Scooby Doo: Monster Collective (GAME OVER- MAFIA WIN)

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

I... strongly disagree

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

I... strongly disagree

Is a nothing burger in nothing sauce.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Not sure what this is supposed to mean neon lol

You've played with me enough to know that's the point

Do I know this person from othe rmafia sites

[Chihiro]

Enforcing good play wins games.

But also I have built MY policies based on things I've seen people ignore that have constantly and consistently lost town games. So no. I policy to win games. I will continue to do it.

In voting me for policying you are policying me so...

I respect this but this will also bite you in the ass at some point i think.

As for your prior post about how people read you, that def comes from a town mindset. I don't exactly agree with point 2 but I also don't care cause I'm pretty certain your town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

On a quick review, I do agree on Neon. I'm a big vibe player and she seems quite different. Her posts are shorter and less enthusiastic (I guess that's a good way to describe it). Her posts are also a tad more cogent but with less actual substance.

So far only Kate provided me a reason to wolfread someone so I'll go there.

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

I may vote Dennis but not before someone provides me a good explanation as to why he's wolf, preferably pointing out he doesn't do that as town.

You know this isn't what my wolf game looks like

But this isn't what your town game looks like for sure. It's right in your signature, you are sort of exhausting to read. Not in a bad way but you're passionate and your posts are long and kind of firey and move from topic to topic. Can you explain at all why you seem so different?

No not really. I am playing how I always play.

I can explain why people should realize I'm not a wolf though.

See. What we have this game is 3 types of players. Well 4.

1 type are people town reading me but calling me stubborn and saying I do what I want. Which is accurate. Occasionally they also call me anti town lol.

2 type is people scum reading me for "focusing" on the 3P and voting for policy. These are things I do regularly this is ass.

3 type are people scum reading me because other people are scum reading me and they are just sheeping those reads instead of using their own brain. That's both an awful reason to scum read me and pretty not towny really

4 type are people scum reading me for some semblance of a meta read which are probably actually people with the best reason to scum read me but they are wrong so fuck it ig

Okay I lied I'm playing how I normally play but I'm frustrated.

I'm not frustrated at any player nor three sock account nor this game nor this set up nor how people are treating me in this game. I'm frustrated though.

Emotions are a fickle bitch. Part of the frustration is that when I'm frustrated I often can't figure out why and this is no different. I know Part of my problem is just being unable to read entire sections of this game because my fucking brain problem is acting up again.

Anyways frustration = not happy go memey beacon of positivity Neon. So sorry.

[Chihiro]

So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

Wtf are you town reading? I asked a host a question, literally anyone can do that. That post from me is NAI 100%.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Okay so; the crux of the slip starts here.

But, I’m confused since I’m like pretty sure the locations are tied to Indy monsters from the episodes you’re trying to argue they’re not?

You’re second post about it also backs up the idea that she knew monsters were town and y’all are just debating whether or not the location is randomized.

Actually at the time I knew I was monster, but I hadnt given my location a thorough look at. When I did it was easy to tell locations werent randomized, before that I kinda just assumed they were randomized.

Not sure what this is supposed to mean neon lol

You've played with me enough to know that's the point

Do I know this person from othe rmafia sites

Me?

[sig]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

[Jackofhearts2005]

yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Enforcing good play wins games.

But also I have built MY policies based on things I've seen people ignore that have constantly and consistently lost town games. So no. I policy to win games. I will continue to do it.

In voting me for policying you are policying me so...

I respect this but this will also bite you in the ass at some point i think.

As for your prior post about how people read you, that def comes from a town mindset. I don't exactly agree with point 2 but I also don't care cause I'm pretty certain your town.

I disagree. If I policy someone they are doing something that should be killed anyways.

Like... self voting. I find that self voters who are doing it outside of memes in rvs flip mafia at greater than 50% and I find that they use self voting to take pressure off themself which is against the spirit of the game.

I do not care if I kill you for self voting and you are town. You will be poe forever anyways and now I've cleared a poe slot to get the solve closer.

I'm stubborn though... so meh.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

Wtf are you town reading? I asked a host a question, literally anyone can do that. That post from me is NAI 100%.

