The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:32 pm**

Yeah I mean

Theres definitely a mafia in that trio

Probably best to flip mich first and figure it out from there

Although I don't think she's likely to be mafia claiming a fake red tbh

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:33 pm**

Mich what character are you claiming again?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:33 pm**

Yeah, this would be a pretty desperate gambit for scum, especially in a low energy phase of the game. I don't really see how scum would benefit from making something up like that. My guess is something weird happened with night actions.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:34 pm**

@Alison, @Oddmerta, please refresh my memory as to this busdriving claim?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:33 pm Mich what character are you claiming again?

I never flavour claimed

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm**

I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:36 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:32 pm Yeah I mean

Theres definitely a mafia in that trio

Probably best to flip mich first and figure it out from there

Although I don't think she's likely to be mafia claiming a fake red tbh

i don't think mich is scum, I think something messed with her night actions

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:37 pm**

I am Ben Schmidt, flip me and check

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:37 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have

I'm not sure if chopping Michelle is the go-to move here. Scum isn't in a desperate position in this game, and there's no real wagon going on right now. I really don't see why Michelle would just fakeclaim something like this if she's scum.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:34 pm @Alison, @Oddmerta, please refresh my memory as to this busdriving claim?

on night 2, oddmerta busdrove me and sloonei. he claimed this soon after day 3 started, and said that it was to try to get sloonei (who he read as scum) to eat a bullet in my place.

michelle targeted me and got a red check. since odd busdrove me and sloonei, it means that she got a red check on sloonei, who is flipped town. that tells me either michelle is lying for no reason at all or something wonky happened with the night actions.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have

Why is impossible?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have
Why is impossible?

because you're red checking a flipped town

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:39 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:38 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:34 pm @Alison, @Oddmerta, please refresh my memory as to this busdriving claim?
on night 2, oddmerta busdrove me and sloonei. he claimed this soon after day 3 started, and said that it was to try to get sloonei (who he read as scum) to eat a bullet in my place.

michelle targeted me and got a red check. since odd busdrove me and sloonei, it means that she got a red check on sloonei, who is flipped town. that tells me either michelle is lying for no reason at all or something wonky happened with the night actions.

I think Odd could be RBed

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:42 pm**

Anyway, i am going to bed. Good luck in chopping the town cop, it would be hilarious tbh

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:32 pm Yeah I mean

Theres definitely a mafia in that trio

Probably best to flip mich first and figure it out from there

Although I don't think she's likely to be mafia claiming a fake red tbh
i don't think mich is scum, I think something messed with her night actions

Such as?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm**

This silence is nagl

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm**

Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm**

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:47 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:35 pm I mean look

Were almost definitely gonna kill mich first

If she flips cop we'll figure out what went wrong

But she has a check it looks impossible for her to have

Why don't we solve her check, and go from there? If Alison flips town, it's an obvs Mich flip next.

Solve the claim by flipping Alison.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles

Not possible with the check on ted

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles

Nope, i got the correct result on Ted and he was killed because he suspected the troopers as not being all villagers, and also he was janitored to discredit and question my peek.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted

Ted was janitored tho?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted
Ted was janitored tho?

And killed at night. Think we can assume he was murdered by scum unless someone wants to claim it

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm**

Can Michelle just be a naive cop?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:50 pm**

Wait that wouldn't make sense

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:50 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted
Ted was janitored tho?
And killed at night. Think we can assume he was murdered by scum unless someone wants to claim it

There is 2 teams lol

It's not unreasonable for 1 scum team to believe the check then janitor Ted to prevent Michelle from being proven

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:51 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:50 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted
Ted was janitored tho?
And killed at night. Think we can assume he was murdered by scum unless someone wants to claim it
There is 2 teams lol

It's not unreasonable for 1 scum team to believe the check then janitor Ted to prevent Michelle from being proven

Oh

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm**

Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:59 pm**

I don't know what to make of all this.

- Alison and Sloonei switched and sloonei came up green.
- I don't think there's good reason for Mich to lie about this. No matter the role.

