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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:42 am
by Strawhenge
Did @staypositivefriend already explain why they're voting for Alison?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am
by Justplayingitcool
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:40 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I had to miss a bunch of time on the thread, and was feeling anxious about what I'd miss, but coming back and seeing such an easy vote made me feel so much better. Thanks, @Gavial and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME!
wow I get no love for proving that Nook wasn't blocked?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:46 am
by Strawhenge
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:40 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I had to miss a bunch of time on the thread, and was feeling anxious about what I'd miss, but coming back and seeing such an easy vote made me feel so much better. Thanks, @Gavial and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME!
wow I get no love for proving that Nook wasn't blocked?
Sorry, yes, that helps too. :beer:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:54 am
by Long Con
fingersplints wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:20 am
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:46 am 1) Nanook JPIC
2) Long Con
3) Falcon

Nanook isn't fully clear in my mind. Is there a chance Nook is in the other team and has a vig shot?
I guess there is always a chance but it feels really unlikely to me. There has been a lot of kills each night, I feel like the town would need a kill to balance it out. Also, if nanook was wolf why would he go for Dom with his extra kill and not try to get one of the confirmed town? I’ve been leaning town on nanook for a while so I trust this
Nanook could not get cred for killing a confirmed town. He can get cred for killing Dom and claiming it, even if Dom had ended up being a villager.
Justplayingitcool wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:40 am [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I had to miss a bunch of time on the thread, and was feeling anxious about what I'd miss, but coming back and seeing such an easy vote made me feel so much better. Thanks, @Gavial and @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME!
wow I get no love for proving that Nook wasn't blocked?
If you were on Gerhardt, why wouldn't you do the same?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:59 am
by fingersplints
I guess that is true LC, but still less likely I think.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:13 pm
by Hally
Image

nook’s shot would be light green in the chart, though multiball complicates it a bit

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:16 pm
by Hally
i highly doubt wolves have additional kill power in the form of a vig though. they already each have a factional every night

it’s much more like nook is town kill power because, as we observed, we seemed to be lacking that and now we aren’t

there especially isn’t a wolf vig if there’s no town vig, so if no one cc’s nook as vig he’s just town

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:17 pm
by Strawhenge
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:16 pm i highly doubt wolves have additional kill power in the form of a vig though. they already each have a factional every night

it’s much more like nook is town kill power because, as we observed, we seemed to be lacking that and now we aren’t

there especially isn’t a wolf vig if there’s no town vig, so if no one cc’s nook as vig he’s just town
What's the likelihood of an SK in this scenario? I feel like probably not, with two wolf teams each getting a kill, but curious if it's a possibility.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:21 pm
by Long Con
Did Nanook say whether he's one-shot or normal?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:22 pm
by Strawhenge
Long Con wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:21 pm Did Nanook say whether he's one-shot or normal?
2-shot, I believe.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:23 pm
by Hally
Strawhenge wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:17 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:16 pm i highly doubt wolves have additional kill power in the form of a vig though. they already each have a factional every night

it’s much more like nook is town kill power because, as we observed, we seemed to be lacking that and now we aren’t

there especially isn’t a wolf vig if there’s no town vig, so if no one cc’s nook as vig he’s just town
What's the likelihood of an SK in this scenario? I feel like probably not, with two wolf teams each getting a kill, but curious if it's a possibility.
there could be some kind of hostile 3P that may or may not have a nightkill. but again, if there is more anti-town killpower there is ALWAYS town killpower added to balance it out. so whether it’s a wolf vig or an sk added town always has a vig and maybe even multiple to balance it out. you can’t have that much anti-town killpower and not have town killpower too. even with just two wolf nk’s a night and no additional wolf vig’s or sk’s, that’s a lot of anti-town killpower already for town to have no killpower ourselves. nook fixes that. he is our killpower and makes the setup balanced when it otherwise probably wouldn’t be. so he’s always town afaict

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:27 pm
by Hally
@Michelle i really believe it is in town’s best interest for you to out whatever information you have or else we will spend 30 hours waiting for the outed wolf to flip and do nothing. sharing your information gives us something more to work with and allows us to do some analysis or something now if it’s a red check. i think it’s just always beneficial to be open about your peek in this situation and i can’t see it harming anything

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:31 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If I were mafia with a vig I would never shoot Dom lol

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:32 pm
by Hally
we can’t really do any analysis with dom/gav being outed because the slot was effectively zero posting and didn’t have meaningful interactions with anyone really. dom was in everyone’s poe. boring

we can do analysis with the assumption al_sama is a wolf though. BUT if we lunch gav and kansas city mafia is eliminated from the game we can infer that al_sama was also kansas city, which means that the only wolves left would be from the opposite team and doing analysis with al_sama would be a waste because al_sama wouldn’t have living teammates to catch. so we should probably wait until gav flips and see if kc mafia is eliminated

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Also I don't think I can possibly be the only town kp out there

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:33 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:31 pm If I were mafia with a vig I would never shoot Dom lol
i believe you

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:34 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:32 pm Also I don't think I can possibly be the only town kp out there
yeah seems kinda unlikely if you’re just two-shot

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:36 pm
by Hally
i wish you hadn’t said you were two-shot though. if you said you were unlimited wolves would be forced to kill you but now they don’t have to because you’ll run out of shots and won’t be a threat anymore

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:37 pm
by Hally
but anyway, i suggest we treat nook as mech clear until such time where that seems like a bad idea

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:38 pm
by BoKnows
nice to see my exercise was a banging success lol

