The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:16 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:15 pm
Garden Gnome wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:05 pm First instinct of the day is that one mafia and one poisoner are contained within [Mac, Martin, Alison], and Allcrab is a wild card.
That sounds about right.
Oh, and you were not the target of any actions last night.
I'm confused.

This isn't true because I targeted jay but they weren't targeted by anything else so ???

No, it wsn't true.
I got the notice after I posted!!!!!

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:16 pm**

Who saved gnome?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:16 pm**

nvm lol

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:17 pm**

What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:17 pm**

well I'm confirmed then for anyone who still didn't believe me lol.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:19 pm**

The fact that I am not poisoned speaks well for Allcrab. Being investigative doesn't preclude being mafia.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:19 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:17 pm What was the rationale for watching me, Allcrab?

considering me explaining my rational yesterday I thought they'd switch it up and go after a villager.

My rationale keeps being right but I keep picking the wrong target lol.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:20 pm**

I shouldn't discount TangyStarkPrime as a poisoner prospect. On the poisoner side they can take Allcrab's spot as a wild card.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:20 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:16 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:13 pm I think all crabs posts yesterday were okay. There's a chance Martin is the poisoner/mafia has knowledge indicating he is which would be why made pushed him like that (and would mean allcrab is much more likely mafia) but yeah
Do you have a reason for tunneling me besides one post?

do you have a reason to have not read my post before replying to it

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm**

Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:20 pm
Allcrab wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:16 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:13 pm I think all crabs posts yesterday were okay. There's a chance Martin is the poisoner/mafia has knowledge indicating he is which would be why made pushed him like that (and would mean allcrab is much more likely mafia) but yeah
Do you have a reason for tunneling me besides one post?
do you have a reason to have not read my post before replying to it

Gonna take that as a no.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.

Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:23 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:20 pm I shouldn't discount TangyStarkPrime as a poisoner prospect. On the poisoner side they can take Allcrab's spot as a wild card.

Definitely syndicate, most probably tsp.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:24 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.
Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.

If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.
Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.
If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

As scum I mean.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm**

Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin

big doubt on Martin being mafia

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.
Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.
If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.

Hellbussing has consequences.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:25 pm Mafia prospects: Mac, Martin, Alison, Allcrab

Poisoner prospects: Tony, Mac, Martin

Someone yell at me if I am missing a player. It's hard to keep the two sides straight. I'll try to order them...

Maf - Mac = Alison > Martin > Allcrab

Poison - Mac > Tony > Martin
big doubt on Martin being mafia

Gonna wait on this until he speaks.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:28 pm**

just based on the premise "one of alison/Mac is a mafia who bussed hard," Alison is the much more likely mafia

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:31 pm**

It's pretty easy to conceive of a believable narrative for either of them, so it's a debate where my answer would tend to be "yes".

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:32 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:26 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:24 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:21 pm Leaning towards Alison being scum rather than Mac. I will vote Mac though if he doesn't claim.
Mac's lack of a claim has me leaning poisoner. Either way though I agree it's a problem.
If it's really Alison I would feel bad for the scum team.
Hellbussing has consequences.

Yeah but even then this level of Hellbussing I am seeing for the first time.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:34 pm**

If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:37 pm**

Martin’s town

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:37 pm**

I... think?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:37 pm**

Do we know how many wolves we have left

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:34 pm If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.

Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:37 pm Do we know how many wolves we have left

One probably and one poisoner.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:37 pm Do we know how many wolves we have left

1 or I riot

6 with two anti-town third parties or a mafia poisoner would be too much to ask.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 pm**

I doubt Martin is the poisoner a lot more than I doubted it on Day 5. I don't have a mechanical reason to say he isn't mafia.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:34 pm If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.
Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.

When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:44 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:34 pm If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.
Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.
When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.

Early in the game when he was around he got his share of it. If town can finish this game with a win I am giving him a ton of the credit for any good things I was able to contribute to it. If he had just decided to be stubborn with me I'd have been dead a long time ago.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:46 pm**

I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:47 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:44 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:38 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:34 pm If Alison or Mac are scum, guillo should be given props for calling both out on d2 especially Alison.
Certainly. Both he and Gavial were treated like clowns in this game, and I hope it doesn't happen in the future -- especially if they turn out correct on key reads.
When was gavial treated like that? I thought the only thing we talked about is that we thought he might die together with you.
Early in the game when he was around he got his share of it. If town can finish this game with a win I am giving him a ton of the credit for any good things I was able to contribute to it. If he had just decided to be stubborn with me I'd have been dead a long time ago.

