The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:I can see a scenario where Epi was attempting to distance from DF, but wasn't expecting for more votes to go that way last cycle.

I'd like to lynch DF still.

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I can see a scenario where Epi was attempting to distance from DF, but wasn't expecting for more votes to go that way last cycle.

I'd like to lynch DF still.

A scenario that would require a few things to be true:

1. I'm bad.
2. I would kill Eloh Night 1.
3. I don't know how to distance from a teammate well.

DrWilgy wrote:Why were you killed instead of FZ Epi?

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Why were you killed instead of FZ Epi?

wut

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

I don't believe you genuinely believe this.

DrWilgy

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

I don't believe you genuinely believe this.

DrWilgy

I am on board with that. I've been looking back over things, and I get more bad vibes than good from Wilgy's "all the jokes" playstyle.

DrWilgy

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Why were you killed instead of FZ Epi?

wut

If you are so confirmed civvy, why did FZ die? Several were still suspect of her.

And what leads you to that? Why is that hard to believe?

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

I don't believe you genuinely believe this.

DrWilgy

I am on board with that. I've been looking back over things, and I get more bad vibes than good from Wilgy's "all the jokes" playstyle.

DrWilgy

Boo! Weeeaaaak!!

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

I don't believe you genuinely believe this.

DrWilgy

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Why were you killed instead of FZ Epi?

wut

If you are so confirmed civvy, why did FZ die? Several were still suspect of her.

And what leads you to that? Why is that hard to believe?

I am confirmed. Some people just don't agree.

I don't think the mafia knew that by killing Eloh Night 1, they would create that circumstance, and I didn't harp on it until this Day.

Killing FZ. is textbook Mafia strategy 101: Nobody was going to lynch FZ, were they?

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:In my head, we've hit a point where you not being bad is harder to believe due to the ammount of "hey look I'm so civvy because of these simple reasons!!"

I don't believe you genuinely believe this.

DrWilgy

I am on board with that. I've been looking back over things, and I get more bad vibes than good from Wilgy's "all the jokes" playstyle.

DrWilgy

Boo! Weeeaaaak!!

We can't all be Brian Shaw.

MacDougall wrote:Lynch jackofhearts team and we will be sitting pretty.

MacDougall wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I don't think I'v played with Jack of Hearts before, but I'm finding him annoying. He apologized for not being "entertaining" enough. Entertainment is not the goal of the game, boyo. Finding baddies is. Take the snark down a notch, why don't you, and answer me this:

Who are looking at voting today and why?

I know this post was accidentally aimed at me but I'll answer anyway.

We were in Unfortunate Events together but you got lynched on Day 1.

If I had a day kill that I had to use this second, I'd shoot Mac. Three seconds in and he's sure I'm scum? Never played with him before so his certainty is either a bluff or a lie (depending on his alignment and if he's bad, how many scum he thinks exist outside his group). Plenty of townies are jokingly certain of scum on Day 1 but with two posts about it, I get the impression he isn't joking. Some townies can act really certain on Day 1 when they actually just have a hunch. Don't know Mac's meta to know if he plays that type of a townie game or if he's just looking for a mislynch or to look like he's contributing.

I'm not actually planning on voting for Mac, though. I'm planning on voting for whoever pings me enough that I want to lead a lynch or my top suspect that is getting enough votes to make them lynchable. (I don't vote third party very often cause I want my vote to matter.) I don't know who that is, yet, but I'll let you know.

Why you seem so bad then?

MacDougall wrote:Who said I was certain? I am more confident in my little read on you than anyone else seems to be on anything and you aren't gonna lynch yourself so might as well get a wagon cooking on someone. Why not Pingy McStrangepost himself?

A fool would be certain given such little evidence.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
I am confirmed. Some people just don't agree.

I don't think the mafia knew that by killing Eloh Night 1, they would create that circumstance, and I didn't harp on it until this Day.

Killing FZ. is textbook Mafia strategy 101: Nobody was going to lynch FZ, were they?

1. Clearly
2. Why harp on it then? You acknowledge it is solely WIFOM yes?
3. Was anyone going to lynch you? SVS, a civ, pointed out "someone was trying to frame Epi" meaning the thought of you being civ was already there if the mafia had been watching the interaction.

DrWilgy wrote: 3. So is the scenario that both players that voted for you are bad and missed that framing interaction with you?

DrWilgy wrote:Actually, I guess Mac did bus LC in talking heads, but LC wanted out of that game. It also wasn't right out of the gate.

Linki - 3. So you want me to see the following -
"It's not wierd that Epi is more alive than FZ right now even though he's a 'confirmed' civvie. It's not wierd that Epi wouldn't have been killed after Eloh because a confirmed civvie (SVS) stated that it was a frame (which implies civvynes). It's not wierd that the players voting for Epi now, missed that interaction, which was a decent bit of what the person we lynched yesterday said."

DrWilgy wrote:You should when wierd can translate to baddie indicative. Are you toing to not care about that?

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:You should when wierd can translate to baddie indicative. Are you toing to not care about that?

No.

Long Con wrote:"Toing"?

MacDougall wrote:Lynch jackofhearts team and we will be sitting pretty.

MacDougall wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I don't think I'v played with Jack of Hearts before, but I'm finding him annoying. He apologized for not being "entertaining" enough. Entertainment is not the goal of the game, boyo. Finding baddies is. Take the snark down a notch, why don't you, and answer me this:

Who are looking at voting today and why?

I know this post was accidentally aimed at me but I'll answer anyway.