Is it possible the investigation was put on the bus driver or is that nonsense?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?

Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?

Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO

Have you been reading the same thread as me?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO

And your way sounds like a wolfy way to fast-track a town flip. I may be low-energy and confused out of my gourd, but I still wanna win the game.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO
Have you been reading the same thread as me?

Maybe?

How do you feel with Straw's suggestion we don't check Michele's red peek?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:15 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO
And your way sounds like a wolfy way to fast-track a town flip. I may be low-energy and confused out of my gourd, but I still wanna win the game.

It's a red peek.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:16 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pmHow do you feel with Straw's suggestion we don't check Michele's red peek?

I'm not saying we don't check Michelle's red peek. I'm saying let's not wagon someone based solely on a disparity without thinking about what possibly went down.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:16 pm**

we’re never killing michelle. she has zero reason to fake a red check

if we kill someone it should be alison but there’s zero reason to believe michelle’s check when odd already claimed to busdrive alison that night and we don’t even know if the check on ted was correct

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

to be clear falcon, michelle's red check isn't on me

she targeted me, which mean she targeted sloonei. she's raised the possibility that odd could be roleblocked, which is possible, but we haven't seen any evidence this is the case and odd was very much not a high-priority roleblock target n2.

I do not endorse blindly flipping mich if you exe me first. It seems more likely that a framer, faulty cop, or other issue is at play.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:17 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:15 pmIt's a red peek.

Ya been reading the thread? There are some potential complications.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:19 pm**

i genuinely don’t care about michelle’s check at all amd think michelle/alison could be v/v

the idea that we should kill both of them because there has to be a wolf between them or something is bananas when we already have a standing busdrive claim on alison the night she was checked

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm**

undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm Are we really debating whether we confirm Michele's red check on Alison by flipping Michele over Alison?
Yes, because there exists a real possibility they're both town.

Why are you suddenly so eager to kill someone and trying to dissuade discussion?
Sounds like a wolfy way to distract from a red check IMO
Have you been reading the same thread as me?
Maybe?

How do you feel with Straw's suggestion we don't check Michele's red peek?

The Sloonei-Alison bus drive switcharoo makes everything 10x more complicated. I honestly don't know how to go about this. First time I've seen something like this.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:21 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.

Do we have proof that it was Sloonei who you were swapped with? Is it possible he swapped you with someone else who is a wolf?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:23 pm**

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.
Do we have proof that it was Sloonei who you were swapped with? Is it possible he swapped you with someone else who is a wolf?

why on earth would wolf oddmerta swap me with one of his own buddies

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:24 pm**

The only time mich fakes the red is if her team is about to win, which seems unlikely

So either there's a framer, or odd got roleblocked

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:24 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:23 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm undeclared faulty cops that don't know they're faulty are bastard because it's a host lie (ie. the host is lying that you receive the target's alignment when really you receive something else). I will pretend that isn't a possibility and if it leads me down the wrong path then so be it. from my perspective even if odd is roleblocked mich still outed a red check on a townie so something else is at play here.

something like a framer could be possible, but it doesn't make sense to target me with a framer role that night. maybe an "insanifier" that messes up the night results of whoever they target.

the last option is that mich is lying but I don't really see that as plausible.
Do we have proof that it was Sloonei who you were swapped with? Is it possible he swapped you with someone else who is a wolf?
why on earth would wolf oddmerta swap me with one of his own buddies

Two wolf teams. Could've swapped you with someone he thought was on the other team.

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:25 pm**

Also a cop that seemingly gets red green checks is kinda weird for a multiball setup

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:26 pm**

@Alison, as the trooper, do you have any kind of proof of what Oddmerta did that night? Is there any reason to believe it was definitely Sloonei he swapped you with?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:26 pm**

Jesus fuckin Christ. Whatever happened to red checks without 9,000 different mech combinations?

Posted: **Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:32 pm**

Is it possible the check landed on Al Sama due to Sloonei's role?

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