The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh and welcome Spacedaisy! MP voted for himself on Day 2, do you suspect yourself that much to do it again on Day 3?

No. I am civ. And those who know him would know he wouldn't vote for himself as a baddie even if he wasn't caught up. That is his civ or indy move. Plus I know my role, so there's that.

Scotty wrote:

Quin wrote:

Scotty wrote:Remember INH? Remember why we thought he was good? I don't.

insertnamehere wrote:huh. well. looks like I need to re-assess some things and watch La Jetee on Flimstruck.

I'm not gonna lie, the result of this day left me breathless. Hopefully Llama forgives the contempt from earlier. Not sure what to think about the band of outsiders who voted alongside me for Llama. But still, it's my life to live, and my vote to give, so I'm still gonna defend the logic I used when I wrote a case against Llama. Anywho, I'll have more to say over the course of the week end.

Didn't realize more to say over the course of the weekend was what should have been green OT text about his food preferences.

His llama vote looked shady and he's done absolutely no hunting or contributing since day 1.

So...

For those of you that have gleaned civ vibes from him: why?

INH hasn't posted on topic once today and his vote was just *there* all of a sudden. I'd say he's likely silenced or confused. Or secreted.

Silenced? No...as you said, he posted twice on day 2. Confused? Maybe...I don't know what "confused" means in this context. 2 off-topic posts doesn't a confused player make. I don't buy that shit.

What secret inhibits your own posting?

Either way I'll want to hear more from him tomorrow and see whether it was a fluke or he's just coasting on propane

I don't know what the limitations of being silenced entail. Both his posts were off-topic, and after the lynch poll closed, so I think it's worth considering. He did vote, and I'm not sure whether hosts let silenced players do that. I wouldn't say it's confused either. I think I'd expect INH to have to post to a sort of restriction, rather than not at all. Secrets are secrets; they're worth mentioning.

Elohcin wrote:

Quin wrote:Boomslang was singled out as being the survivor of the night kill, and both Jay and I were singled out in the lynch post. I think there was a tie. How are ties determined, Mongoose?

then he backpeddals and says this? What's up Quin?

huh

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:Silenced? No...as you said, he posted twice on day 2.

Day 2, going by the 24-hour lynch poll, ended at 8:47 EST. INH did not post until after the lynch poll ended, and I agree that he was likely silenced.

Confused? Maybe...I don't know what "confused" means in this context. 2 off-topic posts doesn't a confused player make. I don't buy that shit.

I saw no indication that anyone was posting in a confused manner. Perhaps the confusion isn't a posting restriction.

Scotty wrote:What secret inhibits your own posting?

I don't have the sense that Quin's posting has been inhibited in any way - can you explain what you mean by this?

Maybe he misinterpreted what I was saying there. I was saying that INH's lack of presence today could be due to him being affected by a secret role.

Elohcin wrote:Fair enough. I can see one of the first two before the third. I just don't see mafia blocking themselves right after losing a guy in Day 1 lynch. But I understand your points. Just keep an open mind that my theory could also be true. I think it's weird that after no one was lynched everyone just backed off of him completely.

Don't worry, so do I.

Quin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:Silenced? No...as you said, he posted twice on day 2.

Day 2, going by the 24-hour lynch poll, ended at 8:47 EST. INH did not post until after the lynch poll ended, and I agree that he was likely silenced.

Confused? Maybe...I don't know what "confused" means in this context. 2 off-topic posts doesn't a confused player make. I don't buy that shit.

I saw no indication that anyone was posting in a confused manner. Perhaps the confusion isn't a posting restriction.

Scotty wrote:What secret inhibits your own posting?

I don't have the sense that Quin's posting has been inhibited in any way - can you explain what you mean by this?

Maybe he misinterpreted what I was saying there. I was saying that INH's lack of presence today could be due to him being affected by a secret role.

Why don't you ask inh?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Quin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:Silenced? No...as you said, he posted twice on day 2.

Day 2, going by the 24-hour lynch poll, ended at 8:47 EST. INH did not post until after the lynch poll ended, and I agree that he was likely silenced.

Confused? Maybe...I don't know what "confused" means in this context. 2 off-topic posts doesn't a confused player make. I don't buy that shit.

I saw no indication that anyone was posting in a confused manner. Perhaps the confusion isn't a posting restriction.

Scotty wrote:What secret inhibits your own posting?

I don't have the sense that Quin's posting has been inhibited in any way - can you explain what you mean by this?

