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Re: Fargo Mafia [NIGHT 2]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:34 pm
by Hally
novaselinenever wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:12 pm
This is a true story. The events depicted took place at The Syndicate Forum in April 2021. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.

@AL_sama [???] has been killed.
[???]
@tedxtr [???] has been killed.
[???]
Someone attempted to kill [???], but failed.

@Sloonei [Ronald Reagan] has been killed.
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"Son, there's not a challenge on God's earth that can't be overcome by an American."
Ronald Reagan

[Passive] - If Reagan is killed at night, the scrambling of all the police agencies on the scene will cause a curfew the following night. No actions will be performed, and the night phase will simply be an intermission between the day phases. If his identity is public, this ability will be voided.

[Active] - Each night, Ronald may select a player to be his security detail. Any negative actions targeting him will be redirected to his security detail. This includes killing actions. If he selects a [Guilty] player twice in a row, he will be killed by them.

[Active] - Each day, Ronald may write a speech and have the host post it for them.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to Town

Day 3 starts.
You have 48 hours to decide on an elimination.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:35 pm
by Hally
it says specifically negative actions will be redirected. a cop check shouldn’t be a negative action so i don’t think it would be?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:36 pm
by Alison
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:26 pm @Alison, as the trooper, do you have any kind of proof of what Oddmerta did that night? Is there any reason to believe it was definitely Sloonei he swapped you with?
I don't have any way to prove what oddmerta did, I didn't give him an order that night so he was acting solo

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm
by Strawhenge
Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:42 pm
by Alison
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.
a check isn't a negative action

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:44 pm
by falcon45ca
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.
That's how you play Mafia on acid

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:44 pm
by Strawhenge
Alison wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:42 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:40 pm Oh holy shit, I think @staypositivefriend just cracked it wide open.

Sloonei chooses a wolf as his security detail.

Oddmerta swaps Sloonei with Alison.

Michelle checks Alison, which is really a check on Sloonei, which is really a check on whatever wolf he chose as security detail.

As fuck-bonkers as it is to say, this kinda makes sense.
a check isn't a negative action
God damn it.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:45 pm
by BoKnows
this game is hurting my brain

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:45 pm
by BoKnows
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm
by BoKnows
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm
by BoKnows
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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm
by Strawhenge
I don't think that image is meant to be, Bo.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:47 pm
by BoKnows
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:45 pm Image
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm Image
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:46 pm Image
we're really back to this? smh

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:50 pm
by Hally
is bus drive a negative action?

odd busdrives sloonei and alison

sloonei passes the busdrive onto al_sama so odd is busdriving alison and al_sama

michelle checks alison and gets a result on al_sama

bingo?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:53 pm
by KZA
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:50 pm is bus drive a negative action?

odd busdrives sloonei and alison

sloonei passes the busdrive onto al_sama so odd is busdriving alison and al_sama

michelle checks alison and gets a result on al_sama

bingo?
It's either this or faulty cop so I'm gonna accept this as canon for my own sanity

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:53 pm
by Hally
i’m going to assume that’s what happened unless someone tells me why that’s wrong

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:56 pm
by Alison
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:50 pm is bus drive a negative action?

odd busdrives sloonei and alison

sloonei passes the busdrive onto al_sama so odd is busdriving alison and al_sama

michelle checks alison and gets a result on al_sama

bingo?
probably? bus drive is a manipulative action, like a roleblock, and a roleblock would almost certainly be redirected

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:01 pm
by Strawhenge
Ho-kay. So. Here are the possibilities with the Michelle claim that she red-peeked Alison:

A. Alison is scum. Michelle's claim went through.

B. Michelle is lying. Michelle pulled this out of the air for whatever reason.

C. A weird mech chain. Sloonei picks wolf as security detail, Oddmerta tried to bus Sloonei but bussed the wolf instead, swapping with Alison. Michelle checks Alison, but gets results for the wolf instead.

D. Oddmerta is lying. For some reason. I don't know.

Which do we think is the most possible outcome, with everything we've seen in this game so far?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:02 pm
by Strawhenge
E. None of this is real and I'm fucking imagining this game and you're all a part of my Beautiful Mind.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:04 pm
by BoKnows
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:02 pm E. None of this is real and I'm fucking imagining this game and you're all a part of my Beautiful Mind.
Wake up.

The accident was a year ago.

For the love of God wake up.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:05 pm
by BoKnows
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:01 pm Ho-kay. So. Here are the possibilities with the Michelle claim that she red-peeked Alison:

A. Alison is scum. Michelle's claim went through.

B. Michelle is lying. Michelle pulled this out of the air for whatever reason.

C. A weird mech chain. Sloonei picks wolf as security detail, Oddmerta tried to bus Sloonei but bussed the wolf instead, swapping with Alison. Michelle checks Alison, but gets results for the wolf instead.

D. Oddmerta is lying. For some reason. I don't know.

Which do we think is the most possible outcome, with everything we've seen in this game so far?
I'm thinking C or D.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:07 pm
by BoKnows
1) What has Odd done to earn our trust?

2) Why would Odd lie about bus-driving people?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by Strawhenge
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:07 pm 1) What has Odd done to earn our trust?

