The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:09 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:27 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:29 am
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:37 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:00 pm
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:59 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:26 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
As I dont't actually think Justin is bad
I'm still bad, I just happen to not have randed scum
This is a surprisingly good post.

Now gib reads
Mmm scumreads are gonna be tricky with so many people but I will get back to you on that tomorrow

I ain't giving out townreads, it's useful to hold 'em for infosec
ugh plz don't let infosec become verbiage
What does infosec mean

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:10 am**

let's not kill anyone and just listen to Grogu talks

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:19 am**

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:22 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:04 pm I'm not sure which is more scummy,

Guillotine being a memer that is excessively meming which seems like something a scum memer could get caught up in (or a disinterested towny).

Or EnderWiggin giving the excessive memer a town pass.

Probably the latter?
3) you for trying to SR people for NAI reasons

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:47 am It is a sin for Guillotine to be posting the same memes and misusing the format almost every time

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:41 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:20 am I originally liked your confident seeming entrance to the thread and I get the vibe that you're trying to develop things and get people talking which seems to be helpful.

I think you intended to put me in your "Town leans" whatever that's worth.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:44 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:11 pm how le fuque does enter have 3 votes?
Guillo saw me say "target" and decided it was wolfy.

Axe OMGUSed my OMGUS so we're in a loop.

TSP just decided I was a lazy target and I'd pinged him so he was mad at me and voted me.

No I voted for you before that

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:50 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:26 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:09 am [VOTE: Dana] aubergine

Give me at least three town/wolf leans.

If we had to lynch one person now, who would it be?
This feels kind of aggressive did you start being more aggressive because people were calling you out for not being your normal amount of aggressive?

This is a great observation, I also saw this and am ignoring it for now.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:52 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:41 am
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:20 am I originally liked your confident seeming entrance to the thread and I get the vibe that you're trying to develop things and get people talking which seems to be helpful.
I think you intended to put me in your "Town leans" whatever that's worth.

Idk about that

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:54 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?
I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight

What do you mean by this? What is frozen and what record did I overwhelmingly need to straighten?

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:55 am**

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:07 am**

Okay yeah I'm totally lost here

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:11 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:54 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?
I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight
What do you mean by this? What is frozen and what record did I overwhelmingly need to straighten?

There is no hidden meaning, I'm saying that there's no point in "pressure" unless you're willing to let people contemplate their existence over L-1 which seems to be something (albeit, from my short existence here) that this site is unwilling to do for the sake of pressure... Therefore, there is no real pressure.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:12 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:07 am Okay yeah I'm totally lost here

Sig is the mafia, and their partner is likely Dana

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:12 am**

Axehole is certainly a personality. i'm not sure if I have a read on them just yet.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:12 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:45 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:42 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:41 am
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:38 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:34 am best we don't make ai posts cuz its good for infosec
lol

Giving out townreads is stupid and dumb and loses games

It locks in people's perceptions and gives scum a roadmap of who they should kill. No game that is solved by poe couldn't be solved by scumhunting.

That's a bit of an exaggeration but I really hate towncores and trying to gather a bunch of townreads, it's a great way to lose.
Everyone has townreads.

People saying who they townread helps town with information. because it gives spew when wolf flips.

Wolves can use it? Sure.

Town can get dumb and stuck on thinking they should never second guess their townread? Sure.

But town getting stuck on townreads happens without people revealing who their townreads are too?
Not if you forget your townreads because you didn't post them to the thread.
reported for openwolfing

As is tradition.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:13 am**

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:13 am**

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:47 am It is a sin for Guillotine to be posting the same memes and misusing the format almost every time

That is true.

Maybe we should....policy yeet.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:14 am**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:49 am

lol forgiven for this

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:16 am**

TBH, I thought, with the Riot it was a given that Guillotine would be the 2nd kill. I don't really see the point in keeping them in the game + lack of funny... Something this generation of instant gratification, entitled, selfish, unsympathetic little pricks loathe.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:16 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?
I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight

I am interested in putting serious pressure. I can and will push for a lynch if I don't get anything back and there isn't a better target. The vote is a promise of that.

Town needs participation.