Maybe he misinterpreted what I was saying there. I was saying that INH's lack of presence today could be due to him being affected by a secret role.

Why don't you ask inh?

I think he'll get the memo when he reads the thread.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh and welcome Spacedaisy! MP voted for himself on Day 2, do you suspect yourself that much to do it again on Day 3?

No. I am civ. And those who know him would know he wouldn't vote for himself as a baddie even if he wasn't caught up. That is his civ or indy move. Plus I know my role, so there's that.

This is my read on MP as well. I won't be eager to vote for Daisy.

I didn't get an item but if I did i would be selling it for store credit at a Wrangler outlet

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:Lol

Note my next post, furry friend

I don't understand how you went from one list to the other, my friend.

I actually laid it out as it popped into my head before I boarded my plane.
flying thru a snow storm. If you never hear from me again, I blame the grinch

Ummm, what the hell is that result??

Argh.

Voting Kevin Kline's Klingon Kleptomaniac Kologne Emporium. Or whatever it's called.

Night 2: It's a Gas, Gas, Gas!



The team left their lovely balloon and walked inside Kevin Kline's Calvin Klein Vintage Drink Emporium. Where else would you buy able to buy vintage drinks and Calvin Klein jeans?


The drink variety was amazing. Chocolate sodas, celery sodas, fizzy lifting sodas. You name it, they had it. Sodas from all over the world.

"Couldn't we have just gone to Atlanta?" asked Llama.

"No, this is different," said Blooper.

"I hope we aren't going to need any of those straws," Sorsha said, pointing to an entire wall of them.

Kevin Kline met his visitors. He looked positively ethereal.



"I apologize for my rather strange appearance," he stated. "I'm in the middle of rehearsing for Hamlet, off-Broadway," he explained.

"That's a cool shirt," LongCon noted.

"Anyway, please go to the counter and Mimi will assist you with getting a fresh draught of any item we have on top, absolutely free of change," said Kevin Kline.

"Righteous!" said the Marmot.

The crew sat around the fountain and made their selections. Many chose chocolate.



Eloh was feeling adventurous. "I'll have the Strawberry Jackfruit," she asserted.

"Here you go," Mimi, serving Elohcin her soda.

Eloh took a full sip. "I like it," she said. "It's got this weird tang to it. Piquant."

Suddenly, Eloh fell off her stool.

"I think she's been poisoned!" said Made.

"Wait, that label doesn't say Strawberry Jackfruit! It's partially peeling off! It says Strychnine!" DrWilgy shouted.

"Who did this?" demanded JJJ.


Eloh has died. It is now Day 3. You have 24 hours to catch Eloh's killer.





What's everyone's favorite soda? I like anything with spices or herbs in it along with a fruit flavor, especially citrus. Blood Orange and Sicilian Lemon are two of my faves.

RIP Eloh, our first Civilian death!

Mongoose wrote:What's everyone's favorite soda? I like anything with spices or herbs in it along with a fruit flavor, especially citrus. Blood Orange and Sicilian Lemon are two of my faves.

Beer.

And there's about to be hell to pay.

Updates:

Made permalinks in Post 1 for Made and Daisy.

I see. RIP Elo

Either someone is trying to frame Quin even harder than he himself admitted yesterday, or they are just betting she was a blocker. Either way, I'm still looking forward to hearing from our less-talky people.
INH, A person, Wilgy.

the only Soda I drink is ginger ale. And that's preferably only with whiskey

I see Quin is off the poll. Probably for the best.

FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

RIP Eloh.

I feel like I might want to lynch Wilgy today. His vote on Day 1 looks worse than any other current candidate, and he has said effectively nothing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

Very good. I earned a Day phase lie detection.

Scotty wrote:I see Quin is off the poll. Probably for the best.

Oh, cool.

I do not know why the doctor was not on Elohcin last night.

Quin wrote:I do not know why the doctor was not on Elohcin last night.

Well, I was already on her, but that's another matter.

That's some crazy sodas you mentioned, Host. I like Cream Soda, Grape and Orange Crush, Dr Pepper.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

Did you learn what number you were?

Has anyone ever tried the Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray celery soda? I went through a weird period in 2006 (law school weirdness?) where I had such a penchant for these.


Here is an article that talks about weird sodas, with a special highlight on this celery soda!

The best soda I've ever had is...


And yes, I have tried Cel-Ray Soda. It is extremely startling and weird, and not entirely unpleasant.

thellama73 wrote:The best soda I've ever had is...


