Inception [END]

[Trustworthy Liberal]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

[Epignosis]

To phrase it another way: Do not start by voting for an independent. Use the Day phase to figure out who is a teammate of Dragomir, Evenstar, and Elephant. If you have exhausted all of your strength doing this, then and only then should you vote someone you suspect to be an independent (and even then I think that sucks).

[Epignosis]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

[Epignosis]

And goody for me...I get to start the Day with the "Why going after independents is bad for your win condition most of the time if you are a civilian" discussion.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

[Epignosis]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

Who did the vigilante kill?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

And goody for me...I get to start the Day with the "Why going after independents is bad for your win condition most of the time if you are a civilian" discussion.

I see why 90% an arso is okay to live for alittle same as most others even if they team mafia all the time anyway but with two KP one day one night and town haveing no way to stop it is a whole other ball of wax

[Trustworthy Liberal]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

Who did the vigilante kill?

Vig hasn't shot for three nights or atleast hasn't killed they are a member of the thread that stayed here the whole time.

[Epignosis]

Evenstar was "eliminated" during the Day phase. nutella was knocked off during the Night phase.

You are giving one person credit for doing both. Do you think that's correct?

[Epignosis]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

Who did the vigilante kill?

Vig hasn't shot for three nights or atleast hasn't killed they are a member of the thread that stayed here the whole time.

Ran out of quarters.

[Epignosis]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

Who did the vigilante kill?

Vig hasn't shot for three nights or atleast hasn't killed they are a member of the thread that stayed here the whole time.

Ran out of quarters.

That's my guess and Nutella doesn't make sense as a last shot if they are saving one even more so based on their other kills.

Also I think they would have shot vanity earlyier so save us a day phase due to not many town readying him since all people defending vanity have died I believe. Or alteast ended voting to save him.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Evenstar was "eliminated" during the Day phase. nutella was knocked off during the Night phase.

You are giving one person credit for doing both. Do you think that's correct?

1000% I belive this is correct

[Jackofhearts2005]

UNLOCKED. Sorry everyone, I don't know why it's doing that.

You okay there bucko?

[Epignosis]

Evenstar was "eliminated" during the Day phase. nutella was knocked off during the Night phase.

You are giving one person credit for doing both. Do you think that's correct?

1000% I belive this is correct

On what basis?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

I have started here and will stay untill I feel confident either we aren't losing a shit load of town over night or the wagon becomes impossible

Mafia I feel right now would be
Hyena
Pawn

But really want to analyze all votes when am home tonight at work on a phone so can't really and figure out how each of there votes go along with the flipped wolfs and look for similarities and match's but again need computer for that part.

[Epignosis]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

I like independent kills. Independent kills whittle things down. If things are balanced, a single independent should be more of a threat to mafia than to civilians. When I'm mafia, I care more about independents than I do when I'm civilian. That's the case here.

To sum it up, I'm not spending today hunting an independent. I'm hunting mafia.

[Epignosis]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

I have started here and will stay untill I feel confident either we aren't losing a shit load of town over night or the wagon becomes impossible

Mafia I feel right now would be
Hyena
Pawn

But really want to analyze all votes when am home tonight at work on a phone so can't really and figure out how each of there votes go along with the flipped wolfs and look for similarities and match's but again need computer for that part.

I do not disagree with that.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Evenstar was "eliminated" during the Day phase. nutella was knocked off during the Night phase.

You are giving one person credit for doing both. Do you think that's correct?

1000% I belive this is correct

On what basis?

The mafia have only 1 Kill, the vig would never and most likely couldn't shot Nutella, there is no poison nor did Eve act as if they were, it's the only role that could have such power.

[Dom]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

How do you know Radishes killed nutella?

[Dom]

iaafr, epi?

[Dom]

TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

I like independent kills. Independent kills whittle things down. If things are balanced, a single independent should be more of a threat to mafia than to civilians. When I'm mafia, I care more about independents than I do when I'm civilian. That's the case here.

To sum it up, I'm not spending today hunting an independent. I'm hunting mafia.