Albeit it's not super threatening at just one vote, but still.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:17 am**

I legitimately cannot understand Axehole's posts

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:18 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:17 am I legitimately cannot understand Axehole's posts

There's not much to interpret to be honest, I'm not obscuring any deeper meaning than what you see.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:19 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:17 am I legitimately cannot understand Axehole's posts

They are a (MafiaScum?) player, I'm just not used to seeing play like that?
I don't think it's downright wolfy but for me it's just weird

Also editor not having keyboard shortcuts is cringe

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am**

Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:23 am**

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am**

tbh I was expecting to have good or stronger reads for reading the past 600-something posts

I didn't. Well, not as many I would like.

going to read random isos

my eyes on grogu though that bastard has tricked me in the past with my attempts to get reliable reads on him and if it weren't for the soup kill I would ask for a check on him

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways

I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways

I feel like Luckbox needs to be kept on the radar but I'm moving on for today.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:25 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am
Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways
I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.

He's still wolfy.

I'm just pressuring Justin.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am tbh I was expecting to have good or stronger reads for reading the past 600-something posts

I didn't. Well, not as many I would like.

going to read random isos

my eyes on grogu though that bastard has tricked me in the past with my attempts to get reliable reads on him and if it weren't for the soup kill I would ask for a check on him

That's about a 3 on the scumeter sir.

Please give your weak leans.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:25 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am
Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways
I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.
He's still wolfy.

I'm just pressuring Justin.

Come pressure Sig, let's try to get them under some real pressure.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:27 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:11 am
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:54 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?
I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight
What do you mean by this? What is frozen and what record did I overwhelmingly need to straighten?
There is no hidden meaning, I'm saying that there's no point in "pressure" unless you're willing to let people contemplate their existence over L-1 which seems to be something (albeit, from my short existence here) that this site is unwilling to do for the sake of pressure... Therefore, there is no real pressure.

Please.. you're going to have to walk me through this a little bit... L-1 is when you need one more vote until hammer right? Why does existence need to be contemplated at that point I'm so confused. Everyone knows their own role so what is there to contemplate? Are you just lamenting about how people won't come together to start a wagon for "real pressure"?

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:27 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.

I admitted my previous read on the slot had a good chance of being flawed?
I think I did at least
It was a first-post read

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:27 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 3:18 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:54 pm Hey @Creature

Long time, no see.

Hey new players. I’m Jack. I’m unyeetable. I’ll troll and pretend not to hunt (or actually not hunt) until I see something shiny, which is hopefully a wolf.
I don't like the vibes of this post very much at all

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:28 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:25 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am
Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways
I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.
He's still wolfy.

I'm just pressuring Justin.
Come pressure Sig, let's try to get them under some real pressure.

Nah. Join me to get it to 4 votes on Justin.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:27 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:11 am
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:54 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:43 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?
I think people have deduced by this point that you're not interested in putting serious pressure, so I don't understand why bother at all? Or maybe Justin / Dana at the time were completely frozen and felt an overwhelming need to set the record straight
What do you mean by this? What is frozen and what record did I overwhelmingly need to straighten?
There is no hidden meaning, I'm saying that there's no point in "pressure" unless you're willing to let people contemplate their existence over L-1 which seems to be something (albeit, from my short existence here) that this site is unwilling to do for the sake of pressure... Therefore, there is no real pressure.
Please.. you're going to have to walk me through this a little bit... L-1 is when you need one more vote until hammer right? Why does existence need to be contemplated at that point I'm so confused. Everyone knows their own role so what is there to contemplate? Are you just lamenting about how people won't come together to start a wagon for "real pressure"?

He reckons that reactions to any wagon that isn't L-1 isn't going to be enough to expose wolfies. That's the "Contemplate Existence" thing is.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am**

Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:36 pm
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:32 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:55 pm why do people wanna kill axe and ender? I feel like I missed some pages or something
Axe has been agenda-y.

It's like a 3/10 on the scum ping scale but it's not completely nothing, which makes it one of the best cases around at this point
What's his agenda, and how has he been going about it?
Sounds like you're asking me to do ISO work I don't wanna do rn

Tomorrow though I do need to give some scumreads to keep this town from murdering obvious town like ******

You're the one making the claim, so yeah it's your burden of proof. Kinda odd you need to ISO the guy to give proof of the read you just gave on the guy.

The 2nd paragraph is scummy AF

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:27 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.
I admitted my previous read on the slot had a good chance of being flawed?
I think I did at least
It was a first-post read

Rapid-fire top 3 scum and town, if you had to pick 3 for each right this moment?