We were in Unfortunate Events together but you got lynched on Day 1.

If I had a day kill that I had to use this second, I'd shoot Mac. Three seconds in and he's sure I'm scum? Never played with him before so his certainty is either a bluff or a lie (depending on his alignment and if he's bad, how many scum he thinks exist outside his group). Plenty of townies are jokingly certain of scum on Day 1 but with two posts about it, I get the impression he isn't joking. Some townies can act really certain on Day 1 when they actually just have a hunch. Don't know Mac's meta to know if he plays that type of a townie game or if he's just looking for a mislynch or to look like he's contributing.

I'm not actually planning on voting for Mac, though. I'm planning on voting for whoever pings me enough that I want to lead a lynch or my top suspect that is getting enough votes to make them lynchable. (I don't vote third party very often cause I want my vote to matter.) I don't know who that is, yet, but I'll let you know.

Why you seem so bad then?

MacDougall wrote:Who said I was certain? I am more confident in my little read on you than anyone else seems to be on anything and you aren't gonna lynch yourself so might as well get a wagon cooking on someone. Why not Pingy McStrangepost himself?

A fool would be certain given such little evidence.

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:"Toing"?

going

DrWilgy wrote:Actually, I guess Mac did bus LC in talking heads, but LC wanted out of that game. It also wasn't right out of the gate.

Linki - 3. So you want me to see the following -
"It's not wierd that Epi is more alive than FZ right now even though he's a 'confirmed' civvie. It's not wierd that Epi wouldn't have been killed after Eloh because a confirmed civvie (SVS) stated that it was a frame (which implies civvynes). It's not wierd that the players voting for Epi now, missed that interaction, which was a decent bit of what the person we lynched yesterday said."

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:"Toing"?

going

Thanks... I couldn't lose the 't'. "Toying"? "Towing"? "Toting"? "Totalling"??

Long Con wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Who said I was certain? I am more confident in my little read on you than anyone else seems to be on anything and you aren't gonna lynch yourself so might as well get a wagon cooking on someone. Why not Pingy McStrangepost himself?

A fool would be certain given such little evidence.

If he's good: This looks pretty legit

If he's bad: He accuses while simultaneously suggesting it's foolish to believe it.

DrWilgy wrote:Have you ever expected Mac to do anything earnestly?

TheFloyd73 wrote:I'll bear the blame for missing the poll, I don't really have much of an excuse apart from being too engaged in my education.

Great voting guys. Man, Scotty's pic of a putrid, mutated creature makes me squeamish. It's not usually moral to lynch someone for posting an image, but this time it's justified.

notsawyer540 wrote:So is Ted Cruz dead or do we have to lynch him day 2? It says "he is" in the post where it says "he was" for Assange. So I'm assuming he have to lynch Jack next.

TheFloyd73 wrote:I know any excuse for low posting is going to be held against me, so I won't bother exclaiming one.

From my brief reads, I can take this:
As already stated, Wilgy lost his usual cherpiness when Jack's role was revealed. That's a subtle detail that's well-pointed out. I don't feel implied to label him as scum at this stage, but I'm open to any change.
With Jack's role revealed, I can understand the benefits of lynching and not lynching him. When I have the time, I might investigate his associations and statements before Night 1.
Heck, Long Con holds a strong stance of being the interrogator. It makes it difficult to assume his alliance. I've seen it in other games as well. I know I'm probably stating the obvious, but doesn't anyone else think likewise with me?

Marmot wrote:Have MacDougall and jack played together before?

DrWilgy wrote:

Marmot wrote:Have MacDougall and jack played together before?

You ignoring me Marmot?

Marmot wrote:Have MacDougall and jack played together before?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I don't like the cut of this jackofhearts character's jib. Voting there.

Well I don't like that your avatar is what you'd get if Diablo fucked a sharptooth.

But I don't vote for stupid reason.

Epignosis wrote:After reviewing MacDougall's posts and checking some time stamps, I'm not going to vote for him today.

Marmot wrote:

Epignosis wrote:After reviewing MacDougall's posts and checking some time stamps, I'm not going to vote for him today.

Why time stamps?

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Who said I was certain? I am more confident in my little read on you than anyone else seems to be on anything and you aren't gonna lynch yourself so might as well get a wagon cooking on someone. Why not Pingy McStrangepost himself?

A fool would be certain given such little evidence.

If he's good: This looks pretty legit

If he's bad: He accuses while simultaneously suggesting it's foolish to believe it.

In that last post, it seems like MacDougall is throwing in the towel trying to get his biggest suspect lynched...before he's actually done anything in earnest to get people to vote Jack.

Am I reading that incorrectly?

TheFloyd73 wrote:Going to place a vote on Jack for now.

Mac's also in my sights as potential scum. Although Swayer's perspectives on him could have been dictated more coherently (but heck, this is coming from me), I believe they extrude a real point.

MacDougall wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Who said I was certain? I am more confident in my little read on you than anyone else seems to be on anything and you aren't gonna lynch yourself so might as well get a wagon cooking on someone. Why not Pingy McStrangepost himself?

A fool would be certain given such little evidence.

If he's good: This looks pretty legit

If he's bad: He accuses while simultaneously suggesting it's foolish to believe it.

In that last post, it seems like MacDougall is throwing in the towel trying to get his biggest suspect lynched...before he's actually done anything in earnest to get people to vote Jack.

Am I reading that incorrectly?

It sounds like you guys are just struggling to believe I am this good at Mafia.

Epignosis wrote:I don't know. Ask Jack.