The Syndicate

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:43 pm Thank you. I see your points, and respect them. Yet I feel like keeping my vote on SVS

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:43 pm I like DarlingMonroe again.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:07 pm On that note, @DarlingMonroe:

If you find it impossible to fully catch up, because the thread has grown too large, then I will make the following suggestion. Don't. I still very much want you to make posts, but if time only allows you to choose between 1) trying and failing to catch up, or 2) just entering the thread and playing from the current page --> please choose #2. Fully catching up is not always necessary to play the game, and you may be better off just jumping in fresh.

If you do have time to fully catch up AND get involved before we run out of Daylight (only four hours), then go ahead.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:41 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:32 pm This game started in a moment when my free time doesn't really exist.
I would like to have a solid town read to sheep it.
Who should I sheep Jay?

My top town read is probably Bereft. Do you have any town reads, even if uncertain?

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:44 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:40 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:39 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 pm Are the Seanzie votes strickly due to inactivity?

If so, why Seanzie over RondoDimBuckle and ts account also with 0 post....?

rondo's better at the game, is the least offensive answer i think

and what about ts account?

that's a ladd alt who i invited

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 pm While I'm waxing nostalgic, and in a Ted Lasso game, a shout out to the OG Diamond Dog, in whose honor this smiley was created It's literally based on the actual human. I miss that FEB.

Thought of him while writing this game. Hope he is doing well! Good guy




That is all.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:01 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:24 am oh fuck, bereft said he’d specifically tr that kind of post, in his post about svs being town

blah, don’t tr it bereft

Oh I see.

Yeah no, I'd never tr that post coming from you. Advanced players get more advanced methods ... or sometimes not.

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:15 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:15 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:17 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:15 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:17 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:15 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:18 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:17 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:15 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:38 am cape if you are town u should appeal to me, you know my read on you is nice

yeah it was nice when you townread me and my entire wolf team as town last game

why do u think that was

why was it

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 am I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

i just found it a towny thing to highlight

so yes it is a pocket attempt

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 am I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:18 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:38 am scotty, why is lying scummy?

I think it’s contextual- in your case, you wanted to see ‘how I responded under pressure’ when I already had a healthy vote lead and was under pressure. That was a place that didn’t make sense for you be lying.

I think another pertinent question: why is lying towny?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:37 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

How many games you played with LC?

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:24 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:42 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:40 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:45 am I will murder a zero poster if I feel like it.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Hmm

I don't like this

I didn’t figure that one would be popular. But it’s a real, serious vote!

i will be hoenst

when i was throwing around votes, i thought about voting a 0 poster as it felt correct to me given game state at the time + i wasn't scumreading scotty at the time i was thinking this

why do u scumread scotty?

are you wolf again? back-to-back?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:34 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:17 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

This also just... doesn't read correctly to me

I will explain in more detail later as i go to bowling very soon + I am pretty tired at the same time

The read here on JJJ is really kind of feels like you are just discrediting any towniness that JJJ might have by just saying this

The second part of the post is a kind of mafia tell to where a player goes like "okay but why am i ur top town, you shouldn't have me as your top town, that would look really bad for you down the line tee hee" okay i am exaggerating and putting it in bad faith, but sometimes mafia just have the intrusive thought to question whatever top townread they get instead of letting it go and then whenever someone brings up an argument saying this, they just go "oh but i would just accept the townread if i was mafia guys"

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:38 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:14 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:54 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:47 am Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while

meh I can say the same thing about SVS tho too

Like I’m not even sure she made a read when she was weirded out by me in her recent post.

Ima figure her out

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

OKay but it is seriously Scotty, he isn't comfy at all and I am starting to sus him way more then SVS

The "ima figure her out" thing was worded questionably here IMO

Also I can't explain why but I don't really like the second sentence here about assuming stuff about SVS calling Scotty weird there

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:39 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:10 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing

???

