Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:17 pm
whether Prince J minded or not is beside the point imo.
i dont think its beside the point, it was between him and i, he is a friend of a friend of a friend, i knew that he's young-ish, similar to my age, i knew he'd be cool with it, and he seems to like me. u hate it, but we seem to like joking between ourselves like that. as u said - generational difference, i agree with that, so let us be
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:26 pm
by Roxy
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm[VOTE:
falcon] aubergine
i dont feel it in my gut that he will flip wolf but i suppose i'll vote with alison and zenon
why would you vote someone you do not feel is wolf?
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm
@zenon - I am sorry if anyone needs to *reset* their world view it would be you
My vote as of now will go to you or Tutuu
Why would I have to reset my world view
I know my alignment and I'm right about Tutuu the posting is so egregiously towny that I actually don't understand how anyone can sit here and try to push her in good faith
why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.
how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:17 pm
whether Prince J minded or not is beside the point imo.
i dont think its beside the point, it was between him and i, he is a friend of a friend of a friend, i knew that he's young-ish, similar to my age, i knew he'd be cool with it, and he seems to like me. u hate it, but we seem to like joking between ourselves like that. as u said - generational difference, i agree with that, so let us be
I wish that when you quoted me you wouldn't take out the context like you did here. You completely disregarded my reasons for not wanting it to happen.
Yes:
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:33 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Why are we still talking about something that is not game related and doesn't matter?
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:33 pm
by pyxxy
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:28 pm
I literally don't think D1 is S v S and have explicitly stated that
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm
@zenon - I am sorry if anyone needs to *reset* their world view it would be you
My vote as of now will go to you or Tutuu
Why would I have to reset my world view
I know my alignment and I'm right about Tutuu the posting is so egregiously towny that I actually don't understand how anyone can sit here and try to push her in good faith
why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.
how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
but I do not think you are town bc of your play yesterday actively trying to save a teammate. So Imma gonna push you, I am sorry.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm
..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
.......for.......legal.......reasons..............vice versa..............either rand..............is..............a town clear..............unless..............SvS..............which..............I.......have..............this bridge..............to..............sell you.......
ah, ok. Don’t know why this would be a town clear. Sounds…………..to…………..me like………..scum setting up……….sigh…….the……………eventual flip.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:59 pm
..........................................sigh
.......y'all suck..............wagon zenon and tutuu.....................thx
[VOTE:
Porscha] aubergine
Noted. Did not let it rand.
[VOTE:
pyxxy] aubergine
Nothing pyxxy has done in this game exudes town. Energy wise? Meh, gimmicky, AI. That end of day was pretty lackluster, but also comprises a good chunk of his posts it feels like, trying to latch onto zenon/tutuu. It didn’t seem like pyxxy really wanted Porscha to go over, but it also felt like he didn’t want to go over, as witnessed by his admittance that he would let it rand, then self pres. I think he’s probably the role blocker
"Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town."
But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.
Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.
I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing.
"Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying"
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm
@zenon - I am sorry if anyone needs to *reset* their world view it would be you
My vote as of now will go to you or Tutuu
Why would I have to reset my world view
I know my alignment and I'm right about Tutuu the posting is so egregiously towny that I actually don't understand how anyone can sit here and try to push her in good faith
why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.
how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
but I do not think you are town bc of your play yesterday actively trying to save a teammate. So Imma gonna push you, I am sorry.
Aside from one game. (Holes). Where I was very very actively not interested or invested at all.
Show me one time. That I have ever treated a teammate like Porscha.
Cause I can show you several examples of me doing this exact thing as town.
I'll wait. This ain't it and you have enough experience with me to know that. So are you doing this intentionally as wolf or just cause you are subconsciously annoyed I would push you as town.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm
..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
.......for.......legal.......reasons..............vice versa..............either rand..............is..............a town clear..............unless..............SvS..............which..............I.......have..............this bridge..............to..............sell you.......
ah, ok. Don’t know why this would be a town clear. Sounds…………..to…………..me like………..scum setting up……….sigh…….the……………eventual flip.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:59 pm
..........................................sigh
.......y'all suck..............wagon zenon and tutuu.....................thx
[VOTE:
Porscha] aubergine
Noted. Did not let it rand.
[VOTE:
pyxxy] aubergine
Nothing pyxxy has done in this game exudes town. Energy wise? Meh, gimmicky, AI. That end of day was pretty lackluster, but also comprises a good chunk of his posts it feels like, trying to latch onto zenon/tutuu. It didn’t seem like pyxxy really wanted Porscha to go over, but it also felt like he didn’t want to go over, as witnessed by his admittance that he would let it rand, then self pres. I think he’s probably the role blocker
"Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town."
