The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:30 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:49 am I only say that because i have been fully under the impression they would know their teammates song. or have a really strong inclination. like even if there is a rule they can't straight up tell them what song they have submitted, they could be like "i really like x type of music" in wolf chat to give a strong hint kind of thing... idk

They are called crooked judges aren't they?

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:33 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:04 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 12:59 pmWhy?

I've been in a few walrus's w/ her, and it strikes me as something she'd sub...so does Cloud Cult, but Holy Holy just seems to be a bit more up her alley IMO.

Of course, watch me be so so wrong and she's silently raging
Sorry to be old, but important question:

What is a walrus?

It's a music submission kinda thing

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:40 pm**

wilgy hemhawing at:

Cloud Cult - Chemicals Collide
Voters: falcon45ca, staypositivefriend, LoRab

Holy Holy - Starting Line
Voters: Porscha, DrWilgy, Sheep, pyxxy

the bands demand honesty, wilgy

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:43 pm**

I'll be honest. I've never really questioned the Walrus.

Music is submitted. Music is discussed. Music is listened to in a group.

I just like chilling with my friends and listening to what they listen to when I can and never thought about it beyond that. Like why is it called a Walrus?

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:43 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol
coward

vote ur heart

No!

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:44 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:40 pm wilgy hemhawing at:

Cloud Cult - Chemicals Collide
Voters: falcon45ca, staypositivefriend, LoRab

Holy Holy - Starting Line
Voters: Porscha, DrWilgy, Sheep, pyxxy

the bands demand honesty, wilgy

I admit to honestly being afraid of crooked judges!

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:02 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol

Why wouldn't it count as criteria? The mafia has more info than we do. I would be shocked if they weren't allowed to talk about which submission is whose in BTSC. It wouldn't make sense from a game set up point of view.

I think, like with any vote in mafia, it makes sense to discuss it, share opinions of whose song is whose, and analyze votes after the fact.

Anything else I can't see as being best for the town.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:27 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:44 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:40 pm wilgy hemhawing at:

Cloud Cult - Chemicals Collide
Voters: falcon45ca, staypositivefriend, LoRab

Holy Holy - Starting Line
Voters: Porscha, DrWilgy, Sheep, pyxxy

the bands demand honesty, wilgy
I admit to honestly being afraid of crooked judges!

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:44 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol

I fully expect Maf to bus LC, and I'm curious who was the 4th vote for Holy Holy...cuz it was a 3/3 tie when I voted

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:29 pm**

Well, this is a close one tbh for me, no wonder the votes are so split, not a huge fan of either's vocals, I like the instrumentals on both.

I think I am leaning [VOTE: Holy Holy - Starting Line] aubergine here

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:45 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:23 am I prefer Cloud Cult's 'Chemicals Collide', but honestly it was 6.2/10 v 6.3/10

Alright, I've listened to them several times now, and I'm gonna say it's 7.2 v 7.3 now

I still prefer Cloud Cult, it's only marginal

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:49 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:23 am I prefer Cloud Cult's 'Chemicals Collide', but honestly it was 6.2/10 v 6.3/10
Alright, I've listened to them several times now, and I'm gonna say it's 7.2 v 7.3 now

I still prefer Cloud Cult, it's only marginal

can you help me understand your scale

what's a 7 for you that you've heard recently

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:54 pm**

Are people actually posting based on what song they like more?

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:55 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:45 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:23 am I prefer Cloud Cult's 'Chemicals Collide', but honestly it was 6.2/10 v 6.3/10
Alright, I've listened to them several times now, and I'm gonna say it's 7.2 v 7.3 now

I still prefer Cloud Cult, it's only marginal
can you help me understand your scale

what's a 7 for you that you've heard recently

A 7 is a song I'd listen to again, or even look up more music by the artist, possibly listen to a full album, but I am very unlikely to spend any money on the artist

A 6 I'll listen to fully, but likely will never hear again

5 & under I typically won't even finish

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:57 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:54 pm Are people actually posting based on what song they like more?

It's inherently in the nature of scoring two songs that are anonymously submitted, even if you aren't consciously aware of it

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:04 pm**

I happen to think the song I like more is also the person whomst I wish to have my vote. this is my ideal world

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:05 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:04 pm I happen to think the song I like more is also the person whomst I wish to have my vote. this is my ideal world

Who do you think submitted which song?