I also just like found this jump to defense on Abigail to be weird. Like I assumed that comment didn't mean that at all

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:22 pm He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it

this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:52 pm I’ve turned around on Cape- even tho he doesn’t have a lot of posts, what posts he has made are actual reads. Obviously I would like him to expand on them, but he’s making definitive reads

Thunal on the surface looks fine with their reads, if not making reads that come off as half baked. And no one wants a half baked pie, except maybe the stray cat that hangs out on my patio after dark. He’ll eat anything.
Scumlean

the only thing u said about me was that my entrance was the most blendy and that hardly counts as a read that warrants you declaring you turned around on me.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:28 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:27 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:22 pm He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it

this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

In every D1, being blendy is an instant red flag for me. I expect town in most contexts to make declarative and bold reads.

Posting weird things is a quirk of mine. I’ve been called ‘awkward’ and ‘stilted’ and even ‘cringey’. Which is fine, people need to practice their adjectives. I can remember distinctly in both alignments where I was ‘caught’ as such. One I was very town. One I was very not town. So that is non alignment indicative.

In this case, I’m not really holding back on my thoughts, and I can’t help if you don’t agree with my conclusions

i could see it being towny in the "putting out content to kickstart the game" kind of sense, but to me, it also just reads as kinda a lame cop out read, like scum can have good openings

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:40 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:21 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm So out of the 13 active players, only 9 have voted.

Long Con, Michelle, Dr. Wilgy & LoRab are the players who have abstained so far.

Without reads I can vote using RNG, its god said Long Con is scum.

Yeah, Long Con being scum was so last game though.... this time around, not feeling his wolf energy.

Long Con was town in Severance so you couldn't be talking about that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:22 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:04 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:38 pm Someone tell me the cases for the lead wagons, I'm stuck in work hell and going to see the kids tomorrow so activity/reread time will be light today if at all.

Scotty/Thunal.

Clearly there's a wolf in the Scotty, Bereft, Cape90, Jay realm, so which of these is it?

Why did you choose these names? They seem random

Scotty Thunal were in the lead 3-2 so I inquired why.

Scotty plus their wagon makes up the final list.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:08 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:21 am wait fuck scotty might be town but i can’t explain this

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:22 am the reason is straight awful but it might be right

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am actually ignore me

Here's a big reason why I don't agree with the robyn sus btw. They're playing unfiltered imo, and have sequences like this that are a lot easier to actually think of than to fake all the steps as a wolf.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:25 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:23 am

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:14 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:01 am

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:53 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:44 amrobyn

if i had found u as town would i be a confident tr btw?

or do u just respect my wolfgame that much

my answer to this question would always be no so I am not sure why you are asking this

I do generally think your posts are good, but they haven't leapt out at me as really towny like Bereft's recently have honestly. I think around the point when you started questioning my thunal vote while also being on thunal yourself was pretty towny though, and yes all of those listed are in order.

some people would say yes

understandable, and what do you think about my constant lying so far?

Mostly NAI, felt okay about the lying to thunal thing because it felt bait-y

When did they lie to me?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:34 pm I don't think Scotty/Cape are teamed anymore btw, and even when I made the read I knew it was low probability. I just nailed a w/w pair from d1 distancing in my last town game so I got excited when I had the thought.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:20 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:03 pm @Thunal33, I had the same thought that Cape's quick flurry of anti-Scotty propaganda might be more about getting out of trouble than actually suspecting Scotty. However, he made some points I thought were legitimately compelling too.

I think subscribing to Thunal's logic is silly, like why would I not only feel the need to get pressure off myself but also bus at the same time? Like to me that's a pretty bad mafia play unless I was gonna play exactly like ilario or something from my mafia team of Severance that u hosted. But you also said you dont in like another post. Generally I am anti bus early on, like I would vaguely sus my maf partners verbally if they were sussing me and if the thread direction was really going that way, then i might succumb. Like I didnt have a good voting record in my recent scum game here.