But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.
Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.
I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing.
"Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying"
Roxy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 12:30 pm
@zenon - I am sorry if anyone needs to *reset* their world view it would be you
My vote as of now will go to you or Tutuu
Why would I have to reset my world view
I know my alignment and I'm right about Tutuu the posting is so egregiously towny that I actually don't understand how anyone can sit here and try to push her in good faith
why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.
how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
but I do not think you are town bc of your play yesterday actively trying to save a teammate. So Imma gonna push you, I am sorry.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm
..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
.......for.......legal.......reasons..............vice versa..............either rand..............is..............a town clear..............unless..............SvS..............which..............I.......have..............this bridge..............to..............sell you.......
ah, ok. Don’t know why this would be a town clear. Sounds…………..to…………..me like………..scum setting up……….sigh…….the……………eventual flip.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:59 pm
..........................................sigh
.......y'all suck..............wagon zenon and tutuu.....................thx
[VOTE:
Porscha] aubergine
Noted. Did not let it rand.
[VOTE:
pyxxy] aubergine
Nothing pyxxy has done in this game exudes town. Energy wise? Meh, gimmicky, AI. That end of day was pretty lackluster, but also comprises a good chunk of his posts it feels like, trying to latch onto zenon/tutuu. It didn’t seem like pyxxy really wanted Porscha to go over, but it also felt like he didn’t want to go over, as witnessed by his admittance that he would let it rand, then self pres. I think he’s probably the role blocker
"Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town."
But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.
Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.
I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing.
"Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying"
Let's talk about this game and the phenomena of context.
Okay. Pretty sure we released maf chat this game.
That mafia chat includes me openly admiring I just wasn't in the head space for mafia at the time and I should've subbed out but what it also includes is all the context you need for why this game is an outlier for me and not the game you should use to consistently try to paint my meta.
In this game. Mac who is the player I respect more than any other. Asked me and Robyn to vote as a block with him and hard defend him because we did that in a game once me him and Illwei and rolled town.
So I was put out of my comfort zone trying to do the play he wanted. However also because of how little I actually like wanted to be there I was also barely able to muster anything believable at all so it was a hard throw by me and I should've just subbed it
One day I will break my meta but I'm extremely uncomfortable doing it and last time this game was used against me I think it was by pyxxy to try to misexe me in a game so like lol
I know my alignment and I'm right about Tutuu the posting is so egregiously towny that I actually don't understand how anyone can sit here and try to push her in good faith
why would I reset my world view? I know my alignment and I helped elim a townie that others wanted to keep.
how can anyone sit here and try and push me in good faith?
Because you are wrong Roxy. You are trying to kill fucking townies Roxy. That's why m
you were wrong D 1 imo. Trying to actively save a baddie. You were wrong I am sorry but maybe take a reread of Day 1 would help your world view.
I do not know if you are Town or if TuTuu is town but you played against the town yesterday.
I didn't play against the fucking town. I played for my reads like I'm doing here. Don't tell me to go reread the game when you don't even have the right reads and are clogging this thread attacking townies and trying to push them.
but I do not think you are town bc of your play yesterday actively trying to save a teammate. So Imma gonna push you, I am sorry.
Tutuu is super obv and scotty is also less super obv but town kk
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:49 pm
by tutuu
pyxxy what do u think about me convincing alison to vote porscha while she was still operating under her old perceived meta and had her as town?
also pyxxy didnt you yourself not want to kill porscha and was looking for alternatives, only self-pressing at the end? can u blame me for not voting porscha, you didnt think shes mafia either, no? @pyxxy
im operating under the assumption that ur scumreading me for d1
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:50 pm
by pyxxy
Zenon wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:47 pm
Tutuu is super obv and scotty is also less super obv but town kk
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:49 pm
pyxxy what do u think about me convincing alison to vote porscha while she was still operating under her old perceived meta and had her as town?
also pyxxy didnt you yourself not want to kill porscha and was looking for alternatives, only self-pressing at the end? can u blame me for not voting porscha, you didnt think shes mafia either, no? @pyxxy
im operating under the assumption that ur scumreading me for d1
This isn't getting enough attention btw
I have no doubt that wolfs are pushing the Tutuu is sus narrative just not sure who is wolfy
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 2:57 pm
by pyxxy
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:49 pm
pyxxy what do u think about me convincing alison to vote porscha while she was still operating under her old perceived meta and had her as town?
also pyxxy didnt you yourself not want to kill porscha and was looking for alternatives, only self-pressing at the end? can u blame me for not voting porscha, you didnt think shes mafia either, no? @pyxxy
im operating under the assumption that ur scumreading me for d1
.......sometimes.......I.......get.......found..............by being wrong..............not right.......