2) Why would Odd lie about bus-driving people?
1) Well, he casts aspersions on people, doesn't elaborate, then bounces. There's that. :rolleyes:

2) Isn't busdriver a common scum power anyway, or am I misremembering that?

I dunno. Out of my multiple choice, I'm thinking along the lines of most likely C with a touch of B.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:17 pm
by KZA
Unless it's exactly Odd and Alison mafia (which it isnt) idk what you're going for

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:20 pm
by BoKnows
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:17 pm Unless it's exactly Odd and Alison mafia (which it isnt) idk what you're going for
Is it out of the realm of possibility that Alison is town and Odd is mafia?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:31 pm
by KZA
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:20 pm
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:17 pm Unless it's exactly Odd and Alison mafia (which it isnt) idk what you're going for
Is it out of the realm of possibility that Alison is town and Odd is mafia?
Uh yeah unless Alison was given a wolf's power and flavour as part of her role which makes 0 sense

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
by Oddmerta
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
by fingersplints
This is an unexpected development. I believe Michelle got a red check, but I don’t know why as I still think Alison is town. This games mechanics are just going over my head.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:41 pm
by Oddmerta
So Alison got red checked but that could be Sloonei mech. Alson is an unbreakable, unshakable town read

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:42 pm
by BoKnows
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation
You're losing me here.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:43 pm
by Strawhenge
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation
You're losing me here.
I think he's saying he picked me at random. :shrug:

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:45 pm
by Oddmerta
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:43 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation
You're losing me here.
I think he's saying he picked me at random. :shrug:
The dice told me to do it is a compelling reason

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:46 pm
by BoKnows
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:45 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:43 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation
You're losing me here.
I think he's saying he picked me at random. :shrug:
The dice told me to do it is a compelling reason
I don't understand your gameplan lol

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:47 pm
by Strawhenge
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:45 pm
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:43 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:42 pm
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm I would also like to here @Oddmerta elaborate on this major strawhenge development.
Strawhenge, rng is random number generation
You're losing me here.
I think he's saying he picked me at random. :shrug:
The dice told me to do it is a compelling reason
I mean, I guess that's technically fair.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:53 pm
by Oddmerta
If you checked Alison when I swapped her then you really checked Sloonei

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:59 pm
by KZA
Should we just kill JPIC because tracker is obviously Hanzee

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:01 pm
by Strawhenge
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:59 pm Should we just kill JPIC because tracker is obviously Hanzee
Gonna have to flesh this out for those of us who haven't seen the show.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:03 pm
by Oddmerta
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:55 am @Long Con @falcon45ca You guys think Esooa's claim is bogus?
So it comes down to do you believe in aliens, I believe Esooa about being a UFO

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:05 pm
by Oddmerta
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:01 pm
KZA wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:59 pm Should we just kill JPIC because tracker is obviously Hanzee
Gonna have to flesh this out for those of us who haven't seen the show.
Hanzee is a god

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:08 pm
by KZA
I was mostly kidding. One of the cop (town) characters could feasibly be a tracker. Too dangerous to bank on flavour lol.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm
by Long Con
Oddmerta claimed a busdrive before this all happened.

Is there any evidence that busdrive actually occurred?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm
by Oddmerta
Different wagon please, Alison is town.


Worlds with her and myself as maf don't work

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:14 pm
by Oddmerta
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm Oddmerta claimed a busdrive before this all happened.

Is there any evidence that busdrive actually occurred?
You'll have to flip me to find out

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:15 pm
by Long Con
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm Different wagon please, Alison is town.


Worlds with her and myself as maf don't work
Why don't those worlds work?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:15 pm
by Long Con
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:14 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:09 pm Oddmerta claimed a busdrive before this all happened.

Is there any evidence that busdrive actually occurred?
You'll have to flip me to find out
Honestly just looking for a yes or no dude. I don't remember if we had a "oh the busdrive explains why X happened".

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:28 pm
by Hally
apparently busdriving does not qualify as a negative action

weh

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:29 pm
by Long Con
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:28 pm apparently busdriving does not qualify as a negative action

weh
That's assuming Sloonei targeted a wolf though, right?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:30 pm
by Hally
Strawhenge wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:01 pm Ho-kay. So. Here are the possibilities with the Michelle claim that she red-peeked Alison:

A. Alison is scum. Michelle's claim went through.

B. Michelle is lying. Michelle pulled this out of the air for whatever reason.

C. A weird mech chain. Sloonei picks wolf as security detail, Oddmerta tried to bus Sloonei but bussed the wolf instead, swapping with Alison. Michelle checks Alison, but gets results for the wolf instead.

D. Oddmerta is lying. For some reason. I don't know.

Which do we think is the most possible outcome, with everything we've seen in this game so far?
option C is apparently actually impossible because busdriving is not classified as a negative action and thus wouldn’t be affected by sloonei’s ability

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:31 pm
by Strawhenge
I'm about to frustration-cry and confusion-cry, and I'm afraid what the clash of those two storm fronts is going to look like.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:32 pm
by Hally
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:29 pm
Hally wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:28 pm apparently busdriving does not qualify as a negative action

weh
That's assuming Sloonei targeted a wolf though, right?
no. he can redirect negative actions from himself onto anyone, not just a wolf