And yes, I have tried Cel-Ray Soda. It is extremely startling and weird, and not entirely unpleasant.

Where did you find that aforementioned soda? I also really like root beers with non-traditional roots in them. Oh and beets. I want to find a beet soda because I love beets.

Fuck beets.

Mongoose wrote: Where did you find that aforementioned soda? I also really like root beers with non-traditional roots in them. Oh and beets. I want to find a beet soda because I love beets.

It is from Britain, but can occasionally be found in fancy-schmancy shops in the US like World Market. They also make many excellent other flavors, such as Victorian Lemonade, Sevilla Orange, Cherry Cola, Shandy, and the weirdest of all, Dandelion and Burdock (which is bitter and medicinal, and I quite like it).

Long Con wrote:That's some crazy sodas you mentioned, Host. I like Cream Soda, Grape and Orange Crush, Dr Pepper.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

Did you learn what number you were?

#4

Epignosis wrote:Fuck beets.

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote: Where did you find that aforementioned soda? I also really like root beers with non-traditional roots in them. Oh and beets. I want to find a beet soda because I love beets.

It is from Britain, but can occasionally be found in fancy-schmancy shops in the US like World Market. They also make many excellent other flavors, such as Victorian Lemonade, Sevilla Orange, Cherry Cola, Shandy, and the weirdest of all, Dandelion and Burdock (which is bitter and medicinal, and I quite like it).

I had Dandelion and Burdock when visiting some family there. It reminded me a lot of the quinine component of Tonic Water.

Epignosis wrote:Fuck beets.

Right on brotha!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Long Con wrote:That's some crazy sodas you mentioned, Host. I like Cream Soda, Grape and Orange Crush, Dr Pepper.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

Did you learn what number you were?

#4

I was #3, you weasel.

I'm number one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

You're lying. You didn't activate the lynch immunity last night. You get more value from it by making us believe it's active now, then you activate it in the future without saying anything.

Now you reply with false bravado and invite us to try and lynch you.

I'd like to lynch you. I hear you've got some new cool things that are going to convince everyone I'm bad first though.

Long Con wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

You're lying. You didn't activate the lynch immunity last night. You get more value from it by making us believe it's active now, then you activate it in the future without saying anything.

Now you reply with false bravado and invite us to try and lynch you.

I'd like to lynch you. I hear you've got some new cool things that are going to convince everyone I'm bad first though.

Quin is off the poll. 3J gets a lynch immunity for today.

Huh.

Long Con wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

You're lying. You didn't activate the lynch immunity last night. You get more value from it by making us believe it's active now, then you activate it in the future without saying anything.

Now you reply with false bravado and invite us to try and lynch you.

I'd like to lynch you. I hear you've got some new cool things that are going to convince everyone I'm bad first though.

"False bravado"

Everything you post is bullshit. I am building my case now.

I told you people the truth so you don't waste your fucking time and votes on me. If you don't listen then that's your own fault.

RIP Eloh

Quin wrote:I do not know why the doctor was not on Elohcin last night.

What if she blocked the doctor?

Long Con wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:FYI: I earned a lynch immunity on the canine carrier express. We are allowed to discuss prizes. It is active today and only today. Do not waste your votes on me. I'll be back later.

You're lying. You didn't activate the lynch immunity last night. You get more value from it by making us believe it's active now, then you activate it in the future without saying anything.

Now you reply with false bravado and invite us to try and lynch you.

I'd like to lynch you. I hear you've got some new cool things that are going to convince everyone I'm bad first though.

Why would you think this? Did you win anything last night LC?

Alright now that I have the opportunity, I am going to restate my suspicion of Long Con more thoroughly, covering the full length of the game so far.

An early exchange with Quin

In this exchange I see one player (Quin) refuting the assertion of another (Long Con) and then asking a couple of simple questions which bear relevance to LC's assertions. There is some potential in Quin's questions to add substance to Long Con's post history which will affect reads on him presently (then) and in the future.

Instead of just answer those questions, LC called him "defensive", and in this context I don't see how that term applies to those questions, and turned the prodding finger back upon Quin. These shouldn't have been difficult questions to answer even LC's perspective of any implied inferences in those questions by Quin was dubious. There's no reason LC can't answer Quin's questions and then issue the same prod. He addressed this later:
This reads like fake b/s to me. I see no reason why answering Quin's questions would have "downplayed the oddness of his attitude", and I'm not entirely sure what that even means.
This general perspective of LC's is understandable, but he expresses it in a way that strikes me as hyperbolic. Refer to the highlighted content.