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:08 pm**

I like to believe LC submitted the first song and nutella the latter

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:11 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:08 pm I like to believe LC submitted the first song and nutella the latter

That's my thought as well, and I'm voting for the song I like the most, but I'd switch to vote out LC (assuming the songs are correct)

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:17 pm**

you're supposed to vote for the person you dont want to die lol

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:17 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:11 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:08 pm I like to believe LC submitted the first song and nutella the latter
That's my thought as well, and I'm voting for the song I like the most, but I'd switch to vote out LC (assuming the songs are correct)

like voting for LC's song saves him. not vice versa

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:18 pm**

wait sorry i'm a dumbass I thought you weren't already voting his song nvm

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:19 pm**

on hour 24 awake right now lol

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:19 pm**

I'm literally voting alongside 3 wolf leans and I dislike this

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:21 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:02 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol
Why wouldn't it count as criteria? The mafia has more info than we do. I would be shocked if they weren't allowed to talk about which submission is whose in BTSC. It wouldn't make sense from a game set up point of view.

I think, like with any vote in mafia, it makes sense to discuss it, share opinions of whose song is whose, and analyze votes after the fact.

Anything else I can't see as being best for the town.

It does count as criteria. That's the point of my statement on my concerns.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:21 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:19 pm I'm literally voting alongside 3 wolf leans and I dislike this

yeah I dont love voting with sheep and cape but i'm not gonna move unless like. something changes lmao

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm**

okay i am now going to attempt to catch up with everything i missed gl gl

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol

I fully expect Maf to bus LC, and I'm curious who was the 4th vote for Holy Holy...cuz it was a 3/3 tie when I voted

I mean, it's a possibility, but why would you "expect" it? Like what makes it more likely than not?

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm**

looks like long con is dying though so gl gl

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:24 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 3:54 pm Are people actually posting based on what song they like more?

Outside of who I'm voting alongside, I don't think there's much more to discuss is there? I can't tell who submitted what.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:25 pm**

miss "gl gl" spf has arrived

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:25 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 11:26 pm God, it's like my brain's that tree,
and spf are those little cookie elves.

this is such a good analogy

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:26 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:25 pm miss "gl gl" spf has arrived

gl gl

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:29 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm looks like long con is dying though so gl gl

Ew.

I don't know if I like this post. This is going out of the way to enable wifom with a voice too sure of a result.

"Is it tmi, idk"
"Is it anti tmi, idk"

Feels like a breadcrumb a wolf would drop for use later.

Come back to this post later if needed.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:31 pm**

it's not WIFOM as much as it is me observing the wagons and realizing that they are probably not going to change within the next hour and a half

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:31 pm**

i am pretty confident about which person is which bcuz i spend a lot of time in mafia-related music circles, it's not TMI

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:34 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:19 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:23 pm to be clear im not ~that confident about nutella/LC being unaligned but the way nutella has kinda anchored herself into the game by constantly pushing on LC and calling him wolfy kinda reads to me as a wolf who is trying to get him miseliminated more than partners doing a distancing play
but see like

I don't like you hedging here

your world view is Nutella scum, Long Con town. own it

hedging like this just feels like what you're arguing Nutella is doing, setting up a Long Con mischop, except in your case it's after a Nutella mischop

I do agree that Nutella and Long Con seem weirdly committed to being the two wagons of the day, I would even interpret it in your world view, if I didn't think that you're helping create TvT wagons

I also never said "wolves are sitting back" and that whole bit, I explicitly said that you feel like you're setting up TvT wagons...and look, here are you hedging on TvT wagons

from an outside POV i can understand why my treatment of long con would look hedgy and how this could fit within the framework of a wolf who wants to set up multiple miseliminations

in reality though i just dont find LC very towny or have any good reasons to call him town outside of my pre-flip association read of nutella being a wolf, which means that i'm not going to project confidence that i don't have

you're telling me to "own it" but it sounds more to me like you are telling me to lie about what i actually think lol

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:34 pm**

its true, she does

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:36 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:11 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:08 pm I like to believe LC submitted the first song and nutella the latter
That's my thought as well, and I'm voting for the song I like the most, but I'd switch to vote out LC (assuming the songs are correct)
like voting for LC's song saves him. not vice versa

Yeah, but he's going over, so I don't really care right now. If that changes, I'll change

Assuming

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:38 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:28 pm Now, I will admit, the feeling I get for voting in line with Pyx and Sheep is kinda icky.

As 'who I'm voting with' counts as any criteria, I may swap lol

I fully expect Maf to bus LC, and I'm curious who was the 4th vote for Holy Holy...cuz it was a 3/3 tie when I voted
I mean, it's a possibility, but why would you "expect" it? Like what makes it more likely than not?

