The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote:If the mafia had any balls they'd kill inactives.

Hi, G-Man!

We don't have a NK tonight, right?

DharmaHelper wrote:If the mafia had any balls they'd kill inactives.

+1

Dom wrote:We don't have a NK tonight, right?

I think that this is the question of the day. We can't really be sure.

Dom wrote:We don't have a NK tonight, right?

We don't know. Host answer on kill passing to other mafia was ambiguous.

Forgot that "maybe"

I think it was an Epi game where the serial killer started off vanilla and started killing after a team was gone.

Dom wrote:I think it was an Epi game where the serial killer started off vanilla and started killing after a team was gone.

Which role would be the serial killer here, do you think? I'm not sure I see it likely that this mechanic is in play here. I guess you never know for sure.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:I think it was an Epi game where the serial killer started off vanilla and started killing after a team was gone.

Which role would be the serial killer here, do you think? I'm not sure I see it likely that this mechanic is in play here. I guess you never know for sure.

No clue. I'll guess we'll find out. :/

Hm.

The night post is obviously talking about Scarecrow, but has Riddle in the title?

Also, Scarecrow'd. -_-

Ok, it's time for me to pack up the computer. I will try to get online tomorrow evening before the lynch closes but it all depends on what i find when I get there. So, this may be my last chance to talk to you before you vote. I have tried to impress on everyone that it does not make sense for me to be the scarecrow and I am putting my mafia integrity on the line when I tell you that is not my role. If it were, you would be able to say from here on out "yeah yeah, you told us those lies before in Arkham" and Typhoony would never let me forget it in IRC. So believe me when I tell you it is not me. And believe me when I tell you it is not in your best interest to vote for me.

Yay, no death.

Yay for no death!!!

Not sure if there is any inner meaning to that night post, but I'm not going to spend too much effort thinking about it.

So...Falcone...my gut is telling me Enrique. Mainly because he came in day 10 to encourage us all to vote scarecrow. This would be a great move for the teammate of Bubbles, who was a likely lynch victim from the outset. A great way to move the lynch direction elsewhere without having to actually defend a teammate.

And sending much love JC!! Hope you are able to pass through what your family is going through and move towards healing.

LoRab wrote:Yay for no death!!!

Not sure if there is any inner meaning to that night post, but I'm not going to spend too much effort thinking about it.

So...Falcone...my gut is telling me Enrique. Mainly because he came in day 10 to encourage us all to vote scarecrow. This would be a great move for the teammate of Bubbles, who was a likely lynch victim from the outset. A great way to move the lynch direction elsewhere without having to actually defend a teammate.

If this is true, who do you think is Scarecrow? Juliets?

Why do people think it's Juliets?

DH who's scarecrow?

Dom wrote:DH who's scarecrow?

I would argue Scarecrow is the one made of straw.

I encouraged Scarecrow hunting bc the Scarecrow fucked me up, I thought I was pretty transparent about that.

RIP no one.

As for what we should do this phase, I'd rather look for Scarecrow first but if town just wants to get on with it, whatever I guess. I don't suppose there's any way MP would request a mod kill on himself?

I don't mind going after Scarecrow - but I think we need to be realistic and agree to not spend too many days on it. And also recognise we might lynch someone for being Scarecrow and then they actually turn out to be Falcone.

Yay for no death. Boo that someone was Scarecrowed.

Do the Scarecrowed people feel comfortable saying which role they are scarecrowed for?

If possible I would rather free up peoples win conditions with a Scarecrow lynch.

I had a thought (that actually woke me up last night, I am so pathetic) but I have to pull some quotes and have to run out the door, so I will do it later.

If anyone has any other thought, now might be a good time to bring your craziest conspiracy theories to the table becasue I think we're talked ourselves into a corner.

*we've

I saw it right after I hit *post*

S~V~S wrote:Yay for no death. Boo that someone was Scarecrowed.

Do the Scarecrowed people feel comfortable saying which role they are scarecrowed for?

If possible I would rather free up peoples win conditions with a Scarecrow lynch.

I had a thought (that actually woke me up last night, I am so pathetic) but I have to pull some quotes and have to run out the door, so I will do it later.

If anyone has any other thought, now might be a good time to bring your craziest conspiracy theories to the table becasue I think we're talked ourselves into a corner.

I have been scarecrowed for Batman. Lol.

Matt wrote:RIP no one.

As for what we should do this phase, I'd rather look for Scarecrow first but if town just wants to get on with it, whatever I guess. I don't suppose there's any way MP would request a mod kill on himself?

lol

S~V~S wrote:Yay for no death. Boo that someone was Scarecrowed.

Do the Scarecrowed people feel comfortable saying which role they are scarecrowed for?

If possible I would rather free up peoples win conditions with a Scarecrow lynch.

I had a thought (that actually woke me up last night, I am so pathetic) but I have to pull some quotes and have to run out the door, so I will do it later.

