The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:01 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:00 am What

That’s insane

It’s gotta be something pre-determined then, I can’t believe a host would willingly put their hand on the scale like that

Yeah, Sloonei would need to follow a specific guideline or ruleset that he built just for a role lol

I don’t buy it at all

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:02 am**

Yeah it would be pretty weird

I’m not even sure if it would be the weirdest thing in this game tho

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:06 am**

The only reason why we are winning is cuz we got rid of the 50% post capper otherwise whats the use of all these strong roles if u cant claim ur results

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:09 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:55 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:54 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?
Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.
watcher also knows the names of the ppl that visited

so u dont know the name of the person who visited ted? just the amount of ppl?
Yeh. It was at random and provided by host.

Wait maybe i misunderstood wilgie woops sorry!

Looks like his watch is true randomness? Idk. "Provided by the host" confused me, its kinda dubious? [mention]tedxtr[/mention] [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am**

50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:17 am**

Ok that role is significantly less fucky

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am 50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao

If they werent 50% post capped they would have claimed all results

But now they can only claim 50% of their night results

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:23 am**

tutuu, did juliets target you n2?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:24 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm My role does not forbid me from claiming.
Also claim
I'm an x shot protector. I protect people from non-civilian non-lethal powers. N1 I protected Alison so unless I was role blocked, her stuck on the lift thing was a civilian action. N2 I holstered.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:25 am**

She claimed these

N1 - alison
N2 - holster
N3 - Master Radishes
N4 - yet to claim

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:25 am**

Why I think Wilgy gets yeeted

1) His N1 action is info that was already stated in thread. If the watch is truly random, then the possibility of him peeking the exact same stuff that was said in thread is exactly 5%. I'm willing to take chances on a 5% coincidence being actually a scum.

2) His result on jpic.

What do we know? Mafia has a roleblocker (uhhh not really sure as to whether it's just a full roleblocker or has something else on top of the roleblocker). If Wilgy did indeed track jpic to tutuu, then why did she not get post-capped?

Juliets was not on tutuu. With the knowledge that we have, then jpic's action should've went through on tutuu. Jpic couldn't have been roleblocked, because he was mafia.

So Wilgy lied about jpic's visit. This isn't really set in stone because maybe 3p shenanigans and the obvious question of "why would you lie about your scum partner anyway". I think that's complete wifom and what matters is that I've proven that the possibility of tutuu not being post capped here are only due to roleblocking, which couldn't have occurred because jpic's mafia.

Or...juliet's action being on tutuu, which wasn't the case.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am**

the strongest argument for wilgy being town is the fact that his album is confirmed to be on an album that a mafia has already flipped from, and the trends are indicating that there's only one mafia per album

but this is a big assumption to make - and i could easily see wilgy being 3p. i am probably going to vote in him and samusamu today

i wont lie, ive been tinfoiling a lot about a DeepScum in alison/mac and i'm in the process of figuring out if that kind of paranoia will hold up to any scrutiny

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am**

I was crazy a moments ago cause i couldnt post.

But just a log out, dunno why, i have the remember me option.

Okey, tuutuu i you act on alison is it neccesary to juliet to act too?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am**

Even if jpic would've been roleblocked by a 3p or town roleblocker (???), then Wilgy shouldn't have tracked him to the target.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:25 am Why I think Wilgy gets yeeted

1) His N1 action is info that was already stated in thread. If the watch is truly random, then the possibility of him peeking the exact same stuff that was said in thread is exactly 5%. I'm willing to take chances on a 5% coincidence being actually a scum.

2) His result on jpic.

What do we know? Mafia has a roleblocker (uhhh not really sure as to whether it's just a full roleblocker or has something else on top of the roleblocker). If Wilgy did indeed track jpic to tutuu, then why did she not get post-capped?

Juliets was not on tutuu. With the knowledge that we have, then jpic's action should've went through on tutuu. Jpic couldn't have been roleblocked, because he was mafia.

So Wilgy lied about jpic's visit. This isn't really set in stone because maybe 3p shenanigans and the obvious question of "why would you lie about your scum partner anyway". I think that's complete wifom and what matters is that I've proven that the possibility of tutuu not being post capped here are only due to roleblocking, which couldn't have occurred because jpic's mafia.