This is actually towny though lol

[sig]

yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

This is some big brained 4D chess (though TS does seem to have a trend where if we lynch mafia day 1 we always loose to them lol)

[Jackofhearts2005]

As I've probably mentioned before, the mafia will probably want to keep discussion on Scraggy as much as possible. Providing it isn't one of their own behind the account.
I'm getting tired. Sleep time beckons.

Repeating the same points over, while still discussing Scraps...OK.





[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Semivalid. Probably comes from town Falcon but I’ve lately managed to be shit at reading Falcon. Of course, I blame Falcon for this.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

This... is an awful take

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

yeeting a wolf day one statistically helps wolves so we should yeet anyone trying to yeet a wolf atp

This... is an awful take

That I think is a joke?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyways I'm sorry to everyone that I'm being a bitch <3

I love you all. Even scrappy.

Not the real one... only the sock puppet. The real scrappy was the worst character ever created.

[CRichard]

General question, Someone(maybe Lucy, idr) mentioned that scrappy is using ChatGPT. I'm not super familiar with chatgpt and never would have known that myself. Do we think that scrappy chose to use ChatGPT themselves, or do we think that the host advised this? Has this happened in previous games?

Scrappy is likely being duel hatted the host is running any randomized comments while the player is posting the real stuff. This is usually done with socky accounts so players can’t pin down who’s behind it if they’re also in the game.

Like so and so is posting at the same time Scrappy is so they must be them

...I find this hard to believe. Hosts effectively playing the game is a yikes to me.

[sig]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

I don’t see what you think was wolfy about either post I also don’t see how Sean is within his town meta.

[Chihiro]

I'm stubborn though... so meh.

trust me ive noticed lol

[CRichard]

So I asked the scotty are we just voting for a location and not an elimination.

They said something that could imply otherwise

Not sure what that means but fuck

This is kinda townie sounding tbh

I don't get this read. Chihiro can be town, yet this feels NAI.

[DaughterOfOmega]

yo I'm busy for the rest of the night, but expect me to be here a lot tomorrow

[CRichard]

Also, what is this talk about sig making a slip?
FTR I don't trust so called slips, as they tend to be red herrings from experience.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

I don’t see what you think was wolfy about either post I also don’t see how Sean is within his town meta.

That's cool. I do though so...

[CRichard]

For context, a townie got mislunched offsite over a "slip".
If the only reason for sig being mafia is a slip, that isn't something I'm convinced by.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm stubborn though... so meh.

trust me ive noticed lol

Rude...

Jk I know what I am

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also, what is this talk about sig making a slip?
FTR I don't trust so called slips, as they tend to be red herrings from experience.

It's bad don't read into that. Sig is wolf for other reasons.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

For context, a townie got mislunched offsite over a "slip".
If the only reason for sig being mafia is a slip, that isn't something I'm convinced by.

They also didn't vote me when I did slip so I mean lol

[CRichard]

Honestly, I feel that if Jack is mafia, then Chihiro isn't mafia. The town read over an NAI post almost always originates from a mafia struggling with TMI and finding a non-TMI reason to "find" someone as town. It's almost never a read a mafia makes on their partner.

[CRichard]

As I've probably mentioned before, the mafia will probably want to keep discussion on Scraggy as much as possible. Providing it isn't one of their own behind the account.
I'm getting tired. Sleep time beckons.

Repeating the same points over, while still discussing Scraps...OK.





[VOTE: CR] aubergine

Semivalid. Probably comes from town Falcon but I’ve lately managed to be shit at reading Falcon. Of course, I blame Falcon for this.

And yet didn't vote me. How weird.
It feels that in the world Jack is mafia, that they TMIed me as town.

[sig]

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

You seem awfully certain on "this wolf team." Care to elaborate?

What I did was. I read the thread up to this point and I went wow Sig is town. (I don't think that anymore but whatever). Wow Dennis is town.

I know I'm town.

Seanzie is also town

Wow.

And than I made this post that says exactly that

Why too both the new read on me and the read on Sean

Because Seanzie is in Seanzie town meta

Because you posted the wolfiest post I've read this game

I don’t see what you think was wolfy about either post I also don’t see how Sean is within his town meta.

That's cool. I do though so...

I mean if you won’t give any reasoning imma ignore it since you literally pulled a 180

[CRichard]

[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
Voting in PoE.

[sig]

For context, a townie got mislunched offsite over a "slip".
If the only reason for sig being mafia is a slip, that isn't something I'm convinced by.