I get your reasons but I have mine as well after yesterday I don't believe we are close to being out numbered and leaves us at the best time to independent hunt personally after a double mafia death.

But that's how I play to be fair at Homesite I am one of two people that don't just help mafia as neutral so heavy biased.

[Dom]

I think I was wrong about Jack.

[Dom]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

I like independent kills. Independent kills whittle things down. If things are balanced, a single independent should be more of a threat to mafia than to civilians. When I'm mafia, I care more about independents than I do when I'm civilian. That's the case here.

To sum it up, I'm not spending today hunting an independent. I'm hunting mafia.

I get your reasons but I have mine as well after yesterday I don't believe we are close to being out numbered and leaves us at the best time to independent hunt personally after a double mafia death.

But that's how I play to be fair at Homesite I am one of two people that don't just help mafia as neutral so heavy biased.

Why not hunt for mafia?
Your argument has no basis.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?

Mafia janitored so that's their kill
Vig is out of ammo/if has ammo wouldn't shot nuttela
Only leave neutral

[Trustworthy Liberal]

For those wondering, I refuse to lynch independents over mafia unless the independent is a serial killer.

THEY KILLED TWO PEOPLE THATS MORE THEN A SERIAL KILLER

Yikes. More all caps.

Who did the killer kill and why?

They killed Eve thankfully mafia and Nutella town
But all it takes is another round of double town killed and by tommorow SoD we could be down there more town four if Big misses I feel that's way to dangerous to leave alive

How do you know Radishes killed nutella?

We have evidence and a case that makes us belive Eve was killed by a member of the 3 limit as well as Radishes plays match to a neutrals in my opinion.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Eva definitely knew she was going to die, though, right? Poisoner? Not listed in the roles, though.

Reading back over her final posts, she also seemed to think it was me. Even in death, ghost Eva haunts me...

I mean, yeah. She basically scumclaimed at the deadline.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

I like independent kills. Independent kills whittle things down. If things are balanced, a single independent should be more of a threat to mafia than to civilians. When I'm mafia, I care more about independents than I do when I'm civilian. That's the case here.

To sum it up, I'm not spending today hunting an independent. I'm hunting mafia.

I get your reasons but I have mine as well after yesterday I don't believe we are close to being out numbered and leaves us at the best time to independent hunt personally after a double mafia death.

But that's how I play to be fair at Homesite I am one of two people that don't just help mafia as neutral so heavy biased.

Why not hunt for mafia?
Your argument has no basis.

It does I feel killing the neutral while ahead helps us stay ahead and lose less members of the town unless they kill by a hidden poison at night that the player doesn't know of. And that is how Eve died but we don't know 100% if the later then yes 100% go for mafia but we don't know that's the problum.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Eva definitely knew she was going to die, though, right? Poisoner? Not listed in the roles, though.

Reading back over her final posts, she also seemed to think it was me. Even in death, ghost Eva haunts me...

I mean, yeah. She basically scumclaimed at the deadline.

I feel if she knew she would have actually tryed killing Radish more then she did honestly was already sum read most of the day.

[MacDougall]

Going back to look at the day 1 poll in light of these flips.

Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005 voted for 112

Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets all voted for Dragomir

Macdougall voted for Epignosis

Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin voted for Evenstar

Dom, Michelle voted for Hyena

Dragomir voted for MacDougall

LadyLambdaDelta voted for Nutella

112 voted for Trustworthy Liberal

iaafr, boo voted for no lynch

Two flipped wolves on the 112 wagon and no flipped wolves on the Dragomir. It really does look like 112 was a straight up savewagon. Only Epignosis and Jack remain unsolved on that wagon.

No red flips from the Dragomir lynch. There is probably at least one busser in the list of remaining players from that wagon but I'd be surprised if it was more than two. I very much doubt that it's 100% pure but it's probably at least very pure given the 112 wagon actually has wolves on it. juliets, Hyena and Pawn are all on there and currently catching flak. I doubt they're all scum. It especially doesn't strike me as a very juliets thing to do if there is an active savewagon. It's probably on brand for the other two.