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:54 pm
..............dear.......doc..............if..............porscha..............flips.......scum..............please..............save me T.T
.......for.......legal.......reasons..............vice versa..............either rand..............is..............a town clear..............unless..............SvS..............which..............I.......have..............this bridge..............to..............sell you.......
ah, ok. Don’t know why this would be a town clear. Sounds…………..to…………..me like………..scum setting up……….sigh…….the……………eventual flip.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:59 pm
..........................................sigh
.......y'all suck..............wagon zenon and tutuu.....................thx
[VOTE:
Porscha] aubergine
Noted. Did not let it rand.
[VOTE:
pyxxy] aubergine
Nothing pyxxy has done in this game exudes town. Energy wise? Meh, gimmicky, AI. That end of day was pretty lackluster, but also comprises a good chunk of his posts it feels like, trying to latch onto zenon/tutuu. It didn’t seem like pyxxy really wanted Porscha to go over, but it also felt like he didn’t want to go over, as witnessed by his admittance that he would let it rand, then self pres. I think he’s probably the role blocker
"Critical of zenon for emulating behavior exhibited in Holes Mafia where bad zenon defended a town. In this case, Porscha is not town."
But seriously I don't think I've ever seen wolf Mac play like this. He was disjointed in his reads in Mafia Misplay but he was aggressive and loud and trying to get Sabi deep.
Here he feels lost confused and disjointed. He feels low WiM but not wolfy.
I want to help Mac get his WiM back because I was kind of following along with his wagon structure posts and I know how stronk he can be and I think misexeing low WiM Mac d2 is game losing.
"Tinfoiling tutuu and zenon are partners, while ignoring the Porscha wagon, and apathetically ‘ok’ dying"
If we’re using Holes as an example of Zenon’s guilt, this is tonally a different game entirely. Yes, she defended her teammate there, but in the larger scope of posts, the way she went about the solve feels totally different. Here, she is organically solving.
Now, zenon can evolve playstyle, so I don’t even use either argument as a litmus test of guilt in this capacity. I just think tonally she feels different. Could be wrong, but I feel ok about her
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:49 pm
pyxxy what do u think about me convincing alison to vote porscha while she was still operating under her old perceived meta and had her as town?
also pyxxy didnt you yourself not want to kill porscha and was looking for alternatives, only self-pressing at the end? can u blame me for not voting porscha, you didnt think shes mafia either, no? @pyxxy
im operating under the assumption that ur scumreading me for d1
.......sometimes.......I.......get.......found..............by being wrong..............not right.......
Waiting for me like that meter maid waited for his clock to turn 2:59 so he could issue a ticket of JuStIcE at exactly 3p
Sorry, what are you waiting for exactly?
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:09 pm
by Scotty
Caught up on falcon’s Iso. Took 36 seconds.
Nothing there lends itself to town points. His biggest contribution was asking the question ‘if tutuu is so town, why is she not dead’? Which in actuality is a nothing-burger whataboutism.
I think Seanzie died because of his conviction that Porscha was bad. Full stop. He was just town. Other people can die later.
[VOTE:
falcon] aubergine
Because why not
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm
by Scotty
For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm[VOTE:
falcon] aubergine
i dont feel it in my gut that he will flip wolf but i suppose i'll vote with alison and zenon
why would you vote someone you do not feel is wolf?
Didn’t you vote someone you didn’t feel was wolf?
When?
Oh I just backchecked- my bad, you didn’t vote for Camilla, but were willing to, even though you didn’t think she was wolf.
In any case, reading through your iso- unless my calculations were correct- you voted for Porscha as the tying vote and tried to get a bunch of people to vote on wagons which is a real +town move. The ONLY reason you’d be bad in this capacity is if your partner pyxxy is the role blocker, which others have also deduced.
You should not be voted today.
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:48 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm
For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit
Scotty I fucking love you lol
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 4:49 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
The analogy made me die
Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia
Posted: Fri May 26, 2023 5:25 pm
by pyxxy
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm
For the record, I think the only way tutuu or Zenon are bad is if they’re both bad. Which is quite entirely possible, but not an avenue im even going to walk down because it’s got 4 houses and it’s about to be upgraded to a hotel and I can’t afford that shit
uwu.
uwu.