They also didn't vote me when I did slip so I mean lol

And is they me

[Chihiro]

Honestly, I feel that if Jack is mafia, then Chihiro isn't mafia. The town read over an NAI post almost always originates from a mafia struggling with TMI and finding a non-TMI reason to "find" someone as town. It's almost never a read a mafia makes on their partner.

I will roll with this cause honestly jack as yet to imrpess me anyways

[VOTE: JACKOFHEARTS2005] aubergine

[CRichard]

Also the way Jack agreed with Falcon on their vote on my slot, probably means Falcon is just town in Jack!Mafia worlds.
It wouldn't be the 1st time I've seen mafia encourage suspicion on a sus townie, and yet stays off wagon to avoid accountability for a mislunch.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.

[CRichard]

Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.

Overreaction? I wonder. Yet saying Falcon's vote on me is "semivalid" is tacit agreement with said vote.
Am I wrong?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.

Overreaction? I wonder. Yet saying Falcon's vote on me is "semivalid" is tacit agreement with said vote.
Am I wrong?

Yes. You are wrong.

The read was about Falcon, not you. I'd only vote for a player based on semivalid reasoning if I didn't have any other reason to scumread anyone else. So duh of course I didn't vote for you.

[CRichard]

Weird overreaction to me calling a push on CR "semivalid" but whatever I'm not really getting much of a read out of it.

Overreaction? I wonder. Yet saying Falcon's vote on me is "semivalid" is tacit agreement with said vote.
Am I wrong?

Yes. You are wrong.

The read was about Falcon, not you. I'd only vote for a player based on semivalid reasoning if I didn't have any other reason to scumread anyone else. So duh of course I didn't vote for you.

If I'm indeed wrong, it wouldn't be the 1st time and probably not the last.
Alright so you don't scum read my slot if I'm understanding this correctly.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Since I barely have any meta on players in this game I have no idea if sig being so focused on a 3rd party instead of mafia is town or mafia motivated. This goes without saying 3rd party hunting or going after 3rd party is almost always mafia motivated.

I haven't read the posts in question but it's on brand for Sig in general. I wouldn't take it to be alignment indicative.

Having actually read to this point, I have a very slight townread on Sig.

[falcon45ca]

Neon's take re: Scrappy...like, does she have a meta of "always go after 3Ps"? Her take feels myopic





We might be dealing with Freon, and that's an ignoble gas

Hmm...I wonder does the person who spent all of GoC saying "I really don't care if we kill mods quad or soup mafia both are anti town and need to die" would spend this game trying to kill a 3P who is anti town.

Very difficult question.

I'm 100% sure I never said anything even close to that in GoC, and there's a world of difference between advocating for Vks against anti-town 3P than using the DK on a possible pro-town 3P

[CRichard]

Geez this GoC game people keep talking about feels like the punchline to a joke I'm not in on.
Or the ending of a book everyone is talking about, yet I don't own said book.

[falcon45ca]

Def feels like a difference check between Wilgy & Kate

What does this mean?

Kate, my friend, the dif check that Falcon references is simply implying that there are two conditions upon us. One a condition of one of us being a wolf, and two a condition of us not being on the same team.

However, the fault with this thinking is that there's not nearly enough tension held by either you or I that would make this possible. Falcon, are we being silly again?

See, the problem with this take is that my take wasn't based off tension...but rather the lack of it.




You said you were a fan of Kate's posts...what stuck out to you specifically? Which of her reads/opinions did you agree with the most?

[JDizz10]

Roxy
pyxxy
falcon45ca

Chihiro
Lucy
JDizz10
Neon

Creature
sig
Kate
DaughterOfOmega
Seanzie
CRichard

DrWilgy
fingersplints
Dennis
dunya

What does this mean, please?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Anyways i think debating on what locations have monsters is silly because unless someone has n0 info we are just going to have to blindly pick a location.

If you make the assumption that locations are not randomly assigned to each monster, then you are wrong.

Each location corresponds to one respective monster (town)

If you believe that locations have been randomly assigned to each monster, then you are right.

Do you have reason to believe that the locations are randomly assigned?

Or more likely...you didn't have a reason to assume that monsters are associated with locations...I wonder why that would be........