He's so damn wolfy last RD, I think it more likely than not a teammate would bus

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:38 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:11 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:08 pm I like to believe LC submitted the first song and nutella the latter
That's my thought as well, and I'm voting for the song I like the most, but I'd switch to vote out LC (assuming the songs are correct)
like voting for LC's song saves him. not vice versa

Yeah, but he's going over, so I don't really care right now. If that changes, I'll change

Assuming

a single switch from winning wagon to losing wagon ties it. you should move if you're serious about it

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:39 pm**

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:00 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:18 am i looked at the first few pages earlier and thought porscha and cape were both town but then i got distracted lol

ill get fully caught up tomorrow

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:27 pm alright i'm caught up now

porscha seems like an obvious villager

falcon seems towny

wilgy seems towny

lorab/cape both seem towny to varying extents but less confident there

tsp idk

long con idk i wanna say he's towny for pushing on nutella but i havent really individually found his posts towny

dont have any real reasons to townread pyxy they seem kinda deflated to me

i thought sheep was towny at first but dont really think so anymore, his posts are W/E

think nutella is wolfy
So SPF, was there anything that made you waver on your TR on me rather then #502?

I do stuff like that sometimes if I am bored

i liked the fact that you pushed on nutella at a point when nobody else was but in hindsight i didnt feel like this was a good enough reason to keep you as a townread and i dont think youve been particularly towny outside of that

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:40 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:19 am I have a new strategy. We all ignore Long Con for the next 13 1/2 and a half hours or so. He’s just going to continue to spread seeds of chaos throughout the conversation. The more we respond, the more he’ll spew. You can think he’s guilty or not. But he’s definitely doing his best to distract us from discussing anything else. And, yeah, I’m also part of doing this. But it’s bad strategy to continue to goad him (other than possible off topic). Even if he is civ (which I very much doubt), we can engage with his ideas after the battle, should he be a contender (and I hope he is).

I, for one, is not going to answer LC’s FEBspewing. I’d rather think about what comes after this day and this night.

sorry, dude. You know I adore you. And also, say hi to BR!!

i think this post and lorab's general mindset around long con is really towny regardless of LC's alignment

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:43 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:31 pm i am pretty confident about which person is which bcuz i spend a lot of time in mafia-related music circles, it's not TMI

Still weird I had to prompt this and we weren't upfront about it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:43 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:52 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:50 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:25 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:17 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:15 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:57 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:47 pm

What makes you think that? I think Porscha's town as well.
porscha's sentiment that she had secret reasons to scumread robyn that she didn't feel like posting because she knew they would be ignored and invalidated felt like a real perspective to me - i think that wolves usually like their pushes to come off as more clean and logical, and so her push being based on something secret and her digging her heels in when she got pressured made it feel like a real pov
spf apologies but I think you are scum for this post
but why?
it reads as extremely post-facto, which is a phrase I just made up

it's a read based entirely in the past and with little risk to the present

it looks like work, but with the thread somewhat leaving Porscha alone and thus spewing her as town, along with Porscha's obvious solving, this is a lot of words to make a read look more thoughtful and developed than it actually is

it's not solving to post "Porscha town and uhhhhh the wagons look gr8, better flip both of them to be super sure there's not a wolf in there"
you know SPF hasn't been here day 1 right?
yeah but it was still a pretty pointless post to make
just stacking a tr onto a universally tr'd player post town flip with the other person in mention (robyn) is like. what's the point really

it was pointless for me to explain my townread on you when someone specifically asked me to>? ok lol

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:45 pm**

okay i'm not getting a lot out of catching up with the thread and my head isnt really in this game

im jusst gonna wait to see what long con flips and figure out my worldview from there

if long con town then im probably going to deathtunnel nutella

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:46 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:43 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:52 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:50 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 4:25 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:17 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:15 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:57 pm

porscha's sentiment that she had secret reasons to scumread robyn that she didn't feel like posting because she knew they would be ignored and invalidated felt like a real perspective to me - i think that wolves usually like their pushes to come off as more clean and logical, and so her push being based on something secret and her digging her heels in when she got pressured made it feel like a real pov
spf apologies but I think you are scum for this post
but why?
it reads as extremely post-facto, which is a phrase I just made up

it's a read based entirely in the past and with little risk to the present

it looks like work, but with the thread somewhat leaving Porscha alone and thus spewing her as town, along with Porscha's obvious solving, this is a lot of words to make a read look more thoughtful and developed than it actually is

it's not solving to post "Porscha town and uhhhhh the wagons look gr8, better flip both of them to be super sure there's not a wolf in there"
you know SPF hasn't been here day 1 right?
yeah but it was still a pretty pointless post to make
just stacking a tr onto a universally tr'd player post town flip with the other person in mention (robyn) is like. what's the point really
it was pointless for me to explain my townread on you when someone specifically asked me to>? ok lol

look...... I can't read

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:50 pm**

the cloud cult song is good - i like the usage of strings and folk instrumentation and the harmonies btwn the two singers mesh together really well

id rate it like a 7.8/10

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:52 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:03 pm @TonyStarkPrime get in here the fools are having pointless verbal disputes

ok

Posted: **Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:52 pm**

oh nice we get to talk

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