The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:48 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:46 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:25 pm @KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

Like 20 min ago?

Maybe it's just a wolf role.

Esooa looks like a slam dunk Grogu partner.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:26 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:24 pm

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:37 pm if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.

The irony is that I have over twice your post and have caught two mafia members. What have you accomplished?

Tell me about how you "caught" Grogu? What were your thoughts there? Spell it out to me. Please. In detail. It should clear you if you show your process, right?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

If you are confident there is only one mafia left then sure

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 pm Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

2 to 3 wolves left

wolves already had their mega soup kills

if I shoot a wolf

and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over

there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill

so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:00 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

Because the tradeoff for soup is that two wolves need to not use their NA's right, can that happen with only one wolf?

This is important.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 pm I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.

I fkn' did this already. Read my first post to Syn (as Epi pointed out, sure it was in reply to Mac, but it was in regards to Syn's original questions)

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:00 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 pm Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

I didn't catch Grogu.

Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.

I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.

Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.

You are mafia.

Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?

What have you accomplished in the thread?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:02 am I am actually Spider HAM up in here right now.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:02 am I am actually Spider HAM up in here right now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:02 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:00 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:56 pm Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

I didn't catch Grogu.

Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.

I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.

Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.

You are mafia.

Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?

What have you accomplished in the thread?

Tell me how you drove a nail into Grogu's coffin? Please explain. Also explain how you knew Chard was town? Did you not believe KZA? Why not? What was your thought pattern? Please explain how what you did was not just TMI?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:55 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:42 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:33 pm actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

2 to 3 wolves left

wolves already had their mega soup kills

if I shoot a wolf

and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over

there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill

so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:08 am k

all you goobers are put in time out

claims, now

anyone who doesn't is in my gun list

mac and esooa are no longer in contention

if we get a good shot and a good chop, there's no soup kill and we have 3 town to catch 1 wolf if that isn't game over

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:09 am I'm not claiming.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:09 am I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:11 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:09 am I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Behold the field where my fucks are sown.

Alas, it is barren.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.

claim pls

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:11 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:10 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:09 am I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Behold the field where my fucks are sown.

Alas, it is barren.

if you are town, you are throwing the game by doing this