloh are cops should probably not lynch Eloh. Epi's prior suggestion that they're prioritizing stronger cop roles for survival is probably applicable here. If Nero wants to do it, I don't. She's probably a cop, but one of the less potent cops. You may disagree, and I've been wrong about everything barring a seemer moral victory, so tell me whatcha think.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Note: Everyone who agrees that both Nero and Eloh are cops should probably not lynch Eloh. Epi's prior suggestion that they're prioritizing stronger cop roles for survival is probably applicable here. If Nero wants to do it, I don't. She's probably a cop, but one of the less potent cops. You may disagree, and I've been wrong about everything barring a seemer moral victory, so tell me whatcha think.

Thoughts on Epi?

Sloonei wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Note: Everyone who agrees that both Nero and Eloh are cops should probably not lynch Eloh. Epi's prior suggestion that they're prioritizing stronger cop roles for survival is probably applicable here. If Nero wants to do it, I don't. She's probably a cop, but one of the less potent cops. You may disagree, and I've been wrong about everything barring a seemer moral victory, so tell me whatcha think.

Thoughts on Epi?

I'm sure it'll annoy you, but you seem to be in a tunnel. I was fully on board before, but the failed Dom lynch dismantles every construct of the game I had developed. If Dom is town then that leaves a unique combination in the cop team. The most likely one among those I hadn't favored before would seem to be Nero/chaindeath, and putting them together makes it harder to include Epignosis (but not impossible).

It could be Epi/Nero though. Or Epi/Soneji. Or Dom/TH could be cops and it's all been screwed from the beginning.

I dunno.

The simplest remaining explanation would be Nero, chaindeath, Soneji, Elohcin in my opinion. Epi isn't required by the laws of physics to be a cop.

If y'all talk it over however and decide you want Epi to be lynched, I will not fight it.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Note: Everyone who agrees that both Nero and Eloh are cops should probably not lynch Eloh. Epi's prior suggestion that they're prioritizing stronger cop roles for survival is probably applicable here. If Nero wants to do it, I don't. She's probably a cop, but one of the less potent cops. You may disagree, and I've been wrong about everything barring a seemer moral victory, so tell me whatcha think.

Thoughts on Epi?

I'm sure it'll annoy you, but you seem to be in a tunnel. I was fully on board before, but the failed Dom lynch dismantles every construct of the game I had developed. If Dom is town then that leaves a unique combination in the cop team. The most likely one among those I hadn't favored before would seem to be Nero/chaindeath, and putting them together makes it harder to include Epignosis (but not impossible).

It could be Epi/Nero though. Or Epi/Soneji. Or Dom/TH could be cops and it's all been screwed from the beginning.

I dunno.

The simplest remaining explanation would be Nero, chaindeath, Soneji, Elohcin in my opinion. Epi isn't required by the laws of physics to be a cop.

What do you think caused Dom to not be lynched?

Sloonei wrote:What do you think caused Dom to not be lynched?

Both of the dead stool pidgeons are decent seemer candidates, so perhaps he's one of those. Or maybe he's a don and TH is not. I really don't know.

The only people I won't vote for are Sloonei and S~V~S. If you two can come to an agreement, I'm with you all the way.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:The only people I won't vote for are Sloonei and S~V~S. If you two can come to an agreement, I'm with you all the way.

Well, let's see how the night goes, if there is even a tomorrow. But yeah, I am on that same page. Although for my own reasons, I trust TH too.

Prisoner
SVS
...
Turnip Head
Soneji
Nerolunar
chaindeath
Dom
Elohcin
Epignosis

S~V~S wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:The only people I won't vote for are Sloonei and S~V~S. If you two can come to an agreement, I'm with you all the way.

Well, let's see how the night goes, if there is even a tomorrow. But yeah, I am on that same page. Although for my own reasons, I trust TH too.

"I am on the same page", said SVS on a different page.

I am sorry. I tried to explain it yesterday.

Things did and did not happen for me based on TH and when he may or may not have been here. I really don't want to get modkilled at this point.

He meant a literal different page of the thread, as a joke. :P

I'm on 100 ppp though so I don't see it that way.

I think either TH is who we thought he was, or he planned for this very endgame since the beginning and is manipulative in a way that is unfathomable to me becasue it also would have affected his admin stuff, and I don't buy that.

I hate to keep being the pain in the ass person,lol.

linki, OH OK! over defensiveness for the win ha ha

S~V~S wrote:I am sorry. I tried to explain it yesterday.

Things did and did not happen for me based on TH and when he may or may not have been here. I really don't want to get modkilled at this point.

Sorry

Don't be,I am just glad to see you back!

S~V~S wrote:I really don't want to get modkilled at this point.

Indeed, you don't.

*My life is reduced to grovelling before a sock*

Can dat night be ended now?

Sloonei wrote:Can dat night be ended now?

Soon enough.

That's not soon enough.

S~V~S has been arrested by the Police. She was ?????.

Dom has been killed by the Capo and Crew from The Sockfaced Famiglia. He was Rookie Cop, a member of The Police.

It is now Day 11.

You have 48 hours to find a policeman. Good luck, goons!

You see, there I was feeling all demoralized and done when it seemed Dom was town.

*explodes into action*

RIP S~V~S by the way, you gave a wonderful effort in this game.

Well, I guess you're not dead. I keep equating arrested with dead. :P

Thank you, uh, whoever did that. We will hypothetically avenge you, perhaps.

Voting for Epignosis.

Well well well.

Hey cops, you're screwed.