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:39 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:36 pm i wish you hadn’t said you were two-shot though. if you said you were unlimited wolves would be forced to kill you but now they don’t have to because you’ll run out of shots and won’t be a threat anymore
Why

I want to live

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:42 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:39 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:36 pm i wish you hadn’t said you were two-shot though. if you said you were unlimited wolves would be forced to kill you but now they don’t have to because you’ll run out of shots and won’t be a threat anymore
Why

I want to live
can’t relate

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:54 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:42 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:39 pm
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:36 pm i wish you hadn’t said you were two-shot though. if you said you were unlimited wolves would be forced to kill you but now they don’t have to because you’ll run out of shots and won’t be a threat anymore
Why

I want to live
can’t relate
I thought you'd be the kill last night for sure. Seemed right, they avoid Michelle and Alison because they're too obvious and need protection, hit up the quite-town-but-no-useful-role Hally instead. :shrug:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:56 pm
by Long Con
@novaselinenever How about a 24-hour day today is it's unanimously agreed upon?

Especially if we are having no night phase tonight.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:56 pm
by Long Con
*if it's unanimously

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:57 pm
by Hally
i wasn’t killed because i’m a wolf

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:59 pm
by BoKnows
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:57 pm i wasn’t killed because i’m a wolf
:micdrop:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:09 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:57 pm i wasn’t killed because i’m a wolf
But the other wolves on the other team you know might have wanted to tey and

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:09 pm
by Long Con
tey harder next time LC

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:16 pm
by novaselinenever
If agreed unanimously, the elimination can be hammered and the day cut short at the halfway mark.

Spoiler: show
@Long Con @Michelle @BoKnows @Oddmerta @Strawhenge @fingersplints @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Hally @Justplayingitcool @falcon45ca @Alison @KZA @staypositivefriend @Gavial @Esooa

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:17 pm
by Strawhenge
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:16 pm
If agreed unanimously, the elimination can be hammered and the day cut short at the halfway mark.

Spoiler: show
@Long Con @Michelle @BoKnows @Oddmerta @Strawhenge @fingersplints @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Hally @Justplayingitcool @falcon45ca @Alison @KZA @staypositivefriend @Gavial @Esooa
I'm good with it.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:17 pm
by BoKnows
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:16 pm
If agreed unanimously, the elimination can be hammered and the day cut short at the halfway mark.

Spoiler: show
@Long Con @Michelle @BoKnows @Oddmerta @Strawhenge @fingersplints @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Hally @Justplayingitcool @falcon45ca @Alison @KZA @staypositivefriend @Gavial @Esooa
I'm okay with it

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:26 pm
by KZA
Yes hammer

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:26 pm
by Hally
👍

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:33 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:16 pm
If agreed unanimously, the elimination can be hammered and the day cut short at the halfway mark.

Spoiler: show
@Long Con @Michelle @BoKnows @Oddmerta @Strawhenge @fingersplints @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Hally @Justplayingitcool @falcon45ca @Alison @KZA @staypositivefriend @Gavial @Esooa
Hammer me daddy

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:33 pm
by Oddmerta
Agreed

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Is there a list of troopwr claims? I know kza Alison odd i don't remember if a fourth claimed or not

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:35 pm
by BoKnows
are about to get hammered on a Monday afternoon? :beer: :beer:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:35 pm
by BoKnows
are we*

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:36 pm
by Justplayingitcool
novaselinenever wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:16 pm
If agreed unanimously, the elimination can be hammered and the day cut short at the halfway mark.

Spoiler: show
@Long Con @Michelle @BoKnows @Oddmerta @Strawhenge @fingersplints @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Hally @Justplayingitcool @falcon45ca @Alison @KZA @staypositivefriend @Gavial @Esooa
Agreed

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:41 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:34 pm Is there a list of troopwr claims? I know kza Alison odd i don't remember if a fourth claimed or not
alison isn’t claiming to be a trooper afaik, she’s claiming the role that can control them. i think there’s four troopers besides her. odd and kza have claimed but two are unclaimed

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:42 pm
by fingersplints
I’m ok with the half day

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:49 pm
by Gavial
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:40 am I have a feeling today is going to be a slow day. I have an exercise to help get the thought train moving. Besides Gavial who are the three players, you would like to see flipped?
1.) Nanook (Claim pending).
2.) Long Con
3.) Falcon
This is in no specific order btw.
1)BK
2)BK
2)BK

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:50 pm
by Gavial
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:57 pm i wasn’t killed because i’m a wolf
Unreal SK you are.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:53 pm
by BoKnows
Gavial wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:49 pm
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:40 am I have a feeling today is going to be a slow day. I have an exercise to help get the thought train moving. Besides Gavial who are the three players, you would like to see flipped?
1.) Nanook (Claim pending).
2.) Long Con
3.) Falcon
This is in no specific order btw.
1)BK
2)BK
2)BK
:charlieblackmon: :thinking:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:54 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:41 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:34 pm Is there a list of troopwr claims? I know kza Alison odd i don't remember if a fourth claimed or not
alison isn’t claiming to be a trooper afaik, she’s claiming the role that can control them. i think there’s four troopers besides her. odd and kza have claimed but two are unclaimed
Oh I thought she was

Ok

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:57 pm
by falcon45ca
Hammer = kewl

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:20 pm
by Justplayingitcool
BoKnows wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:35 pm are about to get hammered on a Monday afternoon? :beer: :beer:
:omg:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:22 pm
by Alison
Hally wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:13 pm Image

nook’s shot would be light green in the chart, though multiball complicates it a bit
I do not really believe in this chart

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 3]

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:23 pm
by Alison
In fact I think the last 3 vigilante shots I made as a wolf would fall into "green" categories.