Or...juliet's action being on tutuu, which wasn't the case.

as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped. remember that at the time, JPIC was still playing the role of the cop, and he wanted to make his claim look real

so i'm not sure that i buy that drwilgy lied about the visit, regardless of what his alignment is. but i do consider wilgy having the visit to be non-alignmnt indicative

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:30 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am the strongest argument for wilgy being town is the fact that his album is confirmed to be on an album that a mafia has already flipped from

Elaborate - what's the album and did he say the song at all?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:30 am**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am I was crazy a moments ago cause i couldnt post.

But just a log out, dunno why, i have the remember me option.

Okey, tuutuu i you act on alison is it neccesary to juliet to act too?

In the same player i mean.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped

Was he a strongman / ninja or something? If you get roleblocked, you aren't seen visiting the target.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am 50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao
If they werent 50% post capped they would have claimed all results

But now they can only claim 50% of their night results

What you’re saying does not make sense

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped
Was he a strongman / ninja or something? If you get roleblocked, you aren't seen visiting the target.

on my homesite, roleblocker roles (regardless of their alignment) won't stop someone from showing up as a visit, even if their abilities get blocked. can you confirm that it's the opposite way around on this site?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:33 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped
Was he a strongman / ninja or something? If you get roleblocked, you aren't seen visiting the target.
on my homesite, roleblocker roles (regardless of their alignment) won't stop someone from showing up as a visit, even if their abilities get blocked. can you confirm that it's the opposite way around on this site?

I'm 90% sure that's just a thing on your site.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:34 am**

Everywhere else I’ve played roleblocker stops visit from happening

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:40 am**

I also hit two

different "in how" this time, wanna know who.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:40 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:30 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am the strongest argument for wilgy being town is the fact that his album is confirmed to be on an album that a mafia has already flipped from
Elaborate - what's the album and did he say the song at all?

i could have sworn that this was established earlier in the thread - but i just searched through his ISO to find a reference to his album/song, and i can't find anything

@mac - where was it confirmed that wilgy had an album from one that had already flipped scum?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:40 am**

I also hit two

different "in how" this time, wanna know who.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:40 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am 50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao
If they werent 50% post capped they would have claimed all results

But now they can only claim 50% of their night results
What you’re saying does not make sense

no ur wrong

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:41 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am 50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao
If they werent 50% post capped they would have claimed all results

But now they can only claim 50% of their night results
What you’re saying does not make sense

no ur wrong

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:41 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:16 am 50% post capper in no way stops people from claiming their results lmao
If they werent 50% post capped they would have claimed all results

But now they can only claim 50% of their night results
What you’re saying does not make sense

no ur wrong

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:42 am**

WTF im sorry my phone internet lagged so i was hammering the submit button

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:42 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:33 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped
Was he a strongman / ninja or something? If you get roleblocked, you aren't seen visiting the target.
on my homesite, roleblocker roles (regardless of their alignment) won't stop someone from showing up as a visit, even if their abilities get blocked. can you confirm that it's the opposite way around on this site?
I'm 90% sure that's just a thing on your site.

Which gets me into another point...

Out of the Tim / Wilgy / Dizzy trifecta, the chances are that Wilgy is the one that got caught lying and Tim wasn't actually roleblocked.

I just don't know how accurate the reasoning may be, because it's starting from the premise of Wilgy scum so it can be refuted easily. But, basically, if we think Wilgy is scum that gave his visit based on info seen in thread, then he couldn't have known Dizzy also visited me. So he got slapped to reality with Dizzy's claim, lol.

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Thought of something, if you were roleblocked n1 then hard claim that please. Whoever it may be.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:43 am**

If you were roleblocked N1 then Wilgy's outed.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:43 am**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am I was crazy a moments ago cause i couldnt post.

But just a log out, dunno why, i have the remember me option.

Okey, tuutuu i you act on alison is it neccesary to juliet to act too?

Wdym?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:44 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:32 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:29 am as theorized earlier in the thread, it is possible that one of JPIC's partners chose to use their roleblock on JPIC so that he could be shown as visiting tutuu without having tutuu be post capped
Was he a strongman / ninja or something? If you get roleblocked, you aren't seen visiting the target.
on my homesite, roleblocker roles (regardless of their alignment) won't stop someone from showing up as a visit, even if their abilities get blocked. can you confirm that it's the opposite way around on this site?

Yea pretty sure the host elaborated it itt

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:47 am**

i did check wilgy last night. and mac, we've had tutuu on me, she stops roleblocks, and that is public info ever since I outed. so no point roleblocking me.