If anyone has any other thought, now might be a good time to bring your craziest conspiracy theories to the table becasue I think we're talked ourselves into a corner.

MP. :/

Man, how many people need me dead?

At least two.

OK this rules out Juliets completely for me.

She has probably been reading the thread closer than anyone. At least one suggestion came up for an easy Scarecrow condition, plus I am sure the hosts will take a PM saying someone is choosing not to target anyone. Juliets, imo, would not have used the role of a known living player had she been the SC and targeted someone last night.

I would not put it past any of the rest of us, though, lol. But it does not look like a Juliets move to me.

Dom wrote:At least two.

If it helps enough of you win the game, I may consider just sacrificing myself, unless we have a really good Scarecrow lead.

An important distinction even I overlooked

Win condition being met =/= End of game being triggered?

Specifically I mean in the case of Dr. Crane ^

DharmaHelper wrote:An important distinction even I overlooked

Win condition being met =/= End of game being triggered?

Yeah, seems end of game happens when all GCPD or mafia are gone, regardless of who else has won/lost win cons. Pretty typical of Epi I'd say, starting with when he hosted GoC '14.

DH?
Enrique?


I agree on that distinction.

Unless everyone has been targeted, in which case, no one would have won.

Dom wrote:DH?
Enrique?


I agree on that distinction.

What is your question?

Would Dom not target anyone last night and then claim he's the latest scarecrow victim?
Is that something he thinks would help him?

I agree with svs, I don't think juliets is scarecrow anymore.

Typhoony wrote:Would Dom not target anyone last night and then claim he's the latest scarecrow victim?
Is that something he thinks would help him?

I agree with svs, I don't think juliets is scarecrow anymore.

By that logic any one of you could have skipped a night.

What do you mean?

Typhoony wrote:What do you mean?

I mean anyone could have skipped a night and claimed they were crow'd that night.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:DH?
Enrique?


I agree on that distinction.

What is your question?

Those are my ideas for Scarecrow... maybe Typh? IDK I can't remember who's been crowd'd and who hasn't-- thoght htose could be lies anyway.

Typhoony wrote:Would Dom not target anyone last night and then claim he's the latest scarecrow victim?
Is that something he thinks would help him?

I agree with svs, I don't think juliets is scarecrow anymore.

I feel like it's a bit unfair of me to answer this, but if you want my opinion, I'll share it.

Personally I don't think the Scarecrow would do that. It would be super inefficient and the game is gonna end at any moment, he has to focus on having his win conditions met before he dies or the game ends.

It's kinda funny, though, now that I think about it. Asking people to kill MP seems like a bit of an oversight, doesn't it? He would want to keep the toxin'd players around, right?

Sure Dom, tell me.

I'm reminded of the cross-checking idea that in the end no one actually did, but looking back I'm not sure it's that good. Scarecrow wins when half the living players at endgame are toxin'd, why would he try to get them lynched? I understand it's sort of a chaotic role to manipulate people, but I think the best use of the role would be to target players you think will survive and push them to the endgame.

So if he's asking people to kill MP he's either really confident that MP won't die, or making a sloppy move that could cost him the game. Especially since there's no team that needs Robin dead for endgame.

My idea was to check the scarecrowed peeps and see who never went after them.

Not whatever you thought it was

OK, this is the exchange that has been bothering me.

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Why would Scarecrow be honest?

Why would scarecrow lie? Both sides create wifom. I don't think we can assume that Scarecrow would do one or the other.

Well considering that the possible Scarecrow list consists of self reporters, why wouldn't he just say he was targeted? He knows everyone he targeted so he could just pick a night he targeted someone dead. Why wouldn't he lie?

I think DH is more likely to have targeted me than not.

You not being targetted is interesting. It gave me a brief moment of paranoia, but I don't think you are the Scarecrow. But I do think it means you are in a telling position, in terms of mayeb having some insight into who would have targetted you by now.

I certainly would have targetted you

Here he thinks it an odd thought that Scarecrow would lie^^ In his reply to me, there was no mention of the lying bit, which was the entire intention of the conversation. And he makes a point of saying he would have targeted me. The post right after this he says, "And Typhoony too".

Then he happily embraces the Scarecrow lying as a wifom-y excuse for his own defense.

Golden wrote:

LoRab wrote:Would Golden target himself night 1?

As others have pointed out, I would simply just lie.

But I think there is enough of my behaviour in the thread to back up the fact it was not a lie.

Did any of you need Bubbles role dead to win? Or maybe the other Falcone?

Am I clutching at straws, lol?

Typhoony wrote:My idea was to check the scarecrowed peeps and see who never went after them.

Not whatever you thought it was

Oh I thought it was the opposite. Like, who would take advantage of their situation? Though that actually doesn't make sense... sorry I'm a little sleep deprived and not thinking very well.

It may be because I'm tired, but what are you saying irt Golden svs?