I totes misread this post several times. Still townread Pyxxy. Maybe a little less but meh.

[JDizz10]

Creature - I get the feeling like you are trying harding a lil too much and it gives me a bad feeling like I got in Carto. Your posts read like you are on auto pilot.

What you pointed here makes me town.

I am way too stiffy as wolf. I can't go on auto pilot as wolf. I just post what I deem enough to be townread.

If I am overdoing things and posting reads endlessly like on an auto pilot then I am pretty much town who has nothing to hide.

I am pretty bad at hiding things as wolf and faking town fluidity at the same time.

What the fuck even is that read?

you telling me that it makes you town does not in fact make you town. I do not sort people on meta alone that would be like playing only half ass. I like to play with my whole ass. Right now I get baddie vibes from your posts I cannot help how I feel. It is only D 1 so plenty of time to prove your towniness to everyone.

Lmao play with your whole ass. I like you already

[JDizz10]

You guys just be glad you don’t know scrappy doo. I would happily erase him from my memory lol

woof woof

Oh god scrappy doo is the worst. Perhaps one of the most justifiably hated characters of all time

Splints is my ride or die this game idc how she flips, whay she does, who she kills.

She could claim mafia while being red checked and saying she was gonna lead a misvote on me and my hatred for scrappy will still burn brighter than all those things.


On a serious note, I 100% bet Scrabby is a third party role I’m thinking in like with the character from Rico’s Courage game awhile back. Basically a player posts as both themselves and scrabby.

Or if we wanna include movie verse then scrappy is a mafia member since in the first movie he was the main villain

Sig is mafia, gg.

Here.

This is very weak reasoning. And it’s actually so bad I’m now eyeing you for trying to start a new wagon

Imma go out on a limb here and say one of the wagons have a mafia member and Sean is covering but I need to look into it more before I fully commit

I don’t understand why pointing out that one of the Wagons “probably” had a mafia in needed to be pointed out. Seems kinda obvious that every wagon could “probably” have an mafia. Also saying “weak reasoning” while not giving an explanation why it’s weak or so bad is interesting as well…

[Jackofhearts2005]

Without actually going back and watching the episode or using a wiki, my location does appear to be related to my character. Weird that Pxy would say it's random. #weird

I'm saying the exact opposite and I'm accusing Chihiro of being a wolf for seeming to not know that locations are linked to monsters, because reading a town role pm would make it obvious that they are.

Yeah, this whole thing is just me and Chihiro not understanding what Pyxxy is initially saying because he words it poorly (lol sorry, bud).

I think this is t/t from this interaction alone. More sure on Pyxxy. So semistrong townread on Pyxxy and kinda a lot of weak reasons to scumread and townread Chihiro. Probably because I don't really know Chihiro.

Super useful shit, me.

[Seanzie]

Like please, just plow through Sig/Neon/Dennis and let's get another W in the books. Jay mentioned my winrate recently in a discord chat, and so I've been so pumped to keep it high, and this is an easy sweep.

Hilariously awful take.

Seanzie is town and also 0 for 3 on this wolf team lol

We'll see after I flip you.

[Seanzie]

You guys just be glad you don’t know scrappy doo. I would happily erase him from my memory lol

woof woof

Oh god scrappy doo is the worst. Perhaps one of the most justifiably hated characters of all time

Splints is my ride or die this game idc how she flips, whay she does, who she kills.

She could claim mafia while being red checked and saying she was gonna lead a misvote on me and my hatred for scrappy will still burn brighter than all those things.


On a serious note, I 100% bet Scrabby is a third party role I’m thinking in like with the character from Rico’s Courage game awhile back. Basically a player posts as both themselves and scrabby.

Or if we wanna include movie verse then scrappy is a mafia member since in the first movie he was the main villain

Sig is mafia, gg.

Here.

This is very weak reasoning. And it’s actually so bad I’m now eyeing you for trying to start a new wagon

Imma go out on a limb here and say one of the wagons have a mafia member and Sean is covering but I need to look into it more before I fully commit

I don’t understand why pointing out that one of the Wagons “probably” had a mafia in needed to be pointed out. Seems kinda obvious that every wagon could “probably” have an mafia. Also saying “weak reasoning” while not giving an explanation why it’s weak or so bad is interesting as well…

I kindly ask that you please get an avatar.