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:31 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:28 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:25 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am
Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:22 am Luckbox isn't wolfy anymore probably
Opening reads have a pretty decent chance of being wrong anyways
I don't get this, if Luckbox was wolfy before, then he is still wolfy, if he wasn't worlfy before, then he's not wolfy.
He's still wolfy.

I'm just pressuring Justin.
Come pressure Sig, let's try to get them under some real pressure.
Nah. Join me to get it to 4 votes on Justin.

Listen, I don't believe in the wagon to the same extent as sig (I don't actually see much reason to even scum read justin), but I'm nothing if not a man of compromise.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:31 am**

Let's actually kill Sig though.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:32 am**

But yeah, stack your votes onto Justin plz.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am Rapid-fire top 3 scum and town, if you had to pick 3 for each right this moment?

Havent read enough of the game to judge accurately

Luckbox Ender Creature are the three people that I've read and were moderately villagery

Wolves would just be a shot in the dark for me right now
Guillotine is, a thing, and I'm fine with letting them do their thing as long as they contribute (I haven't verified whether they have or have not yet)
Axehole is weird but I'm not sure if it's an alignment-thing or a site-thing
Sig at first glance seemed sort of powerwolfy but like, I definitely would not push that read at all without re-evalutaing

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:34 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:31 am Let's actually kill Sig though.

I'm not getting off Justin unless he actually provides the promised scumleans, and only then if I like him.

After that I'll have to consider who I want to kill the most. I'll say I was leaning townier on Sig for D1 so far, reminds me of the one game we've played together so far.

Wait, shit, now I've become a 1-game meta-reader. =P

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:34 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:33 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:29 am Rapid-fire top 3 scum and town, if you had to pick 3 for each right this moment?
Havent read enough of the game to judge accurately

Luckbox Ender Creature are the three people that I've read and were moderately villagery

Wolves would just be a shot in the dark for me right now
Guillotine is, a thing, and I'm fine with letting them do their thing as long as they contribute (I haven't verified whether they have or have not yet)
Axehole is weird but I'm not sure if it's an alignment-thing or a site-thing
Sig at first glance seemed sort of powerwolfy but like, I definitely would not push that read at all without re-evalutaing

I don't need accurate reads.

I just need your impressions.

I need your help for me to find the town in you.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:35 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:26 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:24 am tbh I was expecting to have good or stronger reads for reading the past 600-something posts

I didn't. Well, not as many I would like.

going to read random isos

my eyes on grogu though that bastard has tricked me in the past with my attempts to get reliable reads on him and if it weren't for the soup kill I would ask for a check on him
That's about a 3 on the scumeter sir.

Please give your weak leans.

You might want to check your tool. Sounds like it should be a 4.

Grogu suspicious
Dana town-ish
Justinrs town-ish
butter town-ish

that's about it for weak leans off the top of my head rn

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:37 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:44 pm So my rolecard says I'm a "blood bender". Is that good? I looked up info about it, and I think I'm evil :/

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:51 pm
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:44 pm So my rolecard says I'm a "blood bender". Is that good? I looked up info about it, and I think I'm evil :/
Roles are NAI according to Nook

Stop sharing dummy, infosec is important
Okay;)

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:29 pm
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:19 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:04 pm Hallokatt can be a wolf
^This.

HK came in super serious to break up a townlean. No bueno.

[VOTE: HK] aubergine
It was a garbage townlean tbh
Doesn't matter.

meh entrance, feels NAI for seanzie

kinda dislike him just not saying anything about luckbox here when saying " ^this "

like an active aversion to giving credit even though spicy reads in the early game can be useful for discussion

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:39 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:55 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:52 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:34 pm
sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:33 pm
Justinrs2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:53 pm Towncore
Justin
Ligma
Way to early to towncore someone, also you can't really town core yourself.
I can't tell if this is serious or not.
Yes?

We aren't even a full phase into the game making a town core at this point is counter productive and once you get a mafia member in town core it screws alot of stuff up.
Adding sig to my towncore based on this post.

@Seanzie was this a joke or not

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:30 am [VOTE: Justin] aubergine

Where those scumreads you promised bro?

Are you always this annoying or is this AI?

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am**

Oh yeah I do actually like Felicis a bit
Now that I've established some village reads let me see who they're voting

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:41 am**

Naviya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:40 am Oh yeah I do actually like Felicis a bit
Now that I've established some village reads let me see who they're voting

Just Justin then
That was anticlimactic

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