The Evenstar wagon is probably three civs. Tbh everyone off wagon is probably a civ because the save wagon was active and in effect. Leaving votes off wagons there is sub-optimal. Then again... that'd be kinda nuts.

[mention]Epignosis[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] talk about each other.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think I was wrong about Jack.

Really?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL, I'm going to lay it out like this: If you are a civilian, use your energy and time finding out who is mafia.

If you are stumped by the end of the Day, by all means, vote for whomever you think is an independent if that's what you want to do.

But please don't start there.

So you would rather leave three kills with no way of stopping over crossing that to one is my question I have no idea how many "quarters" the neutral has.

I like independent kills. Independent kills whittle things down. If things are balanced, a single independent should be more of a threat to mafia than to civilians. When I'm mafia, I care more about independents than I do when I'm civilian. That's the case here.

To sum it up, I'm not spending today hunting an independent. I'm hunting mafia.

I get your reasons but I have mine as well after yesterday I don't believe we are close to being out numbered and leaves us at the best time to independent hunt personally after a double mafia death.

But that's how I play to be fair at Homesite I am one of two people that don't just help mafia as neutral so heavy biased.

Why not hunt for mafia?
Your argument has no basis.

It does I feel killing the neutral while ahead helps us stay ahead and lose less members of the town unless they kill by a hidden poison at night that the player doesn't know of. And that is how Eve died but we don't know 100% if the later then yes 100% go for mafia but we don't know that's the problum.

Also pissing my thought process and even stated above in other posts that I have plans to look for mafia today as well but feel this is a better Lynch

[Jackofhearts2005]

Epi’s eyes are the deepest of blue....

[Jackofhearts2005]

Eva definitely knew she was going to die, though, right? Poisoner? Not listed in the roles, though.

Reading back over her final posts, she also seemed to think it was me. Even in death, ghost Eva haunts me...

I mean, yeah. She basically scumclaimed at the deadline.

I feel if she knew she would have actually tryed killing Radish more then she did honestly was already sum read most of the day.

Maybe it was a mid day poisoning?

[Dom]

TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?

Mafia janitored so that's their kill
Vig is out of ammo/if has ammo wouldn't shot nuttela
Only leave neutral

janitored?

wtf?

[Dom]

What does Janitored mean?

I feel like an absolute moron

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?

Mafia janitored so that's their kill
Vig is out of ammo/if has ammo wouldn't shot nuttela
Only leave neutral

janitored?

wtf?

Look at Michelle's role oh wait it's just question marks that's cause it was cleaned/Janitored same and the mafia kill N1.

[Dom]

Why didn't she just try and lynch Radish?

What happened in Limbo?

Is Radish Marla?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

What does Janitored mean?

I feel like an absolute moron

It means the mafia know their roles but the public doesn't

[Dom]

TL-- how the hell do you know who killed whom in there?

Mafia janitored so that's their kill
Vig is out of ammo/if has ammo wouldn't shot nuttela
Only leave neutral

janitored?

wtf?

Look at Michelle's role oh wait it's just question marks that's cause it was cleaned/Janitored same and the mafia kill N1.

I'm used to night kills never being revealed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So I totally misread the setup as “may or may not have these roles and others” when it is really “has these roles in some form and also others.”

[Dom]

I think I was wrong about Jack.

Really?

[Dom]

Nothing was optimal about Eva's play, but if Radishes is that bad, why didn't she try and lynch him?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Can we all just agree Eva is chaos incarnate and we can't take her note seriously at all?

She spewed you 3p. Of course you'd say that haha.

Are you town friendly Radish-san?

I so believe Radishes to be the 3p and if they posses day and night kill power this will be extremely dangerous

So far they've only killed a scum so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

For the record, 3p players tend to be protown on this site at roughly a 2:1 ratio.

[Dom]

How many baddies do we think are left?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

How many baddies do we think are left?

If I read OP right 3 power roles and atleast one goon

Correct me if wrong

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think I was wrong about Jack.

Really?

Dom has never done this as town.

Spoiler: show

I love you, too.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

How many baddies do we think are left?

If I read OP right 3 power roles and atleast one goon

Correct me if wrong

Sorry 2 power roles and a goon just checked