I can understand why someone might suspect llama for inferring that any interaction is civ-civ, but to suggest that it's not even compatible with a civilian's mindset is a bit much.
I never like it when people assert that my suspicions are based upon effort level or post quantity, and that is what LC implies in the highlighted portion (that I'd have suspected him less if he didn't participate). That downplays my reasoning and discredits me without it being related to a read on me.
The first line in this quote is in response to Epi's case against DDL. After we've had the chance to discuss this point a little more I can be more understanding of LC's perspective of hypocrisy -- I don't necessarily think it's a rock solid scumtell either.

Nonetheless, his agreement Epi and disagreement with me combines to form an unclear and on-the-fence stance about DDL that doesn't look great.
This is the moment where the little buzz on my scum radar became a loud ring. I hate this post less only than the one that will follow it. LC jammed himself into a dialogue between Marmot and I in which Marmot was asking me questions about Day 1 and I was answering them. LC's comment here serves two purposes -- to refute a point I'd made, and to lend a supporting hand to Marmot -- neither of which was explicitly stated. This is angling. This is manipulative. I had to ask him what his point was to get him to actually say something.
"You should be able to see the difference."

"You should be able to see the difference."

"You should be able to see the difference."

This is simultaneously an accusation against me (something he'd later deny) and a serious buddy-move on Marmot. To tell me that I should be able to know when someone else is joking, in a Mafia game thread, without orange sarcasm text, wherein the post claims someone else is "evil", is absolute bullshit. He has since rejected that this represents a demand that I should be able to read minds, but that rejection was weak.

That's exactly what this is. "You should be able to see the difference." "You should be able to see into Marmot's brain and know when he is joking."

Hell no.
The highlighted portion is demonstrably false and just an awful backtrack.

He told me what I should think, and he told me he didn't believe what I was saying. Those are accusations and to claim otherwise is nonsense.
There are numerous examples of LC converting the things I say into something brazenly idiotic. The misrepresentation is so blatant that I can't fathom how it'd be misinterpretation.
Here's a pretty hilarious example of LC doing exactly what he was wrongly accusing me of doing. I called him my top suspect before this argument even started, and he responded by trying to take the offensive against me.

In this post he pretends that I'm the one playing defense. Garbage.
And here is where LC insults everyone else's intelligence with this manipulative horseshit. He makes me look like a jerk by implying with no sound reasoning that I think everyone else is dumb, thus discrediting me in the eyes of observers.

And the notion that I am using "ambiguous language" or that I "need to speak more plainly" is laughable crap. I have been speaking as plainly as I possibly can in every one of these posts we've fought over. I don't see how LC can really believe in what he is saying to me. It's all angling and deflection.

Moreover, one final point: how much scumhunting has Long Con really done in this game? His most substantive effort has been to cast suspicion upon me -- after I started ripping his face off.

~~~~~

If anyone out there disagrees with my reasoning or thinks Long Con is a civilian for whatever other reason, please speak up. I have seen a few people give him the thumbs up and I have no idea why.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote:

Long Con wrote:I'll get to your DDL comments regarding me at some point. I read them on my phone while out in the woods, so I didn't respond directly. You can employ a little patience, or you can try and spin it into an accusation, totally your call.

Here's a pretty hilarious example of LC doing exactly what he was wrongly accusing me of doing. I called him my top suspect before this argument even started, and he responded by trying to take the offensive against me.

In this post he pretends that I'm the one playing defense. Garbage.

The quoted post is in error here. This is what I meant to quote:

Hey neat I broke it.

thellama73 wrote:The best soda I've ever had is...

Spoiler: show

Hey neat! I had that once at St. James Park in London. It just so happens I took a picture.

thellama73 wrote:RIP Eloh.

I feel like I might want to lynch Wilgy today. His vote on Day 1 looks worse than any other current candidate, and he has said effectively nothing.

I think he looks bad too. He's the one low poster for whom we have meaningful evidence to work with, and he has given no indicators that he is a civilian.

I am not inclined to make much of Elohcin being killed re: Quin. There was reason to think she might be the civilian roleblocker which is always a high-priority target for baddies, and the obvious Quin relation makes the kill more attractive.

Welcome back Eloh.

And belated welcome Daisy.

Unpopular as this may be, I would argue that Eloh is bad now.

Epignosis wrote:Unpopular as this may be, I would argue that Eloh is bad now.

Could be. I had no reason to trust A Person.