I'm going to do what I promised and [VOTE: ted] aubergine for not giving his promised hard clear. sorry tim, wilgy lives another day

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:48 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:43 am
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am I was crazy a moments ago cause i couldnt post.

But just a log out, dunno why, i have the remember me option.

Okey, tuutuu i you act on alison is it neccesary to juliet to act too?
Wdym?

Whats mean that.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am**

I don't buy it /shrug

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am**

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:51 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:52 am**

i was gonna check ted and vote wilgy but ted said he could hard clear himself today and I said to him specifically you will be exed if you don't follow through, and he didn't follow through, so I'm gonna do what I said I would do and exe him.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:53 am**

I can hard clear myself but there's no need to when I already have an impenetrable defence. I'm not gonna claim because the "cop" doesn't buy it. You've yet to say why that wall doesn't make me town because it's a flood of naked truth.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:54 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine
there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho

Are you calling mac dumb or do you think he is mafia?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:54 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:53 am I can hard clear myself but there's no need to when I already have an impenetrable defence. I'm not gonna claim because the "cop" doesn't buy it. You've yet to say why that wall doesn't make me town because it's a flood of naked truth.

what defense

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:19 am If there's a claimed track on me I'm like actually mechanically locked as town.

There are most likely 2 mafia left AT MOST. If we all agree on this then I'm locked town or 3p.

We know one is a mafia rolecop. We don't know the either.

If I'm the mafia rolecop, why do I check Nanook who already claimed? So that's out of question.

If I'm the other unknown role, then what could I have possibly done to Nanook instead of Mac or Alison (assuming scum wanted Hally gone). There aren't a lot of options that would express a role with a scum motive to do something to Nanook.

If we go from the base assumption of "mafia have roles that negatively affect the village and help them" then what could I have possibly done to Nanook when he's likely dying today regardless?

The only way you can counter my last question is through "jpic has died" which I couldn't have known as mafia regardless.

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:54 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine
there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho
Are you calling mac dumb or do you think he is mafia?

mac is being extremely dumb this day phase voting me

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:56 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:19 am If there's a claimed track on me I'm like actually mechanically locked as town.

There are most likely 2 mafia left AT MOST. If we all agree on this then I'm locked town or 3p.

We know one is a mafia rolecop. We don't know the either.

If I'm the mafia rolecop, why do I check Nanook who already claimed? So that's out of question.

If I'm the other unknown role, then what could I have possibly done to Nanook instead of Mac or Alison (assuming scum wanted Hally gone). There aren't a lot of options that would express a role with a scum motive to do something to Nanook.

If we go from the base assumption of "mafia have roles that negatively affect the village and help them" then what could I have possibly done to Nanook when he's likely dying today regardless?

The only way you can counter my last question is through "jpic has died" which I couldn't have known as mafia regardless.

i have no idea but I policy exe liars regardless

also I asked mac this question yesterday and he theorized you might be a mafia rolecop who didn't trust nanook's claim or something

I'm willing to thunderdome you until you hardclear yourself though!

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:58 am**

Yes - I don't trust nanook that fake claimed once and then hard claimed the other time, on the same day

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:58 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:54 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:49 am [VOTE: Alison ] aubergine
there's nothing you can do to exe me because town isn't dumb, hee ho
Are you calling mac dumb or do you think he is mafia?
mac is being extremely dumb this day phase voting me

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:00 am**

Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:48 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:43 am
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:27 am I was crazy a moments ago cause i couldnt post.

But just a log out, dunno why, i have the remember me option.

Okey, tuutuu i you act on alison is it neccesary to juliet to act too?
Wdym?
Whats mean that.

Means what do you mean

Ur sentence above is pretty butchered i didnt understand

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:00 am**

@tutuu why are you voting me?

Posted: **Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:01 am**

I'm keeping it real with you, I'm on full autopilot this game and I have 100% confidence it's the right thing to do. random paranoia on people I've cleared as town is not correct in this setup and that's why I've had 0 doubts about tutuu, mac, spf, juliets etc. I fully intend to brute-force the POE down and then we can talk about deepwolves once we're down to FX. It's what I should have done in amdibals (and would have won us the game there), and it's what we should have done in jack attack too, it would have given us a shot. Not gonna lose any more games to nonsense paranoia so you're gonna have to exe me (which you can't) if you want to play the game that way

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