I felt kinda strange about ur dynamic with me/Scotty and how hard you shifted into me all of the sudden being scum from your light town reads. Felt like you were building specifically scumreads off consensus

I think Cape straight up calling my logic silly is unpairing with Scotty. It's easier to be dismissive when you know it's wrong.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:55 pm

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:32 am Good morning!

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

That declaration is me feeling confident. Not sure what you mean

Putting 'can' between stars, I take it as not a solid statement.
Otoh if you can meta read Jay I am envious because I can't. Some hints will be appreciated!

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

That's a pocketing attempt perhaps

This felt a bit like going through the motions, especially the pocketing attempt.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:40 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:40 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:02 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:59 am

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:58 am okay serious question, did u enjoy playing mafia today? or was it more grindy than anything

I mostly enjoyed it. Day 1 is my favorite day of the game.

i like the late game where it comes down to calculation instead of observation and judgement calls. i think that’s why i also prefer the mafia alignment, i feel like it’s grindy and calculation based where i don’t have to be so confused

d1 is nice big i post a lot to imitate/fake influence which i don't have or want really

blah

assuming i’m town what could i do better here fypov?

Assuming you’re town, who would be your top vote atm? In my read back, I don’t really know who you suspect except me (in a fake case)

i don’t know, i’d kill a 0 poster like what jjj is doing and i’d actively choose to save you. it’s what i would do by simple game theory and i can send you an example if you want (although you convinced me against yeeting seanzie because he’d replace out in rondo’s game i believe, and i tried to save you there). i find it hard to make confident reads d1. so i will freely and actively sheep on d1. i do independently solve as you know but like with bereft and jjj here i feel outright redundant for the most part and all of the things i would do they’re beating me to. blah i’m finding it hard to play this game in a way that’s original and where my own voice is heard and seen. but i’m also relying on the fact people know i’m a very good wolf and can make up original in depth reads in hard gamestates on d1 to like “let me play like this”

also to your lying question, i lie frequently as town and scum, i understand why it looks wrong. but i don’t believe that blatantly adding excess pressure on a slot d1 is scummy if you mentally model for a player of my range

as i type this i essentially understand why you wolf read me completely. but the main issue with that is that i’m not limp scum, which is like the only thing that should give me space. i’m the opposite as most players here are familiar with and i’m surprised you like don’t see that? but i also can’t blame you, cause by an objective measurement i would suspect me rn if i was new to mafia

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:57 pm just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:54 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:51 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:48 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:08 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:21 am wait fuck scotty might be town but i can’t explain this

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:22 am the reason is straight awful but it might be right

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:28 am actually ignore me

Here's a big reason why I don't agree with the robyn sus btw. They're playing unfiltered imo, and have sequences like this that are a lot easier to actually think of than to fake all the steps as a wolf.

Eh. If we’re looking at filtered v unfiltered as an indicator of alignment, then sure. But I don’t think it’s that difficult to have a throughline as wolf

But of the posts you just quoted, Robyn, in summary, posted:
-vague town read for vague reasons
-secret reason
-nm, take it back because [reasons]

That series of posts literally said nothing. I still don’t know who Robyn suspects or why

nobody rn

read last post

also do you normally find abbie confidently town d1?

i do agree with you that those posts aren’t a good reason to tr me, especially when my conversation with jjj and bereft earlier i literally said i was playing filtered lol

i just can’t think of a single decent reason to tr me rn

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:58 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:57 pm just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

because i don't explicitly suspect you?????

i just haven't found you as town and that is scummy in and of itself

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:01 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:58 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:57 pm just given where you have claimed to be at in the game, why would you vote a 0 poster over me?

because i don't explicitly suspect you?????

i just haven't found you as town and that is scummy in and of itself

that still looks like it makes me voteable

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:00 pm Am I the only one seeing DM’s slip? Am I just looking into the tea leaves? Someone tell me I’m wrong here