Lol if they would have put me with you, we both would have died lol. After everything that has happened, the d1 negative impression I got still doesn't let me give you a town read lol.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:48 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:46 pm I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.

If poisoner can win with town, they should just claim.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:51 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:46 pm I don't know that I would prioritize either mafia or poisoner today. Getting rid of one or the other removes a kill from the game, and it's conceivable they can both kill each other. For that reason my initial voting interest lies with Mac -- he's a good candidate to be either one. I am going to let the day develop a bit before I start spamming out calls for a wagon though or even placing my own vote. Level heads prevail.
If poisoner can win with town, they should just claim.

for sure. Then we can go ahead and yeet mafia.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:52 pm**

Gnome is my scary poison zombie boo, unresolved and unknown. I do have a suspicion that she was healed by mafia to keep a mischop option on the board they otherwise would have lost to poison -- also would be why they don't kill me (us) apart from Nanook just being a sensible kill in his own right. Also possible Gnome herself is mafia -- we may need to rely on some faith reads here. It's comforting that Made was mafia so we don't [likely] have to contend with worrisome pairs anymore (e.g. Alison/Martin or Allcrab/Gnome). Allcrab's town read on Gnome looms large in this way.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:52 pm Gnome is my scary poison zombie boo, unresolved and unknown. I do have a suspicion that she was healed by mafia to keep a mischop option on the board they otherwise would have lost to poison -- also would be why they don't kill me (us) apart from Nanook just being a sensible kill in his own right. Also possible Gnome herself is mafia -- we may need to rely on some faith reads here. It's comforting that Made was mafia so we don't [likely] have to contend with worrisome pairs anymore (e.g. Alison/Martin or Allcrab/Gnome). Allcrab's town read on Gnome looms large in this way.

There is a lot of good stuff here from the love of my life.
There's some skepticism and a bit of suspicion, which isn't a surprise. How well do you really know your true love?
And there's also agreement with me that the healing was done by mafia, to keep me as a potential mischop since I was in pretty much everyone's PoE.
Of course, I could just be a cat. I've now used up two of my lives, and I have seven to go.
In that case, I am a town cat.
We need to figure out who would have poisoned me, and who would have saved me if the saving was actually done by mafia.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:44 pm**

One thing I think was suggested earlier, and it occurs to me that it demands correction:

Gnome and I were unknown lovers to one another when the game began. Our mutual activations are day abilities which then resolve during night phases if we both activate. This means that when we meet and are activated lovers, Gnome knows exactly who I am -- if she is mafia, there's no risk of accidentally shooting a town lover and killing Gnome too. She knows it's me.

This doesn't make much difference to me with respect to my read on Gnome, but it should be stated.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:44 pm**

I think it's pretty obvious I am not mafia if you use your brains.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm**

Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:44 pm I think it's pretty obvious I am not mafia if you use your brains.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Maybe. I'm waiting for a thing.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

Anything is possible in a closed setup.
I really don't have a clue.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:58 pm Is it plausible we still have two mafia to catch here?

I'd call it "plausible" in that I am not one of the hosts and didn't design the game. I don't think it should have two more, and I'd guess it doesn't.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:19 pm**

I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:22 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:19 pm I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.

Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:22 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:19 pm I am a muse. I target someone every night and it guarantees they get to use their ability (roleblock prevention).

N1 Idled.
N2 I targeted Tangrowth.
N3 Idled.
N4 I targeted Jay.
N5 I intentionally holstered.
Why does this "sound bad"?

Why idle?

I forgot to use my role twice.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 pm**

Last night I intentionally holstered because I was hoping Allcrab would watch the killer and clear me for not being involved.

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:25 pm I forgot to use my role twice.

How does that happen to someone on their way to 1,000 posts?

Why did you think that role would make you look bad?

Posted: **Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:28 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:25 pm I forgot to use my role twice.
How does that happen to someone on their way to 1,000 posts?

Why did you think that role would make you look bad?

Phases are in shitty time zones for me. I intended to submit both times but time just got away from me.

It wasn't just the role it was the fact I idled. The role is quite whatever. I also was still thinking we might lose to anti claim up to a point.

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